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#121
Buffster, apologies. Here you go.
We talked about entry points. Now let's talk about exit points and the number of bets.

Exit points
How many times have you chased the hot numbers and found that they turn cold for the next 100 spins. The first rule for anyone playing roulette is you can observe what is happening now and journal what happened in the past, but NEVER can you predict what is going to happen. Same goes true with dominance as well. What is dominant now, according to the laws of probability may or may not remain dominant for the next 5 spins. 4 reds and 1 black might soon result in 4 reds and 5 blacks.  Against this mathematical rules, we decided to choose dominance as our entry points and primary mode of play. We decided to take the side of fallacy.

There is nothing wrong in taking the side of fallacy. We just need to know why we are doing what we are doing. We just need to know the limitations of fallacy and suit our play around it. And there comes the exit points. After careful observation and consideration, I have decided to go ahead with an exit after 3 consecutive losing spins. This to me is the taste of dominance shifting towards the other side of the coin. We STOP betting on the current dominant side after this exit point. Note, we are not stopping betting altogether, we are just stopping betting on the dominant EC that we have been betting so far. We will talk about what to do after this Stop in a little more detail, but after explaining number of bets and an example explaining exit points and number of bets.

Number of bets
Now what is number of bets? It is nothing but the number of ECs that we will chose. There are a couple of factors that will decide this. One, not every EC will show dominant characteristics at the same time always. Two, It should be simple and easy to track without too much going on our head. Three, Always allow for a plan B, as your plan A may not work always. Four, EC is a 18 number bet.

Taking all the above into consideration, my play revolves around 2 outside ECs (two out of the 3 outside ECs RB, EO or LH). Easy to follow, easy to place bets, two sets of 18 numbers to serve as plan A and plan B, two sets of 18 numbers complimenting each other with a few overlaps and not subsets and simple to track in a tissue that comes along with the snack. My primary bets are on RB and EO. It doesn't matter which one you use, all that matters is, it should be two sets of 18 numbers complementing each other. There is no point in chosing 1 EC bet as Low/High and the other as Lines 1,2,3/4,5,6. You see what I mean?

Lets get to the example.  Lets take the Wiesbaden spins from yesterday table 3 and use RB and EO as our primary bets.


[csv=,]
Spins  ,Win/loss  ,RB,Win/loss  ,OE
14,,,,
6,,R1,,E1
33,,R1B1,,E2
33,,R1B2,,E2O1
33,,R1B3,,E2O2
9,-1,B4 - bet black,,E2O3
29,1,R1B4 - bet black,1,O4 - bet odd
28,1,R1B4 - bet black,-1,O4 - bet odd
32,-1,R1B4 - bet black,-1,E1O4 - bet odd
14,-1,R2B4 - bet black,-1,E2O4 - bet odd
5,-1,R3B4 - bet black,,3 losses. End of bet
2,,3 losses. End of bet,,
28,,,,
19,,,,
25,,,,
3,,,,
32,,,,
34,,,,
26,,,,
31,,,,
Total,-1,,-2,
[/csv]
#122
General Discussion / Re: Roulette Bot Pro
November 18, 2013, 05:13:06 PM
Looks like there is a long silence. Vic, did you nail anything on the coffin?
#123
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: Pockets' Play
November 18, 2013, 05:08:10 PM
So here goes the summary of another lucky day.

18 Nov 2013 - +125.6$

13:20 - Back Uxisandre at 1.7 - +7
13:35 - Lay Lac Sacre at 3.95 - +10
13:50 - Lay V Neck at 2.32 - +10
14:00 - Back Earthflight at 2.28 - +12.8
14:10 - Lay Nom de guerre at 1.75 - +10
14:20 - Plumpudding to place at 2.44 - -10
14:30 - Lay Heska at 2 - +10
14:40 - Canadian diamond to place at 2.72 - +17.2
14:50 - Goochypoochyprader to place and win at 5.9 and 2.16 - -20
15:00 - Lay winterwell at 1.82 - +8.2 15:20 Lay Cruclasse at 6.2 - +10
15:30 Lay Eisthyaaq at 5.7 - +10
15:30 Aiyana and Aplin mysteriess to place at 3.35 and 2.06 - +23.5, -10
15:40 Dubai prince to win at 1.84 - +8.4 17:00 - Lay Yul Finegold at 3.85 - +10
17:00 - Knockgraffon Lad to place at 3.85 - +28.5


And for those wondering what happened to that punt on almost all the horses in the race, it reaped a profit of 32.5£ with Knockgraffon Lad finishing first with a late burst with Venutis leading the first half of the race and Singzak the second. For a moment i thought i will settle in for 1£ with Singzak winning, if not for that late burst.
#124
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: Pockets' Play
November 18, 2013, 04:43:03 PM
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Apart from what I have tipped, as I am in well into the positive territory, going to look for a few races which are hard to predict and bet like the attachment. It is essentially backing almost all horses in the race, expecting an outcome which will surprise everyone. THIS IS NOT A TIP, don't PRACTICE IF YOU ARE NOT SURE ABOUT WHAT AM DOING HERE.

This is a bit different from laying a horse. Different in two counts. One, the outlay is going to be huge and a huge risk. I don't do this, until i had a great day and try to top that day. Two, laying produces a constant outcome, whereas this produces a variable outcome based on the odds. Worser the odds, better the outcome.
#125
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: Pockets' Play
November 18, 2013, 04:36:26 PM
17:00 - Lay Yul Finegold at 3.85
17:00 - Knockgraffon Lad to place at 3.85
#126
Buffster, just not finding the time to post it amidst other commitments. Will do so this week.[smiley]blacy/blacy-red_heart.png[/smiley]
#127
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: Pockets' Play
November 18, 2013, 03:19:39 PM
15:20 Lay Cruclasse at 6.2 - +10
15:30 Lay Eisthyaaq at 5.7 - +10
15:30 Aiyana and Aplin mysteriess to place at 3.35 and 2.06 - +23.5, -10
15:40 Dubai prince to win at 1.84 - +8.4
#128
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: Pockets' Play
November 18, 2013, 01:22:08 PM
18 Nov 2013 - +55.2$

13:20 - Back Uxisandre at 1.7 - +7
13:35 - Lay Lac Sacre at 3.95 - +10
13:50 - Lay V Neck at 2.32 - +10
14:00 - Back Earthflight at 2.28 - +12.8
14:10 - Lay Nom de guerre at 1.75 - +10
14:20 - Plumpudding to place at 2.44 - -10
14:30 - Lay Heska at 2 - +10
14:40 - Canadian diamond to place at 2.72 - +17.2
14:50 - Goochypoochyprader to place and win at 5.9 and 2.16 - -20
15:00 - Lay winterwell at 1.82 - +8.2
#129
Quote from: esoito on November 15, 2013, 11:20:07 PM
I noticed one in particular you backed at 1.9xxx -- and it failed.
That reminded me that there's a school of thought that says backing at under 2.50 is a quick way to bankruptcy.
A bit dramatic but I know what they mean!
[Feel free to delete this post if you don't want it cluttering up your thread  ;) ]
Who am i to delete posts :) More discussion, better thought process.

I can't agree more with this school of thought. Anything under an even return to work, we have to win at least 50% of the bets. And am talking only about even returns, imagine with many returning under evens. And with nothing guaranteed in horse racing, achieving 50% or more over a long term is next to impossible.

Taking this a little deeper and putting pure mathematics, in a 5 horse race, when the odds for a horse to win are less than 2, we are placing our money in a position where we are backing 1 outcome to occur against 4 other outcomes possible, which is a 5/1 ratio where as the return is only 2/1 ratio. Long way to cover. On the other hand on laying this horse, we are backing a 5/4 ratio with a return of 2/1 which is obviously better.
#130
15 Nov 2013 - -1$

11:55 Lingfield Captain secret to place at 2.14 - -10
12:25 Lingfield Lay Pool house at 2.12 - +10
12:55 Lingfiled Lay Freedoms light at 2.62 - -16.2
13:05 Cheltanham Victrix Gale to place at 2.38 - -10
13:25 Lingfiled Back Paris rose to place at 2.26 - +12.6
13:35 Cheltanham Eastlake to place at 2.32 - +13.2
13:55 Lingfield Jay bee blue to win at 4.1 - -10
14:05 Cheltanham Lay Oscar Whisky at 1.71 - +10
14:30 Lingfield Glastonberry and Rowe park to place at 2.66 and 4.3 - +6.6
14:40 Cheltanham ATlantic roller to win at 14 - -10
14:40 Cheltanham Top gamble to place at 2.12- -10
15:05 Lingfield Lay leonard thomas at 2.76 - +10
15:15 Cheltanham Lay Balthazar King at 2.84 - -18.4
15:40 Lingfield back Atlanta bay to win at 1.95 - -10
15:50 Cheltanham Daliance to place at 7.8 - -10
17:45 - Lay beautyforte at 3.4 - +10
18:15 - have a nice day to place at 2.54 +15.4
18:45 - Back Magnolia beach @1.85 - +8.5
19:15 - Happy anniversary to win @5.9 - -10
19:45 - Neds indian to place @1.93 - +9.3
20:15 - Hawkswood to place at evens - -10
20:45 - Lay High net worth @2.54 - +10
21:15 - Back Shes no joke at 2.8 - +18
21:15 - Tobair an sheeda to place at 4.1 - -10
#131
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: Pockets' Play
November 15, 2013, 08:43:43 AM
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#132
Tips for the day (14 Nov 2013) - +37$
12:20 - Southwell - Easydoesit to place@9.8              -10
12:50 - Southwell - SToney Quine to win @3.35       -10 
12:50 - Southwell - Amadaffair to place @1.96          +9.6
12:55 - Clonmel - Lay Unic de bersy @2.44               +10
12:55 - Clonmel - Back The Job is Right @5.1           +41
13:00 - Ludlow - Lay Aglaophonos @ 2.68                +10
13:00 - Ludlow - Back Ballyglasheen @6                   -10
13:10 - Taunton - Transfer to place @2.1                    -10
13:20 - Southwell - Back Supa U for win @2.92        -10
13:25 - Clonmel - Famousballerina to place @1.66    +6.6
13:30 - Ludlow - Lay freethinking @2.82                   -19
13:40 - Taunton - Enchanting smile to place @19.2   -10
14:10 - Taunton - Western king win @ 6                   -10
14:20 - back silly billy @5.5                                      +45
14:30 - Ludlow - Suerte Al Salto to place @2.7        -10
14:40 - Lay CupFinal @2                                           +10
15:00 - Ludlow - Isola bella to place @2                   -10
15:10 - Back bolinjudith @5                                      -10
15:20 - Lay MonsieurJamie @3.25                            +10
15:20 - Royal bhajan to place @2                              -10
15:25 - Lay Quartetto @5.1                                       +10
15:30 - Lay DreamsandSongs @5.1                          +10
15:30 - Simply a legend to place @1.8                      -10
15:40 - Lay Milosam @2.92                                      -19
16:20 - Back MyGigi @2                                          +10
16:50 - Lay Dancing rain @2.14                               +10
17:20 - Kindinvitation to place @1.65                      +6.5
17:20 Lay Joohaina @3.55                                       +10
17:50 Back Havelovewilltravel@1.97                     -10
18:20 Syrenka to place @2.38                                 +13.8
18:50 Just Rubie to place @5.2                              -10
19:20 - Lay stomp at 2.64                                       +10
19:20 - Djinni to place @2.16                                -10
19:50 - First class to place @2.74                          +17.4
19:50 Lay Emkanat @1.84                                     -8.4
#133
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: Trifecta
November 14, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Quote from: esoito on November 14, 2013, 10:18:05 PM
An interesting resource:  http://www.internationaltrifectabetting.com/
I like his FAQ answer on dilution due to too many people buying the book:)
#134
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Trifecta
November 14, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
Any one practicing it?
#135
13 Nov 2013 - +103.3$

12:50 Allerton win - +49
12:50 Morgan's bay place - -10
13:00 Man amongst men - -3.7
13:10 Minella park - +10
13:10 Neville - -10
13:20 Tullyraine - -31
13:20 Black is beautiful - +30
13:40 Moorland mist - -10
13:50 Mountainous - -10
13:50 Midnight appeal - +46
15:30 Hawker - +45
15:30 Desert skies - -10
15:40 Moleskin - +10
15:40 Moorlands jack - +8
15:50 Foryourinformation +10
16:00 Scarymovie - -10
16:00 Remix - -10
16:10 Rubyglow - -10
16:20 Exkaliber - +10