Quote from: Albalaha on January 26, 2014, 06:10:31 AM

Saint Pockets going to run away from the challenge. He made a magic potion and was about to display but things gone wrong, so magic potion evaporate and no longer have a magic.
                          You can only spread new set of fallacies and not any working principal, that can help anybody, even slightly.

Am not going anywhere Albalaha. Answer my questions. Don't try running away by picking things. I am here and I can tell millions of times I accept the challenge.  But answer my questions.  Posts are ticking away and you are just runni g away. You have still jot answered me.  Looks like you don't have a method.  At least accept that you lied.  You don't even have to post your method . If you accept that you lied I will play it spin by spin. If you can't accept you lied post your method so that I can prove mine. 

Only empty vessels make noise Albalaha. I read it somewhere.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 26, 2014, 05:56:57 AM
can't find the thread, but I pretty much memorized it.  (Snicker!)  Where is that darn thread?

Here you go Sam.
http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/musings-Albalaha-and-his-open-challenge/msg26119/#msg26119

Quote from: Albalaha on January 26, 2014, 05:59:56 AM
"If you want to prove you are not lying post your method as I have done  first"

You Haven't posted a method but a joke, otherwise people would have jumped over that. Play in cycles of this and that and become a cyclone. Do not make fun of yourself, anymore.
                   If you want to give this forum one thing that can practically be used to benefit and you truly feel that your method beats all numbers of zumma, post that with illustration. Believe me, you will be a legend here and nobody will talk of albalaha, the scammer or albalaha the devil, ever.
    Otherwise keep your gossip running.

                               

As usual running away with your lies without answering me directly.  When a kid can't have its way the next trick is throwing some tantrums.  Come on Albalaha.  Answer me.  Answe me directly.


I have the courage to take your challenge.  Do you have the courage to make it fair? I posted my method.  I showed the workings for set of spins on how to play it. Let it be a joke. I will show you spin by spin on how this joke will come positive after playing every number on Zumma 15k. But can you at least prove that you have a method?? Come on Albalaha answer me if you are telling truth.  You don't have to be scared if you really have a method. You have to be only if you are lying. Are you lying.  You said to prove supremacy over you.  First prove that your method is supreme. 

Yes it is the one Sam. Sam I will dig the thread and post it. You are absolutely right Sam. And I know that and am grateful you said that. I never said I have a holy grail. All I am saying is it will beat any number you pick up from the 15000 spins of Zumma.   

I completely agree with you about not proving anything Sam. But I am done with some growls.  I am done with someone beating everybody with false claims. I am done with lies. I wanted to see if they can end.  If you think it's futile, I will leave it here. 

Mr Albalaha.  Don't try to fire away and talk unnecessary things and try to escape with your lies.

I accept the challenge. I will post spin by spin results of number 3 and any other number you post here. But. One condition.  A battle is only fought if it is fair.  I posted method.  I will play it as I have posted.  But you claim yourselves to be supreme.  You seem to so want everyone to benefit.  Why don't you post your method like I did.  I will show then how to play my method spin by spin. Do you have the courage to fight with me and prove me wrong. If you can't accept this fair challenge better not continue with your lies and fool yourselves further as everyone in the forum except you seem to know that you are lying. 

Great job steph.  And congratulations

Quote from: Albalaha on January 26, 2014, 05:40:25 AM
  it for everyone to see

It is there in my post for everyone to see. I didn't know that you can't read. 

Quote from: Albalaha on January 26, 2014, 05:34:13 AM
I will accept your supremacy over me. Do you have enough courage to take this?

I have the courage and openness to accept this challenge. But first of all you prove your word. Can you do this for your method as you say and prove that you are supreme? If anyone in that board says that it is not needed I will do mine first. Until that point in time, I can't so the work for you.  There is a limit to being lazy and building on your false claims.  If you have the courage to accept my challenge post your method.  If you want to prove you are not lying post your method as I have done  first.  You don't even have to post number in an excel one by one.  Just post your method.  Then we are on equal grounds and I will take your challenge.  Until that point in time you are just a plain coward who is lying and there is no point in any discussion. Friends is is fair? If anyone says it is not fair I will spend some more time and post my spin by spin results.

Quote from: Albalaha on January 26, 2014, 04:31:06 AM


Can anybody match?

I did post my graph in the same session.  You trolled the post and made to delete my results along with a few other posts. 

You are number 279 there. Had you scrolled the page above you would have seen a number of people have beaten more spins with a better result.  All I can say to you is Wake up mate.  There is no point in wasting time here proving you are GOD. You will get nothing out of it.  What if the 500 members here tell you that you have a grail? What do you get?  You better go to the casinos and win some money and live your life.  There is no point posting 1 cent last 10 day results from BV.  I thought your  MM can do better than that.  Go and milk those casinos. Even after telling you are leaving All public casinos and then hanging around here.  Are you a man of your words? Is there any credibility in your words? You decide yourselves.  But someone warned you there is no point spending time discussing with you. I am taking the advice to the letter now.  My last post in any of your discussions.

You Are someone who build your argument in lies.  Is there any point in discussing with you.  You don't have any grail until you come clear.  You don't have any grail until you expose it here.  Till that point in time your claim is as severe a lie as your other statements.  How can you even sAy that the method that I posted fails without even checking.  It wins for every number of Zumma.  Yes all numbers.  I am not hiding anything like you do. If anyone wants to discount my claim they can verify it themselves.  You are just a plain liar and nothing else. I don't know why you are lying to yourselves. 

Very funny thread.  I guess everyone predicted right. 

Quote from: pb65 on January 23, 2014, 02:31:06 AM
GUT does work and while it might seem like voodoo it can make a good profit when played right. 

The biggest problem newbies face is having to put a lot of time into practicing with it and getting proficient seeing the crossings and betting them. There are a number or very good trackers that do most of the work for you.

Completely agree. It is easy to play as well with trackers. There is no rocket science.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 19, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
I'll ask.  I don't get any of it.

Sam

Sam, Let me try to explain this with an example. Following are the wiesbaden spins from yesterday. I am just going to play 0. I have explained spin by spin.

Now as you can see here, 0 doesn't hit for quite sometime. So we attack for 36 spins, stop attack wait until it hits, then start attack for another 36 spins and so on. If we get a hit, the attack count starts again from 1. Hope going through this example, the spin cycle gets more clear. Let me know if sitll in doubt.


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Spin,Attack number,Units on bet,Result,Bankroll,Remarks
28,1,6,-6,-6,
24,2,6,-6,-12,
34,3,6,-6,-18,
32,4,6,-6,-24,
32,5,6,-6,-30,
8,6,6,-6,-36,
16,7,6,-6,-42,
6,8,6,-6,-48,
34,9,6,-6,-54,
32,10,6,-6,-60,
36,11,5,-5,-65,
29,12,5,-5,-70,
23,13,5,-5,-75,
21,14,5,-5,-80,
15,15,5,-5,-85,
35,16,5,-5,-90,
10,17,5,-5,-95,
36,18,5,-5,-100,
3,19,5,-5,-105,
3,20,3,-3,-108,
26,21,3,-3,-111,
25,22,3,-3,-114,
11,23,3,-3,-117,
18,24,3,-3,-120,
27,25,3,-3,-123,
5,26,3,-3,-126,
23,27,3,-3,-129,
13,28,3,-3,-132,
11,29,3,-3,-135,
9,30,1,-1,-136,
23,31,1,-1,-137,
33,32,1,-1,-138,
18,33,1,-1,-139,
9,34,1,-1,-140,
8,35,1,-1,-141,
13,36,1,-1,-142,"End attack. Wait for a hit, before attack starts again."
10,,,,-142,
20,,,,-142,
2,,,,-142,
6,,,,-142,
17,,,,-142,
16,,,,-142,
1,,,,-142,
8,,,,-142,
33,,,,-142,
33,,,,-142,
29,,,,-142,
17,,,,-142,
25,,,,-142,
15,,,,-142,
18,,,,-142,
7,,,,-142,
1,,,,-142,
20,,,,-142,
34,,,,-142,
2,,,,-142,
4,,,,-142,
10,,,,-142,
26,,,,-142,
1,,,,-142,
25,,,,-142,
27,,,,-142,
11,,,,-142,
24,,,,-142,
34,,,,-142,
3,,,,-142,
29,,,,-142,
10,,,,-142,
3,,,,-142,
1,,,,-142,
36,,,,-142,
36,,,,-142,
19,,,,-142,
14,,,,-142,
5,,,,-142,
23,,,,-142,
10,,,,-142,
16,,,,-142,
28,,,,-142,
12,,,,-142,
24,,,,-142,
22,,,,-142,
21,,,,-142,
6,,,,-142,
35,,,,-142,
34,,,,-142,
2,,,,-142,
14,,,,-142,
29,,,,-142,
18,,,,-142,
7,,,,-142,
12,,,,-142,
6,,,,-142,
14,,,,-142,
25,,,,-142,
15,,,,-142,
24,,,,-142,
34,,,,-142,
13,,,,-142,
7,,,,-142,
7,,,,-142,
10,,,,-142,
35,,,,-142,
36,,,,-142,
27,,,,-142,
23,,,,-142,
14,,,,-142,
7,,,,-142,
23,,,,-142,
30,,,,-142,
6,,,,-142,
23,,,,-142,
12,,,,-142,
28,,,,-142,
13,,,,-142,
0,,,,-142,Hit. Resume attack again from where we left. We left at progression 36. So start at progression 37.
18,37,1,-1,-143,
30,38,1,-1,-144,
18,39,1,-1,-145,
29,40,1,-1,-146,
36,41,1,-1,-147,
8,42,1,-1,-148,
0,43,1,35,-113,Hit. Reset progression to 1
35,1,6,-6,-119,
5,2,6,-6,-125,
25,3,6,-6,-131,
5,4,6,-6,-137,
3,5,6,-6,-143,
26,6,6,-6,-149,
9,7,6,-6,-155,
0,8,6,210,55,Hit. Reset progression to 1
24,1,6,-6,49,
29,2,6,-6,43,
11,3,6,-6,37,
16,4,6,-6,31,
30,5,6,-6,25,
5,6,6,-6,19,
15,7,6,-6,13,
28,8,6,-6,7,
1,9,6,-6,1,
6,10,6,-6,-5,
27,11,5,-5,-10,
13,12,5,-5,-15,
7,13,5,-5,-20,
20,14,5,-5,-25,
24,15,5,-5,-30,
25,16,5,-5,-35,
6,17,5,-5,-40,
35,18,5,-5,-45,
12,19,5,-5,-50,
36,20,3,-3,-53,
1,21,3,-3,-56,
31,22,3,-3,-59,
0,23,3,105,46,Hit. Reset progression to 1
25,1,6,-6,40,
2,2,6,-6,34,
36,3,6,-6,28,
10,4,6,-6,22,
32,5,6,-6,16,
26,6,6,-6,10,
8,7,6,-6,4,
20,8,6,-6,-2,
3,9,6,-6,-8,
12,10,6,-6,-14,
10,11,5,-5,-19,
30,12,5,-5,-24,
32,13,5,-5,-29,
0,14,5,175,146,Hit. Reset progression to 1
14,1,6,-6,140,
35,2,6,-6,134,
3,3,6,-6,128,
18,4,6,-6,122,
20,5,6,-6,116,
28,6,6,-6,110,
13,7,6,-6,104,
32,8,6,-6,98,
18,9,6,-6,92,
4,10,6,-6,86,
33,11,5,-5,81,
1,12,5,-5,76,
22,13,5,-5,71,
33,14,5,-5,66,
8,15,5,-5,61,
1,16,5,-5,56,
34,17,5,-5,51,
18,18,5,-5,46,
15,19,5,-5,41,
0,20,3,105,146,Hit. Reset progression to 1
24,1,6,-6,140,
22,2,6,-6,134,
26,3,6,-6,128,
25,4,6,-6,122,
1,5,6,-6,116,
11,6,6,-6,110,
[/csv]

Quote from: Number Six on January 19, 2014, 06:02:28 PM
You probably need to make the distinction between simply observing an event with no wager, and the probability of winning a wager on that event.

How would you treat a dummy bet in BVNZ? We are placing a wager, but it will end up in no loss/no gain.

Quote from: Number Six on January 19, 2014, 06:02:28 PM
You can only gain an upperhand if you can prove that somehow the short term odds do not represent the true odds of the game between two optimum points in time;

My take-away from your post.

Quote from: Xander on January 18, 2014, 11:41:37 PM
Every spin is an individual outcome.  It's not possible to overcome the game's negative expectation so why combine the outcomes of a random game?

Let me be clear. I never said I have a holy grail. It is not mathematically possible to overcome the negative expectation. See below. That is where I agree with you 100% because I share your view about fools and money.

Quote from: Pockets on January 17, 2014, 12:48:26 PM
If someone beats the challenge, without reverse engg, does it mean they have the holy grail? I need to think about it. Any views?

But imagine this, assume that there are 37 random outcomes. How large a sample do you need to have exactly all 37 outcomes in 37 chances. My server crashed multiple times trying to find this out. The funny thing it might happen tomorrow when i start spinning bv. Why? Probability is indeed common sense. It is a funny subject and it cannot say anything for certain.

Coming to you question of combining multiple spins. Forget roulette. Say you are tossing a coin. Every toss of a coin is independent just like roulette spins. What is the probability that the next spin is head? Always 50%. Here your trial covers 1 chance.

Now lets combine two tosses. Both are independent. What is the probability that head appears at least once in these two tosses. 75%. Here your trial covers 2 chances. This is why am saying combine spins so that the probability of your outcome appearing atleast once increases.

If you treat a trial as 1 chance you will never get here. After increasing the probability, now the question boils down to the money management that will help you reap this. I have put things simply as money management, where as it goes far deeper than that covering right from micro level covering the optimal number of chances for your trial based on the returns to a macro level. That's the toughest part.