if 2L (LL) is a trigger to reverse then would
L noBet L
or
L noBet noBet  L
be also a trigger?


Alternatively, if you get a run of 12's. Bet for them after they appear twice.
in that case we would reverse here:

L noBet noBet REVERSE

Quote from: Bally6354 on January 28, 2013, 05:40:23 PM
* * * * * * * * * ** **
08=03
07=03 (*)
17=06 (*,*)
27=09 (*,*)
11=04 (*,*,**)
02=01 (*,*,*)
19=07 (*,*,**)
27=09 (*,*,*)
31=11 (*,*,**)
20=07 (*,*)
06=02 (*,*,*)
30=10 (*,*,**) *5* bet 1,2,4,7,8,9,11 = 7. +5.
23=08 (*,*,**) *5* WON. bet 3,4,6,7,9,10,11 = 7. -7. (-2)
00= * repeat same bet. 3,4,6,7,9,10,11 = 7. +5. (+3)
12=04 (*,*,*) *5* WON. bet 1,2,3,6,8,10,11 = 7. +5. (+8)
02=01 (*,*,*) *5* WON. bet 2,3,4,7,8,9,11 = 7. +5. (+13)
20=07 (*,*,**) *5* WON. bet 1,2,4,6,8,9,10,11 = 8. +4. (+17)
28=10 (*,*,**) *5* WON. bet 1,2,4,7,8,9,11 = 7. -7. (+10)
36=12 (*,*) *5* WON. (The 'WON' just indicates that the 5 is still the missing street) The bet was actually a loss. no bet next. never bet from the 12 street.
I don't like betting from the 12 street because it often involves betting 9 or more streets.
I don't really see the point in that. The risk seems to outweigh the reward.
33=11 (*,**) *5* WON. bet 1,2,3,6,7,8,9,10 = 8. +4. (+14)
27=09 (*,*,**) *5* WON. bet 3,4,6,7,8,10,11 = 7. +5. (+19)
22=08 (*,*,**) *5* WON. bet 3,4,6,7,9,10,11 = 7. -7. (+12)
15=05 (*,*,**) *1* LOST. bet 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,11 = 8. -8. (+4) shoudnt you bet here 2 3 7 9 10 11?
15=05 (*) *1* WON. (The 'WON' just indicates that the 1 is still the missing street)
This is a situation where I have just lost 2 in a row and I can either bet for the losing run to continue or wait for a paper win before I start betting again.
Betting for the losing run to continue means I would bet for the missing 1 street or the 12 street to appear on the next spin.
That is only a 3 chip bet and I would only bet streets 1,2,12. 
i understand that after 2xL you are reversing bet and you go for 1 and 12.... but where from did you took 2?
its not most sleeping, its not recent... even if you suppose to bet all that shoudnt be bet we would end up with 1 5 6 8 12....
01=01 (*,*,*) *7* LOST.
The missing 1 street did appear and that takes the losing run to three even though I would have won the last bet looking for the loss.
New total = +13.
So I would look for the losing run to continue and now I would bet for the missing 7 or 12 street to appear.
That is only a 4 chip bet and I would only bet streets 2,4,7,12.  same here... where from did you took 2 and 4?
36=12 (*,**) *7* WON. (The 'WON' just indicates that the 7 is still the missing street)
One of either the missing 7 street or the 12 street did appear and that now takes the losing run to 4.
You can see what I mean by the losing runs clumping together as well sometimes.
New total = +21.
Now remember I don't bet from the 12 street and so there is no bet on the next spin.  can street12 be part of DoubleLoss trigger to reverse bet?
22=08 (*) *7* WON. (The 'WON' just indicates that the 7 is still the missing street)
Now I have had 4 losses in a row and there was no bet on the last spin because I don't bet from the 12.
However the last bet was a 'technical winner'
These are the grey areas. You could wait to see if things get back on track with another win.  would you agree to reverse bet back to original betting mode after 2Actual Losses?

does this completely replaces OLD System9? can i remove old version from the bot?

Quote from: Ralph on January 28, 2013, 07:50:32 PM
I will look into this problem, it is not an easy task, if you bet Euro 10, and are on 0.01 the bot have to place 1000 times, I may be to much for the flash recording. A more advanced script would place one or up to 10 chips on differnet dominions.

Been there done that. Have fun! It look cool when it chooses different chips

can you show me first 40spins from this file?

with LW

Quote from: topcat888 on January 27, 2013, 10:20:15 PM
Whilst you are probably right, that is a strange thing to say for someone who 'took the time out' to code a bunch of ill-fated Pattern Recognition Systems into a tracker... why bother.

1. I enjoy coding.
2. Pattern recognition is very powerful and was coded while working on GUT as a part of AI.
3. With attitude "why bother" you won't achieve much in your life.

Automated gut on original settings is doing... not that great as it was claimed.
After tweaking a bit and applying many different kind of fillers its doing rather well... but not good enough to assume its ready to release. 
Maybe some day i will return to it with new ideas and finish it.

RNG (i think)
spins 1M = 42,41,85 (board,wheel,any 12numbers)
OneMillion = 40,39,84 (board,wheel,any 12numbers)

Live (i guess)
700k = 39,39,89 (board,wheel,any 12numbers)
3million = 43,45,89 (board,wheel,any 12numbers)

lol. got some problem uploading spins. will upload them in the evening.

any 12 numbers sleeping?

89 spins

is what i have recorded.
But obviously those numbers can grow.

Hmmm.

This is quite confusing.
Assigning additional sleeping street after miss forces us to also track chart on last numbers spun... which wasn't necessary before.
I may need to rebuild entire tracker because of that.

I see what are you doing here but would be nice if you provided some more examples of choosing one more missing street.
Is there any correlation between furthest removed/furthest spun street  and  assigning new missing street?

What would happen if we lose X times in a row? How would you assign them?
What happens if you are in Profit? How do you reset.
Are you using here cycles (games) here?
When does cycle end?
After cycle ends, do we reset tracking from beginning?

its the same story like with JL Voodoo HAR... just here it is called GUT feeling.

No matter what you do, how you code it, what sort of AI you use... you will always do it wrong. 

Quote from: Bally6354 on January 26, 2013, 09:35:35 PM
I am going to start a separate thread and show you all how I would play system9 differently than just running the tracker/bot and playing it straight through.

Maybe ophis will have some spare time to make a few alterations to the tracker/bot and incorporate the changes.

Sure mate!

I have already told that any issues with antivirus are because exe is compressed with ASPack.
"ASPack makes programs and libraries smaller, and decrease load times across networks, and download times from the internet"
http://www.aspack.com/aspack.html

Bot does not delete cache if you turn it off in options.

here is latest uncompressed version which shouldn't cause any problems with any antivirus.

BTW:
- Read system info
- Capture your screen
- Control your mouse
- Communicate with external server
- Include internal browser
- Write files

Sounds like a Trojan? nah... its just a roulette bot.   
https://www.virustotal.com/file/ae81ff20cbcf68dfe60eb1dc7f043574d0eed3f901b3440176d8ddfe51e5a089/analysis/1359075145/
http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/1597d5512084f51ab81c927d63da22d0caddc2f0

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 21, 2013, 05:47:24 PM
It's is the  L v F system on steriods!

Coded. Tested. Deleted.

Be careful with it. It tanks no matter how you set your your win/loss target.

Quote from: Robeenhuut on January 18, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
Ophis

Looking at your Playtech sample of 20k spins there are sometimes more than 1000 spins without a bet. I think that you can give us a ballpark figure.

Your guess is as good as mine.

Quote from: Robeenhuut on January 18, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
And there are lots of systems that can pass 1M spins especially when you place only few thousand bets. For continuous play play Reversed Labby on RX. You will pass 1M few times. 

Can you post those LOTS of systems? sounds interesting.

Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on January 17, 2013, 10:05:29 AM
Ophis, how many placed bets in average for 1 million spins? An what is the z-score of the method?
Thanks in advance

don't have that kind of statistics because didn't want to implement even more calculations in this bot.
But lately i was wondering my self what is the z-score here, i will let you know if i will have that done.

About bets. don't think that there will be millions of them... after all those systems suppose to be "supplements" in the grand project, but they performed so well (read: passed damn million spins) that i though i should show that.

Either way the idea here is to do something like MST but with "smart" systems (even unplayable) that actually can pass tons of spins.

Problem with MST is that adding -2.7% + -2.7% won't give you + no matter how you connect them.

that's why im trying to create systems that win... small (those do 0.03unit/spin)... but win.
if you add multiple system that will produce 0.0x/spin u can actually have something neat.


BTW:
Anyone got any systems that passes millions of spins? (even unplayable)?