Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 19, 2013, 03:23:02 PM
Ralph

Are you talking about the screen that is colored and shows each individual bet or the one where it is white with loses in red and wins in green?  I don't know if they put up that last one in play money.  Do they?  If so, I've never found it.

Sam

It is the history for all games in the last ten days, that one you get on the table I have, but it is lost as soon you have to restart.
It stop date up a few days ago.

In fum mode (BV) my history is disabled, I can not see the play done. Anybody else got the same?

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 19, 2013, 03:52:51 AM
I have done nothing to either of my three computers, but now I can see the images perfectly.

So to those who poo-pooed me........I say............


HA!!

Sam

I have seen pictures, some are mine, and still see some, which shows very small in the left upper corner, and most are white area.
If I click the picture it shows in large size. that's a "random" thing, and I do not think it is a thing due to our computers.

We worse has not come yet!!  ROI!!!




I do not sell it, but tell any body how I do!

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 18, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
Getting back to something positive................

Been running the L v F on the ExcelBot.  I accept Ralph's  like play and real are the same at BV.  It went something like that.

How do you say something works?  A batter consistently hits 40%.  Misses 60%.  What team would love to have him?  Pay him millions?

Same with this bot/system.  Does it win every trot?  No!!  From time to time, it loses 100E.  For every 100 it loses, it wins about 400.

So why am I still in play money.  Well, my wife asks that delving her checkbook around like a boomerang. 

I am keeping an exact record of what it going on.  Not just the bot, but what to do when BV crashes.  The bot NEVER crashes.

I suspect that when I hit a profit of 2,000 I/we will fork over the money and go for real.  Then we shall see if the play scenario and the real scenario match up.

Right now I am at around 1,300 profit play money.  I tried setting the thing to win 10 or lose 50 and that was a tragedy.  I lost 200 before I could turn around.  It needs a cushion (cousin conferable!) of money to go down and come back.

More as it happens.

Sam

Sam!


If you want to win 10, you must risk may be 1000, the risk of that is lower than try to risk 10 to win the same.


I have had losses, the worse 100000 units, but still I am since years on plus. Do not be afraid of your banroll. The time is to before make a risk budget, after that RISK IT if you want to win.


Take your time, a loss now, you must not recover now, it can be done "In the long run" (a few days).


Do not recjet a method because you lost once, and do not think a method is good by winning a few times.  Try to find methods which can stand a drawdown and have recovery potential.   We win using a good method and luck help us by.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on February 18, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
before  playing one number straight up i have my examined . never did and never will. i am not a dork benefitting the casino.

ND

This is a vague answer!  All we put on net stays as long the civilisation stand. I have seen much of your postings.   changes over time, and that's is not bad it may or may be some improvements.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 18, 2013, 04:13:03 PM
It's bait for a scam.  Do not fall for it.

We got quite a few entrepreneurs here Sam, and you use to have nothing against that.  So the point is we can  sell things as software and even other things and it should meet that it is to do.  Systems which claim you will for sure win should never be allowed to be sold here. I can maybe tolerate some sell a system  which claim it is ensure to lose.    I have some of those, but I do not ask for fee. 

Quote from: NathanDetroit on February 18, 2013, 03:30:17 PM
the first 3 spins of any method should  tell you "what`s  what" . anything above that  is horse play .


ND

We talk about playing one straight up, one number only. Can you see how to fix it in less than three spins, you will do rather well.

One number straight up is a good bet (for a bot), you try first as pivot, try to win in less than 36 spins.  If not go on using one chip bet, until a hit. add a chip, and we use to get at hit rather soon. I have recorded 1008 sleeping number and make it win. It takes some time, that's why a bot is handy. If you just want to "beat the wheel" and gain very little you can do it manually (the bot can not make you much money  and not runs faster than autospin, but more relaxing ).


As with all play, you can lose, it is still to come. I have not yet lost using this simple method.

Quote from: Drazen on February 18, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
Is that 21 win in 1000 spins the worst possible scenario?

Do you maybe have L/W sequence of those spins?

Drazen

You do not expect the worse every time you run 1000 spins, you will lose 233 units flat betting one number.  You can never be sure 21 is the worse case.  If you can, then  I think  you can run even that,  close to break even.

Why try to win in millions of spinn, then you can do it with much less? 

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 17, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
Ralph

My bots are crashing to due to BV and their "Your request could not be completed".  Or lost connection.

Sam

Sam!



The bot works here, but I do not play it just now, doing some EC manual. I have lost the history in fun mode, happens now and then.

We see often methods which use progressions on EC:s, and it looks like many underestimate the chances for a longer run of the same.
How many times have we not seen somebody count a run of seven as very unlikely. An some think a wheel is rigged because  it has been a run of 9 or more.


I have checked  beside my other play, how often we can expect a longer run in 200 spins. The result is it is very rare to not see a run of
at least 5 in 200 spins, and it is more likely it is  6-9.


On a zero wheel a single zero can chop a run, and if we play against the run or not it is  a problem. We should if possible play EC on NOZero.


Knowing we can expect about  7 in a run in 200 spins It should be possible to make some use of that knowledge. Seven run can a Martingale easy fix, but nothing says it can't be several more, and then the loss is as it use to be when a negative progression bust, the bankroll is wiped out.


I have done quite a lot of playing the last days, checking out how to use the runs, and I have done it many times before.
It will be some who might not agree, but exploring the runs should be using positive progressions. At to the maximum, we should reverse the Martingale.   If we double on win we will lose a chip every  trial, and win nothing at all.


We have to set a number of times we will double on a win, to have any chance to get a profit.  As we know we are on 50% chance every spin on a NoZero, we only fight the variance, No HE, but a tax on the winnings.


There is a fair chance to get a run of 7 in about 200 spins.  I started On BVNZ using 0.1  and , 40 Euro at risk.


Then we follow the last, and double up after a win, starting with reset after four winnings, and pocket the winnings. If the play went so choppy  we  could not recover using four winnings, it is to increase the times we try.  We know it does not matter how many times we double, it is just a matter of time before they show, and seven is not very unlikely in about 200 spins.


We in a way change the role of the bank, the bank plays for one chip, the player going for more, the opposite as Martingale played double on loss, the the player risk much for a single chip.


I did this in fun mode, but the casino is not displaying my fun mode history since a few days, this happen now and then.

Run 3560 spins during the night, went down all  90.00. It was on plus quite a while.   Shut down the bot, and when checked the history is not working since a few days in fun mode.


Edit: The  drawdown when the bot stop was not 90.00. It stopped due to connection broken.  it went down 5.76. No history found.

I run it for 1000 spins, was at small plus up to 850 spins, went down at the end to a minus of 8.23. I will  run it during the night and see how it runs. Start all over from 90.00 and a win target of 8.23.