Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 03, 2017, 09:14:15 AM
It must has a reason why it'll be overall winner!

I agree. But I don't see how using statistics will make VDW an overall winner.

Nick,

Neither roulette nor baccarat are 50:50 games. Your recent chart in this thread showed how you came out ahead over thousands of spins playing VDW, but it was playing no-zero roulette. Have you had similar results playing against the standard house edge or do you always test on a no-zero wheel? If the latter, your results will be misleading.  Your apparent edge is so small that it wouldn't overcome the edge when playing the standard game.

Mods,

This is getting ridiculous. Can Stephen and his proxies (symon_lucky, john_stemart and others) not be banned by i.p.? The guy is clearly deranged and desperate as can be seen from this pm which he sent me today.

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August 11, 2017, 10:51:20 am

"For what it's worth, I've looked at 4 live casino shoes (Black Orchid) and Stephens system 3.0 won every one...I KNOW that's not an exhaustive amount of research..but I can't say the same for a lot of the systems I've tried...

For those on the bench about deciding whether or not to get the book, I DON'T think it's a rip-off...he claims to have tested over 10k live shoes to get his bet selection, and it seems to be valid, at least to my simple mind and limited observation...

Been around doing this a long time, (I use a system that lets me win every shoe or at least 99% of them...please don't ask me what it is because it's my main moneymaker and until I make my million will NOT even consider sharing it) but Stephens 3.0 looks to be what he says it is...I know he's had a rough time on this board, but I believe he's sincere and using his system himself..."

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By the way, I have no intention of buying his book, whether from Amazon at $349 or by paypal for $25, but if anyone who has it sends me a copy I will simulate the system and post the results on the forum. I will also give a FAIR review on amazon. It was actually my intention to buy a copy of the book but then all this nonsense started and frankly I have interest in doing so any longer.

Thanks for the feedback, audionut. As you say, 4 shoes isn't much to go on, especially as I don't know how many bets per shoe you actually made, but it's better than nothing.

Just to reiterate, my complaint was not againt alrelax, but what I perceived to be one-sided moderation, which was subsequently acknowledged by at least one mod. I had no intention of endorsing Stephen's books.

Quote from: Chamzy on August 11, 2017, 02:22:34 AM
When I returned home, I checked his system against 43 full shoes I had collected results for in casinos. I was amazed at how much I could have won. When I read in the book that the house edge is shattered, he is correct, his system does in fact shatter the house edge.

Making a profit after playing 43 Shoes with just a few bets per shoe does NOT entitle you to conclude that the house edge is shattered. 

Quote from: audionut on August 11, 2017, 01:21:03 AM
I can say that Stephen honored his offer for a copy of book 3.0...

Have not had a chance to test it yet, looks interesting!

Thank you Stephen for following through!

He didn't honor it for me, but then I suppose I was deemed to be one of the "mob", even though I actually defended him against biased moderation.

I'd appreciate it if you could give us an HONEST review of the system when you get around to testing it. Thanks.

All I'm asking for is a little consistency. If you say no bet selection however complex is no better than betting on red, how do you know this?

If it's because the math says so then you also have to apply the math which says that no money management is ultimately better than a martingale, and that none of them gives a long term advantage. You can't pick and choose the math which suits your agenda; either the math is true or it isn't. The math says that NEITHER progressions NOR bet selections make any impression in a random game.

On the other hand, if it's because you have never found a bet selection which does better than betting on red, then I can say " Since you are aware of only old school failure bet selections, your presumptions are very narrow..."

Why should your denial that there is some as yet undiscovered winning bet selection be valid, and yet my denial that there is some as yet undiscovered progression be invalid when the same logic applies?

I'm not claiming that one or another is true. My position is that neither are possible in a random game, but you're applying double standards. 

You can apply the same logic to progressions too.

Making Money Management complex doesn't help in a random game

So has Stephen left? I assume that when you are no longer a sponsor you give up the right to advertise your wares on the forum. Is that correct?

That's actually a good point. Stephen should be careful about the claims he makes in his new book, or he might find himself in trouble. By the way, that wasn't meant as any kind of veiled threat. 

Quote from: esoito on July 25, 2017, 11:58:21 PM
Yep. All that and more on a gambling forum that in the wider scheme of things is basically no more than a pimple on the bum of life.

esoito,

You're right of course, this is "only" a gambling forum, nevertheless, rules is rules. Apparently the guy with the biggest wallet doesn't have to abide by them. Double standards just ain't cricket. 

Quote from: ADulay on July 25, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
You are receiving more FREE PUBLICITY on your book than you ever imagined and just can't grasp that yet. 

So, be very happy with your new found free advertising and take the few punches that come along with it. 

 

Stephen,

You clearly don't understand computer programming and how a programming language works. It's impossible to create what you call "biased" code because the language is completely transparent. The only way you can hide the logic of the code is to make it deliberately hard to read, but even then there can be no hidden bias. Ask esoito, he's a programmer.

In any case, you don't need to inspect the code, just the output or results. If the program generates a detailed report of every bet made together with the outcome of every hand (and you can supply the shoes to make sure they are not biased against the system, or use publicly available ones like the Wizard of Odds'), then you can do some random checks to make sure the system rules are coded correctly.

For what it's worth, I intend to code your system myself when your book is released. If the system performs as expected I will be the first to congratulate you and apologise for inflicting any stain on your character (as you seem to believe I have done, together with other members of "the mob", lol).

Quote from: Stephen Tabone on July 23, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
As for my next book 3.0 I have to go over the list of names again to check if any of those are those that had damaged me.

Hey, no publicity is bad publicity.