This is PART of the reason why I try and create easy methods >>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor AND http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/occam.html

Ken

This "hold" subject is so damn interesting to me >> http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/nv_table_hold.pdf

Ken

I worked on this years ago and got too busy to complete it. It's a TWO number method, flat betting please.

The only real way this tanks (in the short term) is if a column sleeps for a long time.

We will be using the 6 standard double streets. Yes I know there are more than 6 (like the 16-21) but we'll use the 1-6 etc.

Your bet can be as short as two spins before switching OR perhaps 12 spins before switching, I've seen it all. Our goal is to CONNECT the left side of the layout with the right side WITHIN a double street.

All our bets will be north/south. EXAMPLE being >> 7/10 or 21/24 or 32/35 etc.

Never across >> 17/18 etc. I find that a few different numbers within a double street hit in a period under 17 spins (profit).

Lets get started ...... You will have to have a way of CONSTANTLY crossing off numbers, then perhaps a few spins later, you'll need those same numbers again NOT crossed off so it is a bit of a challenge.

This is one of FEW methods I play where I do NOT use the history board numbers.

Use NO past numbers from the board.

12 hits, cross off 9/12.
31 hits, cross off 31/34.
0 hits, cross off nothing.
4 hits, cross off 1/4.
27 hits, cross off 27/30.
9 hits, its already crossed off.
10 hits, cross off 7/10......its now time to bet. We bet the 8/11 AND all crossed off numbers are NOW UNcrossed off.  We are trying to CONNECT the left side with the right side within that DS.


We continue betting the 8/11 until there is a new bet. Maybe the next two numbers are the....25 and 30. Its now time to bet the 26/29, all previous crossed off numbers are NOW UNcrossed off etc. If a 0/00 hits, bet the numbers you were just on. After a win, *NOTHING* is crossed off, we start fresh. Do not use numbers from the history board. Cross off future numbers but it does NOT take long before its betting time again. Its around 4-7 spins. Repeat process.

I also like this......lets say you can afford betting $5 and $5 but $10 and $10 is a bit too much for you. Bet $15 on the split, that's the beauty of the split bet.

So make sure and pay attention when its time to switch bets AND UNcross numbers after a switch or a win. This method works great if you don't mess up. Questions?

Ken

WOW !!!!!!!!!

I just got done re-typing this and am in this section to post it and I see this.

That is STRANGE. Anyways, I posted it again.

Ken

Hello Ronjo.

Very nice, another "old school" thinker on site. Welcome my friend.

Ken

Very interesting, I'll be book marking this page for future study. In a way, I (we) kind of already know this info but could not really do the math or know the lingo of it.

"What the ACTUAL take is for roulette".......Hmmm

Ken

Hmmm, interesting, thanks. So the players *CREATE* the hold (held).

If we all left the table while up even at 2% of our BR, the hold (held) would be quite small.

Ken

Sorry for another post, trying to take this in and watch Packer game. So the 21% is not necessarily me, correct? Its all 00 roulette players as a whole?

I'm trying to grasp this. So lets say in a 24 hour period at one 00 table, the buy-ins are 20K in TOTAL. 5.26% is the minimum but up to (around) 21%?

Ken

Hold – Refers to the amount the casino keeps as net gaming revenue. It is calculated by "Total in – amount paid out = hold." Typically, this is referred to in percentages. <<< Yeah, I also looked it up and am lost as hell.

So if I buy in for 1K, this means what?

Ken

Great post Vic.

"The hold is the average percentage of the money originally brought to the table that the player loses before he leaves—the actual "win" amount for the casino" >>> Can you be more specific? Its bad enough I'm battling 5.26%, now I'm up against 21%? 

Ken

So as usual, Ken gets into a heated discussion with casino staff.

Which is better (or neither) >>> You have 5 $1 chips. Betting all 5 on the 0,00,1,2,3 (pays 6:1) OR $1 each on the 0 00 1 2 3?

I ask floor/pit questions ALL THE TIME regarding the game, just to "test them", I guess I'm bored at times (lol). Was there on Friday, I asked floor what the H.A. is for 00 roulette (I play stupid), he said around 19%. WTF?

Ken

Do you guys see any difference between DUE and COLD?

Ken

(Regarding roulette)........ You show some interest in roulette but know little and want to ask some questions and get involved. You have not registered/posted at ANY of the roulette boards in, I'll say the last 8 years.

You are 100% NEW, not recycled through the system. Don't get me wrong, a person is not breaking any type of law using a different user name. I guess I'm a bit old school in regards to "why hide"?

Having old school type of thinking is also not a crime. I was playing on Saturday and the dealer got on my case, insulting the s**t out of me. I use a pen and small notebook and he said...... "this isn't the 80s, we have smart phones now".

I asked this PUNK dealer if its ok I use my smart phone at the table? He said nothing because he knows the answer. (I'm really off topic now)....... Not many of you follow Wisconsin news but sometime SOON, our governor will announce if a new casino will be built here in Kenosha. (its halfway between Milw. and Chicago).

If it goes through, Potawatomi will lose a ton of yearly revenue. The dealers and floor have been quite RUDE to the players for YEARS because they are the only casino around but trust me, that s**t will change. We have dealers and floor that straight up LAUGH at you for losing. They'll laugh in your face, no lie. Okay, my Sunday rant is over...... GO PACKERS !!!!!!!


Ken

I'm on You Tube daily, viewing ANYTHING related to roulette or casino life. This is short (3:46) but kind of funny and sad >>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odfus7sJwiE

Ken

(lol) I was laughing regarding the wig as well, too funny, thanks.

Ken