Giz,

I saw this post at GamblingForum, of which I am not a member. So, I will respond here.

QuoteYou can create any grouping and size that you want to. These pet groups or table layout groups all have the same characteristics. Once your focus is on the characteristics you can adjust your play to accommodate the form being discovered in real time. It's the next step.

Kimo Li is all bogged down in his magical groupings. It does not change the occurrence of characteristics in randomness. All the interesting things happen no matter what groups you select.

gizmotron2, Saturday at 2:02 PM
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Please do not make claims that are not true. I am not bogged down in my "magical groupings." You have no idea of what I do or how I play.
I do not post on forums discrediting any system, method, or ideas from fellow players. Your credibility will be further tarnished by making these statements.

Kimo Li

Here is what "KIMO LI'S simple way to read the favor side of wheel" all about.

Basic Number Distribution

European Wheel number distribution: Red and Black / High and Low


First Half: 32 15 19 04 21 02 25 17 34 06 27 13 36 11 30 08 23 10

High Red numbers and Low Black numbers:
19 21 23 25 27 30 32 34 36 (High Red)
02 04 06 08 10 11 13 15 17 (Low Black)

Second Half: 05 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 09 22 18 29 07 28 12 35 03 26

High Black numbers and Low Red numbers:
20 22 24 26 28 29 31 33 35 (High Black)
01 030 5 07 09 12 14 16 18 (Low Red)



American Wheel number distribution: Odd and Even / High and Low

First Half: 28 09 26 30 11 7 20 32 17 05 22 34 15 03 24 36 13 01

High Even numbers and Low Odd numbers
20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36 (High Even)
01 03 05 07 09 11 13 15 17 (Low Odd)

Second Half: 27 10 25 29 12 08 19 31 18 06 21 33 16 04 23 35 14 02

High Odd numbers and Low Even numbers
19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 (High Odd)
02 04 06 08 10 12 14 16 18 (Low Even)

Hi esoito,

Students, well at least students of mine, do not want to give testimonials unless they remain anonymous, because they are under a non-disclosure agreement. However, if you ask them to write to you privately, and give their testimonials, and not expose their identity, I am sure they would agree to give you the answers you seek about their experience in the school environment.

Perhaps, Gizmotron's students do not want to be exposed to the forum as well.

So, if you ask Gizmotron's students to write to you privately and post their experience, without giving away their identity, they may respond to you and you can post their comments.

Kimo Li

QuoteIn the above chart you can see a swarm of the zeros. Some times the zeros are very active and other times they seem to sleep for a long time.

That's what threw me off, 37 and 38. I factored in 21 and 22.
By the way, I use 37 and 38 to represent zeros in my analysis.

Great puzzle!

I won't post the code, out of respect.
I will post the spins and your special groupings.

29
6
27
1
12
30
9
24
11
14
6
6
Z
19
18
1
5
8
13
26
Z
32
Z
9
14
35
27
19
16
36
27
8
12
28
35
7
24
3
31
3
1
11
34
18
28


01   02   03      01   02   03
                  
01   03   05      01   03   09
02   04   06      02   04   10
09   07   17      05   07   13
10   08   18      06   08   14
13   11   19      17   11   19
14   12   20      18   12   20
25   15   21      21   15   25
26   16   22      22   16   26
27   23   31      27   23   33
28   24   32      28   24   34
35   29   33      31   29   35
36   30   34      32   30   36

Kimo Li

Hi Gizmotron,

I solved your code.
Would you like me to post it?

Kimo Li

Quote from: 3Nine on August 06, 2016, 05:40:08 PM
Figured what out?   No.  It's my love for the quads... 3, 9, 15, etc.

I see. Very clever.

Quote from: 3Nine on August 06, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
That's a nod, to you - do you see why?

You figured it out.

Thanks, good to know 999

Quote from: 3Nine on August 06, 2016, 03:02:04 PM
Seeing When, can only occur in the past.

How you limit the frequency of the miss, is perhaps the better question?

JG...by having a daily stop win and a set stop loss. Action is a killer. Discipline perpetuates survival.

If you sit there, trying to extract termites from a hole and you find that the "numbers" are not consistent, but continue to try without success, a lion will see that and the law of the jungle will prevail. Same results at a water hole, danger is always lurking. Proceed with caution, have your fill, and move on. If you sit there long enough, you will succumb to the law of the jungle. So what, you had to run away abruptly because a lion showed up. Get your fill later, perhaps the next day.

Quote from: Mike on August 05, 2016, 08:07:12 AM
Kimo,

So you're saying that your GPM is actually an AP method? I haven't read your books, but I've seen enough of your posts at various forums over the years which suggest that isn't the case. You admit that your books outline only a way of "mapping" the wheel, and that the GPM also provides a "language" with which to communicate and decipher ball movement. So we still have the question of how you select your bets. If it's a form of VB, then how can the bet selection be as subjective as it appears to be? The core principles of VB are not subjective.

Mapping the wheel, providing the means to effectively memorise it, and deciphering ball movements may all be valuable additions to the roulette player's arsenal, but they're not a substitute for bet selection (which is what this thread is about). When it actually comes to the time to select a bet, how does all the paraphernalia of GPM tell you how to proceed if it's not based on past spins? And if it's based on past spins, you're back in the fallacy.

It seems to me that you're trying to add an element of physics to GPM in order to give it an air of respectability, but in fact there's no real physics involved at all. It's basically a trending system, albeit a rather sophisticated one. A case of physics envy perhaps?

A chimpanzee is minding his own business, enjoying his spoils of his labor, and teaching the group how to hunt for termites. Along comes an anthropologist, quick to observe and note that the chimpanzee is using a twig as a tool to capture termites to eat.  Certainly, there must be a scientific reason behind the process of retrieving the termite. The twig must be flexible; it must be a certain length, and diameter, not to mention that the primate has an opposing thumb. Humans...

Regarding bet selection, GPM is in a class of its own. Schtum...

Quote from: Mike on August 04, 2016, 01:10:31 PM
You can profit from playing roulette but not the GAME of roulette. To make a profit you have to use physics (either bias or visual ballistics), and that usually involves doing some research on specific wheels and conditions. Not all wheels will yield a profit.

The dream of being able play ANY wheel at any time with the expectation of profit, using only past spins or patterns as guide to future spins, is just that: a fantasy.

The closer any given wheel is to the idealized game, the less chance you have of making a profit. And that rules out ALL systems based on guessing, obviously (and all bet selections are just guessing).

Ahhh... so there is a chance.

You assume my method does NOT involve physics.

I assure you. My method involves most of the scientific principles known to man. The layman does not need to know the blueprint behind my method. Every method has a core principle; for my method, it starts with mapping the wheel, the Global Pie Method (GPM). Why, because if do not have accurate reference points, you certainly cannot measure velocity, speed, or distance, nor can you recognize, identify, or pinpoint a location. GPM is used, not only as a map, but as a language to communicate and decipher ball movement.

How would someone, who uses the bias or visual ballistics, measure ball speed, velocity, or location, let alone communicate results? If the ball was released on number nine and landed on number 32 (double zero wheel), how would a bias or visual ballistics interpret the data?

A GPM player would know that the ball was released in section one, star two, number 9, and the ball landed in section five, star two, number 32. Data interpretation confirms that the ball is moving one section clockwise and is landing in the second position of that sector. How to use that information is a different story.

I have taken into account the complicated calculations of measuring where the ball will fall and designed my method so that the layman can simply follow a process and be able to bet with confidence that they will be in profit in the long run.

As I have stated in other forums, it's like driving a car. A layman can get into a car, start the engine, and drive to their hearts content. They do not need to know the physics or mechanics behind building the car, leave that to the specialist. In addition, I have also mapped the layout grid using the same principles used to map the wheel. As a result, the GPM player is able to identify, classify, and bet "non-traditional groups."

Bet selection, tracking, and money management are common terms, it's highly sophisticated; yet, the approach is based on common sense, no validation needed.

Apple and oranges, no comparison, I have never spoken for or against the visual ballistic approach. I simply do not care.

Logic, therefore, dictates that players cannot profit from playing roulette, end of story.

"Sometimes there just not enough rocks....," Forrest Gump

QuoteI came up with these on my own, but apparently, the automated air-ball machines offer it as a quick bet option.

"Final Bet (Finale) The Final Bet or Finale (from French) is made on the last digit of a number. For instance Finale Four means that you bet on the numbers 4, 14, 24 and 34. The bet on Final 1–6 requires 4 chips, while Final 7–9 gets along with just 3 chips."

Interesting, I wish they had it with American air-ball machines.

QuoteThey are either sincere but deluded because they lack an understanding of the correct methodology to test whether their results are significant (curve fitting, selective attention, etc), or they know perfectly well they have nothing but have vested interests (directly or indirectly, they're exploiting the ignorance of others).

I don't know which camp you fall into, but I suspect Kimo Li is in the latter.

In your defense, you cannot properly assess the concepts mentioned because your point of view comes from an ethnocentric point of view and values that you have been taught. I get it. Without this knowledge, you can only state what you know.  For that, you are correct. For others that know, their reality is a humble one.