The bug is corrected pls download the upgraded bot.

There are 10000 combinations and it is due to the way BV use the  habit of display  1.09 and then 1.1, and not 1.10 which make it complicated  reading the balance., and I have corrected some reading errors, and it can still be a few more.


I will correct the error and load up a corrected version tomorrow. Thanks for finding it.

Thanks!
I  may look at it, but feel free to make scripts, the bot works with JavaScript or VBScript. How the script should be implemented is to find at this forum. A simple webpage can be done for debugging. I will be happy to attach any good script to the collection.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 06, 2013, 06:16:10 AM
Hi

I have tried all day to make a movie of this, but the screen capture software and the bot conflict and I can't do it.  I just flat give up.  So I'll just post a screen shot and tell you I have gone up 133 Euro (fun Euro) today betting nickels.  The most I was down was about 100 Euro.  The test is to see if I can win 1,000 E in fun money and then go for real.

Sam

Sam!
Were you 1000 or 10000 units down?   

Quote from: Gizmotron on February 05, 2013, 09:13:43 AM
Well if you don't mind me saying, but you are the one talking about not being able to use trends. I don't see where that is my problem.

You may not see it. The game is a game of chance, denying the part of luck in success is GF, you do not need a brain to win, you have better use of luck. Trends is a creation of the mind not the wheel, and it is hard to make anyone understand that. It is in fact one of the properties of addiction to think anything else. You can use any but the worse methods and win. If it is a skill game, everbody will win after buying or finding the knowledge, and that is not the case.

Quote from: intermax on February 05, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
Hi Ralph, what is the safe bankroll to play EC in this way?
In reply #2, the bet size is 766 units which is not a fib no, how do you get this figure?
Thanks a lot

Yes it s not fib, it happens I bet a wrong amount during the way, and then have to stick to the adding the two last anyhow.


I seldom use EC bet, If you bet using fib on an EC, the bankroll needs to be rather large. On BV I get 10000 units at 100 Euro. It is not a "safe" way, you take quite high risk using it.

It is really easier to talk than do! Some talk some do!

Quote from: Bayes on February 05, 2013, 07:11:37 AM
Gizmo,

Can you spell it out for us dumbos? 

I get the whole trend thing, and it's true that every big opportunity starts as a micro opportunity, but the problem is, why should the amount you lose while jumping on all all the micro opportunities be less than what you win when finally the big opportunity comes along? In other words, each false start eats into your bankroll, so you might be down 20 units before the winning run arrives. When it does arrive, will it be long enough to pay off your debts and make a profit? not in my experience trying this approach. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.

It makes the day, but all other "minor" losses before will often eat it. If you are lucky to be able to go to the table limit, and not lose before, you may have got a proper win, the chance that happen is small, but we can all be lucky. It has happen to me,it is rare cases. Positive is not worse than negative, the last gives win, small a lot of times, before it can all go, the first eats slowly your money, but can give a big win.  Somehow can a positive progression experience feel better, the smaller losses can be replaced over time week by week, the big loss feels something harder, a (large) bankroll in one or a few spins. Both ways can win or lose, in the longer run the loss is very likely.

Quote from: Biagle on February 04, 2013, 08:55:07 PM
hi, Ralph


im running windows 7, intel i3, 4gb of ram


i run your bot, load the casino window, select system, enter unit size and it places one bet ant after what stops.


Any ideas?

Have you read the instructions and watch Sam's  video, if notpls  do that first.

Quote from: JohnLegend on February 03, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
Exactly Sam. When its real hard earned money. We are far more cautious and jittery about taking risks. When its fun money we don't have that reserve. And as ralph and others have found out. It then becomes easier to see and find ways of beating this game.

Its like game shows, in the UK often the people that go all the way are the ones who don't really need the money. So they're prepared to take those extra risks. The ones who are watching every penny can't afford to risk 50k to win a million.

Its the mind that stops us REALLY going forward with this game. It really is.

Even with odds on our side we do not always gambling. If somebody want to toss a coin and say your 40 dollar watch against  80 dollars cash,most of us  will take the bet. If the other say your 10000 dollar car against 14000 dollar, only gamblers will take it, and if it is your all property including the house worth  500 000 dollar against 600 000 dollars, near nobody would take the bet.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 03, 2013, 03:23:09 PM
I've run hundreds of simulations like this.  Look at your draw down.  Two questions:

1.  Would you really stick with it long enough to invest that kind of money?
2.  Would you hit the table limit?

The answers are usually no and yes.

A simple Martingale on Red will show similar results over thousands of spins with unlimited bankroll and no table limits.

Sam

Would you play as the robot with your own money?  The reason we win  more in simulation and fun, is we do not face the risk to lose much, and can set a bankroll higher than with real money.


If I lose 200 Euro I stop and wait a few weeks before I play real again, that's because I want not lose much, and not give previous winning back. Should I stop winning for a longer period, I would assume I it is no use play more and keep the winnings I got.


In fun mode as soon the winnings come, you can take more risks and then it is possible to win astronomic some times. Hard to implement real. The pic is fun for the last ten days, the real is about 30 Euro plus for the same time ( got two losses together 100 Euro).

The patterns are frequent, but that is for example a chop on an EC too. The point is if you can use the stuff to win. A progression can delay a loss,( I know), but if the selected pattern is not more frequent than it statistical would, a losing streak is just a matter of time. So there is a reason the method can not win for ever, and a reason it can lose heavy. Ignatius you can win for a while, you can win much too, but  at a point you will find it has its own flow and flaw.  Why are there so many methods? The answer is they are used until the optimistic user get problems using it.


The method as such will not let you win (an important issue) Its is lucky path of the numbers, which can make any method winning, but of course, time will tell, and that is the only predicable we got here. It will come an end to the better outcomes, that's for sure.


There are those saying about the same as I do, and using a similar fallacy them self, many players who temporary has luck using a method has hard to admit the lower value of the method, and the higher value of theire luck.  At least you should be aware of the risks and problems before you play real. It is a game of chance, you can win and you can lose, most lose at the end.
I have said this before, and as usual it is not anything which can be said with success, most want to learn the hard way. 

Quote from: spike on February 02, 2013, 10:39:44 PM
Yup. What rule says you have to sit? Especially when
playing the EC's.  You can be anywhere as long as you can
see the marquee. I've never sat at a table and played,
that to is for tourists.

Same here and in many places in Europe. There are a few seats and more players, we leave the seats for the ladies. Some walk between tables and bet on more than one, or check which table suits theire way of playing. Some tables people sit as very few play them as it can be 50 Euro min.

50 more and black increase! back 18 units.  It is so many spins done now it should take a visit on a casino to play the number.  How can we use history for our bets? Hardly not short statistic.
This was one test just, so we have to count it as that.


I do not like to end a session losing, I will use other ways to at least break even.

50 more spins and this time no zero and two more red, back 6 units.


Next 50 will come.