Quote from: Ralph on January 16, 2013, 03:40:51 PM
I did some manual play today, using different tables.

that's great results! Great job.

Quote from: Stepkevh on January 16, 2013, 03:07:21 PM

Playtech account or BV account ?

Stef

Playtech... its faster.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 16, 2013, 02:16:37 PM
It won't only work for me Ophis. It works for those who can stay with it. Now how many truly can?
I mean look at the trouble you and Albalaha have gone to to gift wrap a Hg. Now be honest  how many takers have you got so far. 5, 10, 15.
If you can even find me 10 people who can truly stay with a method and follow the right procedure. Youve got 10 winners.
Some may win more than others. But win they will. The mind gives out first Ophis. You surely know that.

I said im not here to have followers.
Less ppl will buy it the better! Customer support is pain in the a**
It will be for rent - only because people would flame that im showing it and not releasing it.

Quote from: Ralph on January 16, 2013, 02:13:24 PM
Flat bet odd on BVNOZ for 10000000 spins, and the chance to come out a head is 50%, a lesser chance with 1000 plus, a small chance of 10000 plus..

im currently running bot with kamikaze settings on real money... around 30numbers bet with min profit 100units/spin. one hit then reset entire table.... just made 100euro in 1h...
is it a grail? hell no. Is it making money... well it is now. why im playing it? cuz im mad.

would i leave it for a night? no wai!

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if I managed PB with a 10,000 unit BR it will become a holy grail instantly through sheer money management. Simply using multiple betting levels. Its easy to do

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 16, 2013, 01:58:37 PM
What im saying here is the power of H.A.R couldnt be shown to maximum effect with PB.

So which one is it John?

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Regardless 7 ON 1 is a LIVE WHEEL method. And with this H.A.R voodoo as you call it im 945/0

SO.. u got HG that only works for you. Marvelous. Good Job.

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Ophis 7 ON 1 survived 5 million spins on an RNG with no H.A.R Voodoo. Why do you think that's anything special?

What ... where? 5?

Quote from: Bayes on January 14, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
Well, it actually HASN'T done that well, because I didn't incorporate the zero factor. This must push up the number of busts, which theoretically would be enough to put the results negative, but even so, I've never seen a system which has done as well even on a no-zero wheel.

So when I upload the actuals file/results, I'll make sure I've taken account of the zero so you get the true picture.

1 million and... read again:
"Well, it actually HASN'T done that well, because I didn't incorporate the zero factor. "

But if the results will be confirmed... then yes.

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Albalaha, if I managed PB with a 10,000 unit BR it will become a holy grail instantly through sheer money management. Simply using multiple betting levels. Its easy to do.
there's no magic here. Ideally everyone should bring a huge BR to the party. But everyone doesn't have 10,000 units.
Juiced spoke of an 8,000 unit drawdown. PB would never ever drawdown even 1,000 units if its money managed properly.
Look what Subby has done with zero MM. Put 10,000 units there and play for 2 unit points. And you have a HG.

So... what is the MM for PB? i will run it in a second in MST on those 3million spins.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 16, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
If you give me a 10,000 unit bankroll. Any number of methods could be made supernova proof.

1. I said u don't need 10 000 at least 3 times already.
2. I will give u 10 000 units if u give me methods that will survive 10million spins with it. WITHOUT HAR VOODOO.

that's good idea. Just let me implement playtech....

BTW: anyone got some account this could be done? On casino where there is no problems with withdrawals?

that's actually good.
What system is this exactly?

Anyone else got something similar?
We could combine them.

Quote from: Robeenhuut on January 16, 2013, 07:07:10 AM
You can pass with Reversed Labby 1M mark. If you play with 0.01u and 200u BR you can handle large draw downs. Hardly any new stuff. 

Picture or it didn't happen.

Quote from: Juiced91 on January 16, 2013, 07:58:08 AM
Im stating the simple fact that you want to play with pennies and that would not make it a worthwhile option.

So... instead 0.03 unit/spin profit u prefer -2.7%?

BTW:
Playtech = 10 000 spins/hour = 30euro with 0.1

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Im glad you're going to go and sell everything you have so that you can win a few units and also at a table with 8000+ limit.

U can play with 1000... or 500.
Why are you even here if u don't have money to play with? Roulette is not about making money... its about multiplying them.

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More than one methods would pass a very large number of spins, if the spread is as at BV. 1 to 100000.

Its not required. Table limits does not matter. You can change that.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 15, 2013, 05:20:28 PM
Ophis you are missing the point. Even if you have the HG and gift wrap it and hand it to every gambler on the planet for FREE. Not even 10% of them will use it or at worst STAY WITH IT.

That's what I am saying. Now you want people to buy this off of you. Work that one out.

I think you got problems with reading mate:
"This was not posted to make profit out of it.
It was shown show all of you serious players that there is no reason to loose hope because in fact roulette can be beaten in the long run."

I got money, don't need much more of them.

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The person telling everyone else they have a grail but not using it themselves.

And again. Read again. Did i write somewhere i don't play with it?..... iv made it for my self!

Quote from: Ralph on January 15, 2013, 05:56:23 PM
Share the winnings is an old trick, if not scam, are you sharing the loss as well.

It will be calculated monthly. its not like it will count only wins...
But if someone will put settings on 10 000 drop and will have 1000 units bankroll.. that's not my problem mate.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 15, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
Why sell this if its half as good as you claim.

This was not posted to make profit out of it.
It was shown show all of you serious players that there is no reason to loose hope because in fact roulette can be beaten in the long run.

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You should be using it yourself to make a mint as I will with my methods.

All your methods are HAR Voodoo. Which work only for you. Anything that cannot be tested is not true.

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If its good it should stand up on the original format of roulette. THE LIVE WHEEL.

it does. chart of 3million spins is from wisebaden.

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Why sell this if its half as good as you claim.

Yes... old talking. No one will ever publish holy grail... grow up. Not everyone is selfish.

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How much bankroll required to work it for starters?

Already said that you can choose what sort of bankroll you have... from 100 up to ...what ever.
But numbers of bets relay on this. that's why 10 000 is recommended.
But i can setup settings on 250 units and run those 3millions if u want... it will pass them... just not much profit.

And for starters i recommend going to work.
U can't take out if you will not put in. And you defiantly won't become Bill Gates with 10euro in your pocket.

No idea what's wrong with 100 euro (10 000units) as a bankroll... i earn more pay day in my day job.

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And asking people to part with money for it.

Do you really thing this should be free?
Iv already give reasons why its not free:
1. There is tons of work put into this.
2. People do not appreciate free stuff.
3. This is EPIC.


The questions is more like... should be made public?!

If it will ever be public it will be on % of winnings based anyway.
u Win u pay some % as a tribute to developers.
u don't play u don't pay.

Quote from: soggett on January 15, 2013, 02:16:17 PM
with the safer mode what is the max DD over the same spins (the first few graphs) ?

u set up max DD you can handle *bankroll*
if u reduce bankroll from 10 000 to 1000 u can expect 10times less bets/profit.

Quote from: soggett on January 15, 2013, 02:16:17 PM
Is it worth the safer way?

If instead of bankroll u got time.... then yes.

Quote from: soggett on January 15, 2013, 02:16:17 PM
Can it be played live?

In theory - yes.
But... 400spins/night... profit too small.

Quote from: soggett on January 15, 2013, 02:16:17 PM
Will you release the tracker/bot?

Tracker - No.
Bot - Probably yes. But need to implement more casinos and most defiantly not for free. Why?
1. There is tons of work put into this.
2. People do not appreciate free stuff.
3. This is EPIC.

Quote from: soggett on January 15, 2013, 02:41:22 PM
Can you tell us if this bets on EC, dozens, straight up or what?

Strait up. 2-35 numbers. Bets vary. All withing configurable limits according to specific casino.

just small notice:

systems are configured to work with 15 000 units bankroll (150 euro at 0.01)

but this can be adjusted from -1000 to -100 000.... bigger bankroll = more profit.