I have investigated many way to play just one number. I have found it is possible to do rather well using a method can wait long for a streak or cluster.
Numbers are not hitting at the average rate, they sleep and wake up, sometimes the cluster and hit back to back. 


Can the method stand a 400 sleeper and still win the session? Most methods are designed to win in the first about 70-100 spin if not earlier, and are sometimes heavy in progression, which cost a lot in an event of failure.


The method I use is to count with a not average outcome, the number used, can come out in a higher rate than average, and then we are soon winning, like a pivot.  If it comes out less than average we must wait for a change, and bet flat until it hit, even if it takes 100 or even much more spins. When it hit, we check if we have minus in the bankroll, and if we add an unit to the bet and continue until next hit. We do the same check, if the bankroll is minus we add another chip, if on plus and want to continue we go down to one unit.


I have done a lot of trials, won all. With that I do not say it can not lose, every way of meeting the game is not bullit proof, so yes it can lose. I think it will be rare to lose, I have survived 400+ sleepers. 


It takes time, and sometimes gain just a few. The point playing it is not to win much, it is to stay a head and not lose.  As it take many spins the method is suited for on line play, and a bot can be used, so I did a script.


Here is the numbers of last session 504 spins to get  116 units. The drawdown was max about 160. The higest progression 4, and for a small part of the session, most were one unit bet.






8,32,13,21,14,27, 2,19,13,22,23,17, 9,10,31,21, 4,11, 7,26, 1,28, 9,20, 8,33,12,12,28, 8,23,35,13, 1,27,31,30,14,26,35,32,29,33,20, 4,14,32,10,28, 2,25,26,20,17,20, 9,16, 3,18,11,31, 5, 7, 6,32,21, 5,17,25,35,26,24,22,21,35,36, 9,17, 8,28,25,24,14, 2,33, 2,27,32, 5,27,11, 9,35,32,31, 9, 2,16,33,17,27,33,25,17, 7,27,23,22, 0, 6,26, 1, 3, 1, 2,22,33,33,36,32, 9, 5,16,19, 8,28,23,32, 6,22, 2,11,24,29, 4, 0, 8,21,21,25,23,23,15,21,33,16, 6, 7, 8,10,19,28,34,30,20,33,36, 4,34,12,35,28,13, 4,18, 4,24,18,31,35,33, 6,27, 0, 1,10,11,32,19,31,26,14,12,11,17,32,14, 7,36,14, 4,17,31,18,28, 1,30,26,26, 6,12, 8, 3,34, 0, 5,14,19, 8,18,20,23, 4,30,23,33,24, 0,21,17,20, 1, 8,34,17,21,11,21, 3,14,20,32,10,16,19,25, 3,30,13, 8,34, 6, 5,36,16,14,33, 7, 3, 7,31,15, 6,33, 7,21,30,11, 3,24, 5,17, 3,12,19,23,12, 1,22, 2, 1, 6,26,17,16,22,19,28,35,25,33, 4, 7, 8,12, 4,13,19,30,34,32, 6,10, 4, 8, 5,24,14, 1,23,10,11, 5, 5,20,17,27, 4,22,28, 3, 2, 9,17,28, 0,19,24,22,17, 0,28,30,23,36,34,31,21,23, 6, 1, 8,20, 5,27, 1,33,27, 1, 6,25,29,36, 1, 3,16,30,11,36,36, 8,23,32,21,19,14, 3, 0,13, 8,36,14,34,22,32,22,34, 5,34,10,17,23,35,32, 3,13,11,22, 4,13,22,23, 4,22,16,29,12,36,16, 5, 5, 7,27,19, 7, 7,16, 1, 2,13, 3,11, 5, 5,26,20, 0,22, 8,31,24,25,12, 9,23, 5,11, 3,24,25,26, 1,35,18,17,18,25,25, 4,13,25,34,27,16, 3,21,24, 0,17,36,16, 6,20, 2, 6,16,11, 7,21,20,36, 0,23,33,26,32, 6, 0,19, 4,25,10, 2, 4,27, 4,25, 5, 3,15,16,30,33,34,27,32,35, 1,20,15,26,26,23, 2, 2,27,34,16,23,25,11,26,23, 9,28,11,22, 2, 8, 0,19, 3,26, 0,


We can see the zero which I bet was sleeping, and after many spins come alive. It was on safe  territory long time, but I went for at least 100.

Thanks Sam!
I wish I could make videos like you!
My sound in the computer is so I can not hear it, some failure with the computer or my ears. As soon the snow storm is over I will go and buy what's needed to hear the sound well.


Thanks again!

Quote from: topcat888 on December 02, 2012, 06:15:01 PM
Can anyone recommend a Flat Betting System that actually works, I don't mind a grinder but it must win more than it loses (obviously)..?

Any thoughts..?

There are some good flat betting system, but none which match your specification (obviously).

I do not remember the link, it is searchable, and that you can do as easy as me.

It is still problem with Vista, I do not know if I should for the moment try to solve it. Many have allready given up Vista as a problem making version of Windows  and got Window 7 or later.  I may spend some time on it but with lower priority.


The testers are now 14.

I think Bayes can answer, I stole this from him.


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I just did a run, this time it were often a loss on the last high bet. it went back 60 units. Slowly it come back at it needed  384 spins to get to target of ten plus. 


As it is a limit in progression, it is not so i would go better with a stop loss at 50, I had to start with 50 less next time and do the same climbing. In this it is other things indicating a stop. As you think you have to wait until a better point, all as you use to read the game. I use to run until I got other things waiting, and not even so the bot can run. If I lost 5000 unit I would change to other ways.  I have run this for about 50 rounds and got around ten each time. It takes time, and suit online better. At a BM casino you must have plus faster or stop.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 02, 2012, 08:26:56 AM
Victor

Thanks for you very plain explanation.  The part I don't understand is what if you win at 5 5, then at 7 7 and then lose the 10 10.  Do you just start over at 5 5?  That is, you have won 5 units, then 7 units for a total of 12 units.  Then you lose 20.  You're down 8.  Do you just eat it and move on?

Sam

Sam1


that's the way I do. I raise as long  I win and goes back on loss or 5 in progression (I stop on 5). Yes you can lose the last bet, as you can lose any bet. The point is to hope for a streak, you do not always lose the last  5 bet.   


I have coded it and use it some, it will not be win/loss as some inside methods, You can have a smaller bankroll. target is 10 units when I use it.

Up to now it seems to go well on windows 7, one using vista can not even open the program. I have used it  on vista and it was working. Vista use to be a pain for many programmers. Microsoft did  vista  due to security problems in Windows, and released a version which last short time, the windows 7 come rather fast.
Some had to update the net framework.  There is some issues still for some computers.

I am not used to Excel, seldom use it, but it would be possible to use Visual Basic for Forms import the excel and so make it a stand alone program.


If you not have go to Microsoft and download Vs Express for Desktop, a free one.

Just a few, as I concentrate on the bot.  It is not sure all scripts are correct either.  It is the scripts which I have posted on this and other fora.
Scripters are welcome to write scripts for the bot.  I will do more work with the scripts as soon I know the bot has no problem running everywhere.


The tested scripts is my own M7, one of Kens 4hot and the  method RB passed 200k spins. There is a few old classic.

I have ten different testers of the bot, and this for checking out how different computers run it. And to find problems I may not have seen on my computer.
Already on thing which not happen on my computer is reported. The bot did not stop at the win target always. I got a good report so it was easy fixed.


I will later extend testers, and I hope it can be out to everybody rather soon.

Quote from: Ophis on November 30, 2012, 02:01:08 PM
Exacly.

DEFINE what are you seeing and we will be able to code it and automate it.

...i don't really get the GUT approach... gut feeling is only how your brain analyses what it sees basing on past observations of similar events.

not saying that this is gut .... but seeing what is dominant can also be defined.

The human brain is hard coded! 

May be not yet, but it in fact possible. The chances are small but even 10000 is not impossible, I am waiting.

Jl I just said yhat I wrot, the odds are so it will not happen always, if the whole world used it they will not win at your rate. It is not at all impossible to win 1000 times in a row, not common anyhow.