Insult my mother, sisters and brother on this thread. It'll stay up, you have my word.

Ken

The days I win (knock on wood), I'll think of you theflaw. You can't piss me off (at least today sir).

I feel too good. Have a great day/night.

Ken

Yep, for this method its 2 numbers!!

Ken

Guess what theflaw? I have the OPTION of deleting your post but will not. I'm in too good a mood. Not even YOU can upset me.

Ken

Guys, I got this s**t figured out (not beat) and I'm giddy like a little girl. (lol)

Its all in HOT NUMBERS !!!!!

Trust me 100% on this. I know Turbo would even agree. You already know I no longer post DETAILS but at least read this......

Do as I did. Come up with at least 20 DIFFERENT versions of rules for your method for hot number play. One by one by one, eliminate what does not work. Yes, it will take a long long long long time but put a price on your future please. Test all 20 of your versions over *MANY* *MANY* spins. I did all mine, spin by spin.

So far I have not lost once at the casino and have not lost once at C. Casino (testing)....and I don't mean over four visits (lol).

The biggest keys....how many hot numbers bet (not too many), for how long do you bet them, what might of been WARM is now "hot", what WAS hot is no longer a factor, flat betting no progressions, the definition of short term must always stay constant, keep an eye on ball speed, ball size, wheel speed etc.

Figure all of this (as I did) into at least 20 DIFFERENT versions. Slowly narrow down what does NOT work. Forget your columns and GUT and KTF and progressions etc etc etc etc etc.

Once every six months or so, I see a new thread from someone...getting CLOSER to this and POOF, its gone. No more interest. (sad)

Figure out HOT numbers guys...IT'S THE *ONLY* WAY !!!!!!!!!!!

Ken

I saw a pic and read a great article a couple years ago, I wish I had bookmarked it.

This is for an ACTUAL CASINO with wheel (no air ball as far as I know?)

*EVERY* person here, myself included, AP included could get screwed big time. An idea floating around for a new type of wheel, I saw the sketching designs.

Nothing electric with this/no air bursts etc. >> Every X number of spins (10-25 if I recall?), the outer ring of the numbers would be rotated. It could be clockwise OR counter.

Meaning, pit boss or floor (no dealer involved) would move the POCKETS, the numbers stay in the same spot, its hard to describe. We'll take the 12 as example.
Pit moves the ring (pockets), ALL pockets get rotated and the 12 might now be where the 17 pocket was. (lol)

No lie guys. The ring gets lifted up maybe a half inch, then rotated. Pit can move it where ever he/she feels like it. It might move 18 positions, could move 3 positions?

The reason for this (I assume?)....real good AP guys or very hot numbers, guys with a GREAT method etc. So now, are the pockets HOT or the numbers?? it's a very fast adjustment, I doubt highly you could watch/remember where the pockets WERE. Coming to a casino near you? I f**kin hope not or I'm done.

Ken

None of them, don't get suckered. An actual B&M or don't play at all (imo).

Ken

If something in roulette is GOOD (playing one number), there is always an opposite, there has to be. The opposite is....playing MANY numbers.
As I have said 400 times in the past, stop with SO MANY numbers bet (imo). 2-4 !!!!!!!!!!

Ken

    I'm not the best at wording things but I'll give it a shot. Playable at a REAL casino? (no air ball)

    Lots of talk at other boards regarding "great" methods. Over the years, my definition is slowly becoming part of the minority, not just yet but its getting there. The trend seems to be these "great" methods played at HOME, playing *MANY* numbers, with a progression, usually RNG, keep track of the trot (lol), use the latest/greatest software and of course your bot. (I could make a song out of all that)

    Where have the REAL MEN (and you ladies) gone in regards to actually going to a B&M casino...study the dealer a bit, watch the ball a bit (I never play at a table with the little beebee ball), use no progressions, a smart BR and have a VERY DECENT bet selection? Where have these threads/posts/ideas/members gone to?

    This is NOT todays roulette message boards, which is unfortunate. I'm speaking in general terms mind you, there are few exceptions. The old GG and VIP (and even RF in the EARLY stages) were *NOTHING* like it is now.

    The best of the best (imo) don't post any more (can't say I blame them) but I refuse to believe they have QUIT playing the game. Some maybe but certainly not all. The new board leaders (cough) are so far out of their element, they have NO CLUE what a DECENT method even looks like. KTF is a joke. GUT is a joke but because the members are so green, they don't see it.

    Some will say, the bottom line is your net profit. Really?

    Meaning, take one of these goofy home systems.....we'll say Joe has played it and has netted $400 for the day. Bob goes to a casino and grinds it out, nets $300 for the day. I'm sorry but the $300 is more impressive and that's not counting Bob has to drive to and from the nearest casino.

    Also, many of these home players (cough) are really only testing/practicing these systems, laying very little of their hard earned money on it. This is a holy grail, that's a holy grail, this is a holy grail...but in the end, nothing but hot-air. Sell everything you own, go get some loans and go to a REAL casino with your HG(s) and make thousands and thousands weekly !!!

    You can't have it BOTH ways. Talking s**t but risking very little. Real men get out there, grind & hustle.

    They don't wait for more "applauds", chase the smarter guys off boards and sit around patting each other on the backs. Rookie players do that, not men.

Ken

Quote from: TheLaw on March 16, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
The major problem with advantage play is that the casino can always stop bets as soon as the ball is released by the croupier........killing any AP strategy from my understanding.

However, combining something like sector play with other methods (like GUT) could produce some interesting results........as long as the player can handle the work-load.

It can be worse than that. In some casinos, no more bets is called BEFORE the ball is spun.

Ken

I liked the newer look.

Ken

Real simple question/point. How do you know those numbers ARE from the casino(s)? If they are RNG, I'm not saying the book isn't useful. Me personally, I would NOT claim.....hey, these numbers are great, straight from the casino, all my testing will be casino accurate!

Teach me, maybe the numbers are from the casino? What is the proof?

Ken

"Denzie???
Where art thou? >> He's currently making a chart from testing a 386 step for a Marty on the columns. If it works on paper......

You forgot 3 numbers and I don't use that G word. Only rookies use those terms.

Ken

I don't care who you are, a nobody in my world.

Ken