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The math shows figures which  are well known,  the 2.7% disadvantages in the play, We see these figures that we have seen before, a mathematical study of a game way usually give this results.  If I should use PB, my expectaion would be worse! The outcome may differ.

I am  have doubts. They are not allowed to use in Nevada, but many casinos in Europe do not mind a computer or other devices as long they do not disturb the game or other players. How could they stay in business if this devices  works? I have seen people using computer a few meters from the table openly, and they let him do so.

The programming language is often not hard to learn. The way to tanslate anything  into the code is the harder part, any can do that, can fast use any programming language.  Put everthing apart in smaller steps is the way to start, then put it all together.
Start with so simple thing which sounds very easy, like very simple additions, count the letters in a word, give value to a variable.
The reason I chose javascript to my bot, is it can be coded in many ways and levels, from "spagetti" code to pure OOP. For a program to test roulette it does not matter if the code is elegant, the main  thing it is works and gives right output.


A language with a larger  class lib is also a good choise, as the "ready made" is well tested, and we do not need to invent the wheel once again.

I never clicked the link, but nobody can take patent on a way of playing, you can protect a collection in a book. But never claim the sole right to use a method.  Patent and copyright can never be on a method which follow the rules of a 300 years play.

Quote from: albalaha on November 22, 2012, 04:31:14 PM
         We are only talking of things on record i.e. zumma and working on  tough numbers/ bet selections with a systematic approach. There is a world of difference between hypothesis and reality and this reality is lying open to world.
        I wonder how Ophis talk about testing a billion spins (he can not be serious here) and you talk of "only number 3 in all 15000 spins (that is not possible with even trillion spins). Wake up guys.

Why is it not possible, it will be one outcome every time you spin 15000. That what is posted will never come back in in trillions of spins or are as unlikley to come back as you get 15000 number 3 in a row. This is a fact. 

Every 15000 spins has equal chance, the posted numbers are as uniqe as 15000 number 3  . Hard for many to take even if they should understand it. It is 1/37 multply 15000 times, a large number(or better small), but still all has the same probabillity. It is the human brain making the 15000  number 3 more uniqe than any other outcome.

Every sets are different, the 15000 spins supplied are equal uniqe as if it were only number 3 in all 15000 spins.

I have no time for it, but as the numbers are known before the play, it  may be possible to  design a method for the spins, and if it will be possible it is still not sure it will past 15k other spins.

A roulette bot is dependet of reading the casino screen. It is almost impossible to make a robot working at any casino. My bot is made for Betvoyager Zero Wheel at the first hand. It will work on BV NOZero wheel as well, if the scripts not are written so it bet on zero as a default bet. It will count the balance and stop at win target on the NoZero wheel as well, but it will place 0.5 instead of 0.01 chips. As the balance at the casino account is read by the program, rather than a chip count it works on the NoZero, using the same scripts.  This feature makes the scripting much easier as well.


The multiball table will not work, as the program is not designed to read more than one winning number. You could use the multiball manual and let the bot place the bet, but it can not recognice the winning numbers. If you set the game to one ball it will work, but that is of minor use as it is the very same as the zero table.  The American table will not work if any bets are placed on zero or double zero, it can not understand and read the zero hits.


The first release the program will read the balance up to a certain amount in the range of 0.01 to 100 Euro a session. Higher values will be implementet later in coming versions. As most players use less than 100 Euro in one session, I will not let the program be delayed for that reason.


The program is ready, but I have to make test on many different computers first, it is not for sure a program works in all cases just because it works on the developers computer.  As said before the NET FRAMWORK have to be in the Windows, and I have not tested it on other platforms  with emulator for Windows. I  have to write a users manual as well.


The size of the program is about 2 megatbytes.  It will run in variable speed, most of the scripts will run a spin in about four seconds, and it can take a bit longer if for example 200 chips is to be placed.  It has a  slider which the user can slow down the speed or make it run faster. Depending on the scripts it is not always possible to run at the  maximum speed.


The program is designed to run on 32 and 64  computers, there are not different versions.  The program as such will never access the disk on the computer, If the casino cache or set cookies the program will not interfere, the usual settings for the computer security is used. The  security setting may ask the user for permission to access internet, which is to navigate to the casino.  The log in at the casino is the default page at the casino, the program can never  know this entries. The bot use the webbased version of the casino, not the exe version, and it is an instance of IExplorer which host the casino. A newer version should be present at the computer(It is included in Windows).


As the bot must force the casino window to not open in a new window, we should not use the program for navigating around, if we want to see the history, make deposits or other tasks, we shall do it using the ordinary webbrowser.  The program navigate to the casino main homepage, there we login at the default place, and then chose the game on the page. As soon a game is opened, we should try to not navigate so an other window will be forced to not open, it can be confusing for the casinos stylesheets or scripts.

Is a difficult issue, free to speak yes! if it is wrong Yes" but all  this   males, who can not take any critics, and instantly feel offended, is something we here can buy a book about.

We live in a world there some males are frustrated. We live in a word of change. The new order is from east

1. Shangahai  2, Mumbay  3.Goodbye) 4. Bad Guy

At my age I have got the best part (according to my location) than any in history and that's will be valid until I pass off!

The step from a tracker to a script which works in a robot is not far. The tracker has done  the special work for a method, the (ro)bot takes care of the betting at the table, the win target and the stop/loss.  My bot is designed to take any imageable methods with a script wich never is harder to code than a tracker.  The bot will be supported, but it is up to you to have the sytem (Windows) updated, whith NET 4.0.
I can not spend time to support your configurations. Any newer windows will work (from vista) if you own a legal copy which are updated manually every week or auto as soon needed, it will run good. You need 500 mb RAM to run fast, 300 is min. Older computers will work, but not old OS (for between  two or  five years witout updating) NET FRAMEWORK IS MANDATORY!

All version of Windows do not have it, it is free from Microsoft site.  If you are unsure, an easy way is to download  Visual basic Express  2012 which is free, and always give the NET framework for your Windows version.

And see just one post in a section by the moderator, there will be no diff.  Hopefully the posts increase!!


Where is the spell checker, a spellchecker makes many good posts, the world speak english more or less, and a lot posts will not be here as they are badly jugded because of  "poor" language, we must live whith some problem, use English, even of most can do better with a native, but it is the Babylon split in work

Do not do the same always, but return always.  I win for a while, and stop/change, for a time and then take  from shelf what's has been working.


that's the reason I never run long tests, I try to find something to try real. The test can be good, and bust first time real. Better then to play it from begining, and store it before it has the losing period.  We never know the outcome, but many know things work for a while.

In Javascript the Array is a powerful tool.
If we do not know how many entries it will be, we can add at the end.


var arr = new Array();


A new  slot at the end is easy  to set   arr[arr.length] = "the new"


The array can be used as a stack using pop() which remove the last.


You can remove any, using other ways. Check on the net, very much there try http://www.w3schools.com witch amied to websites, but easy transformed to the use as roulette script. 


The use of indexOf  can tell if a number is red  just a string whith the red numbers is checked.


The language is used much one web applications, and that from private sites to banks and casinos, a very good and flexible language, which is not hard to learn. You do not need to master all, it is a forgiven language, handle from "spagetticode" to full OOP.

How we know it is live, in that way it is not recorded. At dublin they use a casino there people  from the street enter and play, if you know somebody present the can confirm the same numbers.  And even wave to you.  You can tip the dealer.

I use bevoyager and dublinbet, Betvoyager as the have the 100% foolproof they do not cheat and they pay. The spread is from 1 cent to 1000 Euro on EC, 1 cent to 100 Euro on inside.  For sure there are other good casinos as well.  Dublin is from a real casino with players in the casino, so it is live in all aspects.  If you play fun tokens both let you have an account with fun tokens, so you keep a balance over time, not just get 1000 points every time you log in, for longer testing that's nice.