https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWKBBMGwWQ <<< This is an episode of Undercover Boss (43 minutes). The show is not bad, kind of funny watching the guy (Paul) deal roulette but this is my question...... The guy is trying to get players signed up for a RATING CARD.

At 27:40, the black lady says......M Life (or M Lite)? What does she say AND what is it? Does anybody know? Thanks.

Ken

Yes, it is short but the wording is spot on >> 

"If you stay too long at the casino, you make the transition from playing to gambling".

((Gambling is like a commando raid: the gambler must get in, do some damage and get out. Hanging around too long in the presence of superior forces can be fatal))

Ken

(Any examples will be for the 00 wheel). I apologize ahead of time if something similar to this has been posted over the last 15 years, I don't read it all. This is flat betting, 2 numbers, side by side on the wheel.

It helps a lot if your history board is working. This is quite basic, re-betting a SMALL section (2) of the wheel if temporarily hot. When starting off, look at the history board for the MOST CURRENT 2 numbers next to each other, NO GAP between them. Lets say its the 8/12. (not the 8/29)

We bet the 8/12 for a minimum of 15 spins. During those 15, keep an eye out for the next POSSIBLE bet. Two other numbers side by side but we do not include a new number with an old number........such as, the 19 and the 8.

Anyways, if no hit after 15, pick a new set of 2. You might have to wait a few spins but its kind of rare to sit around and wait long.

On the hand, lets say you get a hit during the 15 spins. Does not matter if its the first attempt or the 15th attempt........ you add 12 more spins to your total, still betting that 8/12.

We'll say the first 10 spins were no wins, you now get a hit. You have 5 spins left (from the 15), a win does NOT count towards your spin count. You add 12 with the 5, you now bet the 8/12 for the next 17 spins. After 17 spins, no hit? that's fine, drop the 8/12 and choose a different two. The 8/12 CAN be used again with future betting if it starts hitting again.

During those 17, it hits again.....you now add 9 more spins to your total. We are always subtracting 3 after a hit.......15, 12, 9, 6, 3, 0....DONE, 45 POSSIBLE total spins but a minimum of 15.

Do NOT switch the 2 numbers during your session. Ride it out until its time to switch pairs. This betting takes advantage of 2 side by side hitting a lot while limiting it to only 15 if it fails to hit again. I like this method a ton and no, I can not NAME methods very well (lol). Questions/comments? Try to be civil with your remarks, we are adults. Well, most of us.

Ken

(B&M only), Question.... Have you guys ever heard of being banned, temporarily? If so, under what conditions and for how long? Curious if any of you have witnessed this first hand. (No, I am not banned, lol)

Ken

This is a 46 min. video regarding Las Vegas (general) and casinos there (general), I found it kind of fun. Its hosted by Piers Morgan (I hate the guy, sorry). >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniZHvkEK4Q

Okay, I've been doing quite "well" lately playing a certain method. Last Monday, they threw 7 different dealers at me in two hours, just to piss me off.

My question/concern is this >> (00 wheel), I would PREFER to have the same dealer for hours and hours. However, what is your view on this.....

Lets say we lined up 190 DIFFERENT dealers in a row, they all get ONE spin (its pretend, play along). In addition, we'll say three different ball sizes. So, 190 dealers and the ball switches every spin. Should we get ROUGHLY THE SAME stats after 190 spins compared to one dealer doing all 190?

During those 190 different dealers, I ASSUME we'll still get a couple numbers that are very hot and a few numbers that are quite cold? (non-bias wheel BTW)

I know its an odd question but its still important to discuss (imo).

Ken

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 If a coin is tossed 3 times and all three tosses land on heads, the PROBABILTY (odds) of the next toss coming up heads is only 1 in 16.

The "CHANCE", on the other hand, never changes and is 50% on EVERY toss.
 
(Its all in the wording I guess)

Ken

Was playing a couple days ago........we have a max. payout of $3,500 on the inside.

A guy put $100 on the 2 and $100 on the 1-6 DS.

Granted, I don't see this too often. The dealer was confused and asked floor what to do? Dealer had to take off the DS bet and give it back (before the spin of course). I'm not sure I agree with this and here's why >> Lets say the 2 did hit, give the guy his 35 units and take the losing chip from the DS. Why?

Yep, what I thought (and was hoping) did happen, the 6 hit. Is it fair, now this guy gets nothing. They should keep the black chip on the DS, so he at least has 5 other numbers to maybe get a hit and its in the best interest of the casino. That DS is really only covering 5 numbers instead of 6 (with max bet on #2).

Any thoughts?

Ken

http://listverse.com/2010/01/24/10-gamblers-who-beat-the-casino/ << Not sure I like the title but its kind of cool. If this has been posted before, sorry.

Ken

(If links are a no no, delete this, that's fine).

If I'm repeating myself, ignore this, I'm talking to myself. After so much playing/testing, playing/testing etc....... I feel 100%, you have to have rotating bets.
Meaning, NOT sticking with the same numbers until "such-n-such" happens.

In my opinion, 1-3 consecutive spins of the same numbers (2-4 numbers max), if no hit, move on. You can keep the SAME reasons (style) for the next bets but different numbers and all flat betting.

This thread is not about WHAT or WHY to bet, its more about, how long to bet it. Also, I am not stating, don't bet those numbers again in the session, just saying, don't sit around and WAIT for your numbers to hit. Only my viewpoint fellas.

Ken

I have a few threads that I like to re-post every couple years because I find the answers interesting, this is one such topic.

In order to "create" a DECENT (not a H.G.) method, you can NOT think like the masses do, you MUST look at roulette differently. Be creative, almost like a painter before he/she hits the canvas.

If this is you.... we get paid 35:1 and there are 38 numbers (throws hands in the air),

"That's it, no point in playing. We can't win". << If this is you, you will NEVER be able to think outside the box, trust me, you are doomed and don't even know it. You can't ask me..... "Hey Ken, how can I also think outside the box"?

I can't answer you, it can not be taught (imo). A person either has it OR does not have it, no middle ground (imo).

So what do you think? Can thinking outside the box be taught? Keep in mind please, I NEVER said, thinking outside the box will bring you riches, that's a different thread for YOU to start if you choose so don't ruin MY thread please.

Ken

I'm bad at explaining things but I'll try to tell you what I'm looking for.

(00 wheel only)....... 2 numbers only please. I'm looking for any ideas regarding event betting AND it has to be something *EASY* to spot while looking at the history board. Something you can see in a couple SECONDS (nothing you would keep track of).

Whatever number just hit, then the NEXT number is either a win or no win.

Two examples are >> The 17 just hit, betting the two numbers in that street on the NEXT spin, 16 and 18. Another example >> The 29 just hit, betting the two neighbors on the NEXT spin, 12 and 25.

I need a third option (or even a 4th option) but like I said, it has to be seen in a couple of SECONDS. Also, no over lapping of ideas. Meaning >> The 18 just hit, bet the number before and after it, the 17 and 19. NOTHING like this because its too close of an idea regarding the two numbers in the same street. The 17 would be in TWO different betting styles, I don't want that.

If you have any thoughts, I'm all ears.

Thanks, Ken

http://news.msn.com/us/gambler-sues-says-he-lost-dollar500000-playing-drunk

As I was saying.....in a way, you really don't need "help" from other forum members, that's NOT a rip on anyone!!!

Lets say you never set foot in a casino and know nothing of the game. What do you need to get started? >>>


Watch YouTube videos on how to play, where to place bets etc., have a chart of what the payouts are.
Have notebooks, colored markers, pens, pencils, calculator. Have cut-outs (copies) of the layout and the wheel order of the numbers to practice on.

That's it, that's ALL YOU NEED. Your roulette career has just started. You will need to put in HUNDREDS of hours of trial & error (as I did). Its not that important to post your method, then ask.....hey Bob, do you think this might work?

Go find out for yourself. DISAPPOINTMENT IS INEVITABLE, GIVING UP IS OPTIONAL. 

Ken 

Very funny, well done >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_NspDWssIY

Can someone check something if you get a minute. See if the visuals (@DublinBet) are MATCHING up with audio.

Been having a computer problem lately and am wondering if the issue is on my end?

Thanks, Ken

(Correct section for posting methods ??)

(LoL) Hey, I suck at naming methods.

Let me say, if there are similar methods to this on the boards, sorry, I read very few other methods. Any examples will be on the 00 wheel but I will give the NUMBERS for both 0 and 00 wheels. We will bet 5 numbers every spin, all flat betting. This is one of FEW methods I play over 4 numbers.

Ever notice (same side of wheel) how many times in recent spins, we get the same *TYPE* of numbers? Meaning what Ken?

Same color, odd/even, high/low, same side of wheel. The most RECENT two that have hit, we bet on until its time to SWITCH again. That might be as quick as 1 spin or perhaps 10 spins?

I notice how often these groups hit in the last 10-12 spins but YES, perhaps they won't hit in the next 16 spins.  The groups you should mostly already know >>

0 AND 00 Wheel
---------

Reds >> 12 14 16 18

Reds >> 30 32 34 36

Reds >> 1 3 5 7 9

Reds >> 19 21 23 25 27
-----------------------------------

Blacks >> 11 13 15 17

Blacks >> 29 31 33 35

Blacks >> 2 4 6 8 10

Blacks >> 20 22 24 26 28


These are our MAIN groups but you notice FOUR of the groups only have 4 numbers, I insist on 5 so I added an extra number. These numbers WILL be same color and same side of wheel.

0 Wheel
----------

12 14 16 18 (1 7 9)
30 32 34 36 (21)....notice large GAP between 32 & 34.
11 13 15 17 (2 4)
29 31 33 35 (20 22 28)

00 Wheel
-----------

12 14 16 18 (19 21 23)
30 32 34 36 (3 5 7)
11 13 15 17 (20 22 24)
29 31 33 35 (4 6 eight)

As you see, there are more than one extra number to choose from (except that 21), we need to get it to 5 numbers bet. We choose the number that has hit recently on our history board. If it's a tie, choose one. If none of those have hit, choose one.

Also notice, those "extra' numbers are WITHIN the two outer numbers of our betting numbers.

EXAMPLE >> We're betting the 12 14 16 18. The two outer numbers are the 12 & 14. What other numbers are within those walls and same color? Yep..... 19 21 23.

Pick one but like I stated, try and choose one that has hit in RECENT SPINS. If a 0/00 hits?

You lost but re-bet the prior bet !!

EXAMPLE (00 wheel)

14 << just hit
0
21
7
33
26
36
19
34
00
18
18
2

What do we bet? The 19 21 23 25 27. Why? Because the 19 and 21 are the most recent hit in the SAME grouping.


EXAMPLE (00 wheel)

14 << just hit
0
21
7
33
33
26
36
19
4
00
18
18
2

What do we bet? The 29 31 33 35. Why? Yes, the 33 counts as TWICE, meaning most recent. We need a 5th number. I see the 4 has hit as well, we'll go with that.

Maybe the next spin is a 3. Time to switch, now betting the
1 3 5 7 9.

VERY IMPORTANT >> These "extra" numbers do not count as part of the original group.

Meaning >>

1 << just hit
35
28
8
21
30
20

The 8 is NOT part of the 35 grouping. Its only added for betting purposes. what's our bet here? (see the 20 & 28?) >>> The 20 22 24 26 28. Like I stated, I have observed MANY times "sames" and I try and take advantage of it.

Watch what you are doing, watch that history board carefully. You may have a lot of "sames" on the board (wins) but WATCH when it is time to switch.

EXAMPLE >>

10 << just hit
28
2
28
20
22
28
17
26
9
22
14
24... Quite a few wins but its time to SWITCH >> 2 4 6 8 10. Questions?

There are always risks involved with casino games, be smart guys !!

Ken

WOW >> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/02/Macau-casinos-hit-jackpot-with--45B-in-revenue

Wanted to know if anybody does this or not?........ Lets say you have aquired some stats at the table, past spins etc.

Its now time for a dealer change (shift is done). Do you START OVER with new stats? Completely forget about what you have jotted down.... HOT numbers etc.

If yes, how do you handle a dealer going on break (usually 20 minutes). Would you use the same stats for the relief dealer spinning or WAIT until the original dealer gets back?

If yes, it sure does suck if he/she is hitting your numbers and you have no chips on them. Myself, I have the shift schedules written down (they are a bit different from weekdays & weekends) and I usually plan on starting my play a little after the NEW dealer starts. How many people do that? (LoL)

Ken

Got a question fellas. What do you think is the best way to bet ONE number per spin (not the same number)...... not using a progression?

What I mean is, up or down a unit after "X" number of no hits...... then maybe up or down a unit after a win etc. What is the best approach to this? (BR is not an issue).

Ken

 http://www.freewebs.com/turbogenius/raindropscomments.htm << I don't understand our bets? I understand the analogy of raindrops, I get that. Can someone RE-WORD this? I'm sure it might be easier than I give it credit for.

THANKS, Ken

I found this by accident....these may or may not be my views >>

1
Do you manage your bankroll?
This question shouldn't be reserved for only the roulette players. This is an overarching gambling question that any player should ask themselves. Most of gambling is money management. The ability to weather the downs and remain solvent so that you can enjoy the ups is just as important as strategy or luck.
2 Do you make too many bets?
Some gamblers are fine with grinding out smaller pots to earn a living, others really just like the action. You have to know that if you are spreading your bets too thin, you are diluting your profit margins. In many cases, these extra bets are contradictory to others, ensuring a number of losses.
3 Are you too focused on one aspect of roulette?
You may be in a rut as it relates to your playing style. This isn't to imply that the universe is conspiring against you, but rather you may have become robotic in your playing style. Try mixing things up and broaden your horizons.
4 Do you take too much risk?
If you are always trying to chase the big pots, you will more than likely end up on the losing end. Getting paid for your risk is the key to any strategy, but having too much risk means that you have to be okay with losing much more often than winning.
5 Do you try different wheels?
Don't plant your feet at one table, be okay with moving around should you not have much luck at one wheel. Don't be shy, mingle.
6 Have you ever mixed up your betting style?
This is a lot like some of the other questions. Basically, learn to employ different tactics every once in a while. Play some hunches, see how things go.
7 Do you even enjoy roulette?
Do what you love, and the rest will come. The same holds true with gambling. If you don't actually enjoy a game, you are going to be able to suffer through the losses.
8 Do you play any other games?
Is roulette the only game you play? If so, try something else every once in a while. Variety is the spice of life.
9 Have you ever kept a daily log to know your actual results?
Are you sure you lose all of time? If you aren't keep the records, then maybe you are just a Debbie Downer and think you lose more than you do.
10 Should you consider a different game?
Perhaps you really are just unlucky at roulette. Don't be afraid to walk away from something that isn't giving you a payoff.

I have two pieces of advice, mainly for the rookie players >>

A) When you are testing (or playing), please know the difference......... good results vs. bad luck. (or bad results vs. good luck, same thing).

If you are testing an idea and it is failing after 150 spins, so what, your sample size is way too small. Keep on testing and see if that is the NORM or if those losses are simply temporary !!

If it becomes the NORM for that idea/method, kick it to the side and never mess with it again. Same thing if you have a bunch of wins early and often but still, too small of a sample size. Don't get too happy or sad after only 150 spins.

B) The simple truth...... lets say you are playing and you are up $200. That $200 might be a big thing for you, I understand that.

It is a FACT, if you walk out that casino door, you will have a $200 PROFIT for that day....vs........ if you stay and continue on, you have now been downgraded to >> it's a POSSIBILITY you might leave with a profit. I know this sounds like common sense but for too many casino patrons, it has to be pounded into their heads.

Ken

Too funny, have to post it. With Roulette Evolution here, there are 8 seats. I see this once in awhile..... a guy is having a bad day playing so he SWITCHES seats, he feels his luck might change. WTF?

I would even ask him/her (for all I know, maybe his terminal is not working correctly) but he does state...... "I'm switching, this seat is bad luck".

Pure comedy.

Ken