Casinos allowing you to bet 0.01 and have such a spread have difficult to allow free spins. There are players try the simple and naive GF like run a bot for days, and just bet after say 16 reds in a row a martingale on the opposite. Some bots are market with recommendations this is a sure way winning.
This takes resources in bandwidth, and long records on the history records. It is for sure not to stop people winning, as it is not a sound and working strategy anyhow. Millions of calls to the server and not any play. Mutual betting can create problems withdrawing at least if it is to wagering for bonus.


I have no use for free spins at all.

Quote from: spike on January 31, 2013, 09:49:21 PM
Gee, sorry about being so uninformed but we haven't
had online casinos in the US since 2006 and I have no way
to be informed about them. I obviously can't get an
account, so as to my orig question. Is demo mode the
same results in real time as the play for real mode, or
is it different? Demo usually means demonstration mode,
which usually means its recorded outcomes from an earlier
time that they have hand picked for the demo.

Foe the reason I have access to fun and real mod I have not look deeply into this, but I have the impression it is not a recorded game. I think it is the same game as real and fun, they have it for trying before decide to open an account.

Quote from: wannawin on January 31, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
Is it possible to use the bot of Mr. Ralph for this purpose?

It is not a very sure way, the bot is not reading 100% if the stakes are high. I will when time permit try to fix that.
The bot reads the number right, but in some cases the communication with the flash has error in displying the numbers under the casino.

It can go for long time, but it as well can bust fast. If it just win enough before you will have some from it. The bust is a matter of time, believing anything else is ignorance. All game has risks. So it is possible you will win, and maybe a lot, it is possible you will lose a lot too.  Use funds you can spare!

Quote from: spike on January 31, 2013, 04:03:13 PM

The one thing you constantly hear about online
casinos from experienced players is, you see things
on a regular basis that you rarely see in actuals
from a real casino. I know I frequently laugh out
loud when I play RNG's f fun at online casinos. I
can make bets in fun mode and I win for awhile, and
then its like somebody throws a switch, I can't win
at all. Its hilarious, its fun mode, at least let me feel
good in practice!

I would love to test BV but I don't have an account
and there is no fun mode. There is a demo mode,
but is that current results or a recording? Demo
usually means its recorded for demonstration purposes.

You are not well informed (as usual) The fun mode at BV is exactly as real mode, and you log in get the history and everthing which is in real. There is a demo mode which you can use too, but then no history. You need an account to play real and fun, the demo mod does not need an account.

Sam!


We know it, but use 7 numbers!!

This has all of a a RFH the progression went very high just two hits in very  a long sequence. I got down under the starting bankroll with 100000 units, the same as the target for this session.  I did not reset after the first hit, I was near to break even. I took the chance to make a bigger win, as I expect it should hit again soon, and it did.


The net become double than planned.


Result is 231737 units.  We can hardly say I played 0.01 this session, but it was 0.01 which is the units in the very long progression, which could end and bust first at a bet of  35000 units and about  1200000 in loss.


The highest bet was 23300 units, as I did not reset after a win with small plus/minus.


Would I do the same in real mode?  Yes if I had beforehand decided to risk that amount, I have probably not done that decision, if we are large on plus, in the total game, we want to stand there.

This progressions went far, I had some winnings before, but pressed it and got a long losing streak, ended whith two hits close to eatch other.


1965 spins.  Plus is  55731. Drawndown at most 30000.

Quote from: Bayes on January 31, 2013, 10:12:26 AM
Interesting. This was always playing the no-zero wheel? Your results have certainly given the RNG bashers pause for thought.

I got my best winnings on NZ, at that time the 10% tax was at withdraw the money, then they change it so I am not sure the NZ is better. The lowest is 5 times and the highest is lower than Zero wheel.  The risk of table limit is much larger at NZ. The main thing is to avoid a bust, when using progressions, and I sometimes think we are not better off hesitate to go until win or bust. So I want to have as many units as possible, that's's why I start low units.

Quote from: Bayes on January 31, 2013, 08:25:57 AM
Ralph, when you first started playing on BV, how much did you put into the account?

Just wondering whether you started with a HUGE bankroll.

First time 200 Euro, which ended with a withdraw of 1000 Euro. I was using Neteller and they hold my money (BV paid) for three years without any valid reasons. At last I got them when the Euro was 30% down to the SEK.



I started using 3000 Euro second time using another moneyservice. That time I was ready to lose it to 75% chance, and play aggressive. I got very god winning streaks and went up dramatically. Now I play more carefully as I know I can lose it back.


I use to play 0.01 to be able to wait for the winning streaks, sometimes the bets can go up to a few Euro and even 20 Euro in long sessions.  I have had deep drawdowns, but most of the time not too scary, if it starts with winnings a down of 10000 units may be close to the starting bankroll.


The play has gone well, but we never know, a few loss in a row can take quite a bit. It can probably not for all time be possible to stay ahead against the odds, may be long enough. I have to play real silly to loseit all back, it may come a day I have better quit playing.

The only way a casino will be sure of make a profit, is to follow the rules, take the profit from the advantages of the odds.
All other ways is gambling from the casino point, and casinos do not gamble, that's the players role. The casinos are big grinders 2.7% on a very fast turn over with virtually no risk. Just the rumor of dishonest will cost them in less profit.


A casino banning a honest player, show they do not believe the profit is for sure as long either the casinos or the players cheating.  The restrictions in winning and table limit are there to guarantee the cash flow, and be able to pay the winners any time.

This run was expected to come at least once  in the test. It was only three hits on the street in 266 spins, one of them very early given the balance 33 plus. I continue the progressions to near 200 steps, and the drown down was about 80000 units. The two hits at the end gave a good plus. I were from start aware of this, and as it come late in the test, it was not near to be any danger for the bankroll, 50000 under start.  We see if that had been worse, as it can, we can lose.


It do not need to come two close hits after a long sleep, but it is that we relay of.



New plus is 40258.   1738 spins done.

I adjusted the progression to somewhat more aggressive, as a hit sometimes never seems to catch up.
This was anyhow not down more than the previous, which had problem catching up.


1426 spins and  25255 units a quarter of the way to 100000 units.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 30, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
Ralph

Is Quantis what BV uses?  Answer this and I'll leave you be.

Sam

Yes they use Quantis.

1066 spins  20001 units plus.  Progression may sometimes be a bit slow, which not always recover a drowndown in a cycle hitting, which make the sessions long.