Back in 1984, Frank Barstow published, "Beat the Casino".  Within the book, there should be a hot number method with the name Pyramid System.
If you have, could you post that particular method or send me a private message.

I can give something really good in return.

Cheers Patrik From Sweden

Taking Statistical Calculated Risk With Sports Betting Service

I have a gambling bankroll for Casino games with amounts at different online casinos.
Now I pull out 500 Euro to put into Sports Betting.

I pay 19 Euro for one Tipster with 112% ROI each month.
Now I been active for five days and are plus 140 Euro.
Placing 10 Euro bets flat betting and risking 2% of the bankroll.
That is 50 Units.

Now Koetsch simulated 50/50 without edge for 60.000 placed bets.
He simulated 100 placed bets sessions.

The worst drawdown during 600 x 100 placed bets sessions was minus 34 units.
And the average loss during 100 placed bets session was minus 8 units.

That means I have a pretty good chance to make 1000 Euro risking 2% of the bankroll ( 50 Units).
So when I reach 750 Euro I will start flat betting 15 Euro until I reach my goal.

After that I not sure what to do - I have three options.

1) I can bet the recommendation 1% of bankroll with 1000 Euro flat betting 10 Euro.
2) I can continue risking 2% of bankroll and bet 20 Euro flat betting.
3) I can regress and play with the sportsbooks own money without risking my own.

Option two feel tempting to reach maybe 2000 Euro
Option three feel like a stable small income with no risks involved, where you can boost a % to make the bankroll slowly grow and pull out money each year as return on investment.
Option one feels like a long term strategy where you slowly grow your bankroll with small risk.

Cheers Patrik

I just want to show a selection method that fail 6 times during 100 sessions and still you won all 100 sessions.
This is theory and you use the following information at your own risk.

INTRODUCTION:

This means that if you can lose the selection 6 times and still win and a total of 100 sessions, then during a year that would be around 20 losing selections for 365 sessions.
The probability dictate it can be done.

There are 365 days for one year and the interest banks give you equal zero.
365 Euro playing 1 Euro minimum, pretty good interest.
3650 Euro playing 10 Euro minimum, closer to the stock market return for the average investor.

What I would like to do is to calculate a higher base bet and then when winning half the amount regress and using half of the original unit size.
That way you only risk your money for a one-half year and then operate with casino money for the next half year.

Problems with this idea are that the cost is very expensive for the whole parachute
One could reduce the cost and win half the amount the last steps of the parachute.

Mr. J inspired me into this field of the selection process.
Here is a selection that won 100 sessions using a Parachute Method.

1) One single number that hit within 25 attempts are equal an even money bet.

Hot & Cold

Assume you have two reds in a row or two blacks in a row.
Then for the next two bets, you have 3 in 4 to hit a winning bet.

For example:

RR / RR Win
RR / RB Win
RR / BR Win
RR / BB Lose

That is the Hot selection where one color repeat.

Now reverse.
Assume you have RR and get BB then you lose both bets.
Then you have 3 in 4 ways to get one opposite color.
A sleeping color or Cold selection.

BB / RR Win
BB / RB Win
BB / BR Win
BB / BB Lose

Now numbers and the Parachute Method.
Assume one number hit twice within 50 attempts.
Then that is the same thing getting two reds.
So for the next 50 attempts, you play that this number will repeat once.

Assume you lose, then you have two losing bets during 50 attempts, also equal two blacks.
Now you play 50 attempts that you will get at least one opposite of that particular number.

Now you bet the Parachute Method until you win once and then start over the tracking and charting process.
So even if the single number would fail to show during 100 attempts, so can the Parachute Method win.

1. 21
2. 7
3. 34
4. 30
5. 7
6. 26
7. 36
8. 32
9. 18
10. 6
11. 6
12. 34
13. 49
14. 43
15. 13
16. 8
17. 11
18. 42
19. 6
20. 50/8
21. 33
22. 5
23. 34
24. 7
25. 14
26. 4
27. 18
28. 24
29. 37
30. 33
31. 36
32. 50/21
33. 50/18
34. 50/50 target number fail but parachute win
35. 34
36. 50/50 target number fail but parachute win
37. 50/6
38. 3
39. 50/50 target number fail but parachute win
40. 1
41. 9
42. 9
43. 3
44. 35
45. 50/50 target number fail but parachute win
46. 40
47. 50/48
48. 50/15
49. 37
50. 21
51. 50/36
52. 50/50 target number fail but parachute win
53. 50/17
54. 38
55. 48
56. 6
57. 50/36
58. 50/49
59. 7
60. 14
61. 21
62. 50/44
63. 7
64. 19
65. 21
66. 50/50 target number fail but parachute win
67. 34
68. 25
69. 7
70. 9
71. 29
72. 11
73. 26
74. 9
75. 50/45
76. 2
77. 15
78. 14
79. 23
80. 50/7
81. 50
82. 12
83. 42
84. 15
85. 18
86. 27
87. 50/26
88. 6
89. 50/20
90. 13
91. 50/41
92. 50/19
93. 11
94. 6
95. 9
96. 3
97. 2
98. 39
99. 50/32
100. 50/12

1. EC

2. Dozen
3. Dozen

4. Line
5. Line
6. Line
7. Line

8. Corner
9. Corner
10. Corner
11. Corner
12. Corner
13. Corner

14. Street
15. Street
16. Street
17. Street
18. Street
19. Street
20. Street
21. Street

22. Split
23. Split
24. Split
25. Split
26. Split
27. Split
28. Split
29. Split
30. Split
31. Split
32. Split
33. Split

34. Single
35. Single
36. Single
37. Single
38. Single
39. Single
40. Single
41. Single
42. Single
43. Single
44. Single
45. Single
46. Single
47. Single
48. Single
49. Single
50. Single
51. Single
52. Single
53. Single
54. Single
55. Single
56. Single
57. Single
58. Single

59. Single
60. Single
61. Single
62. Single
63. Single
64. Single
65. Single
66. Single
67. Single
68. Single
69. Single
70. Single
71. Single
72. Single
73. Single
74. Single
75. Single
76. Single
77. Single
78. Single
79. Single
80. Single
81. Single
82. Single
83. Single

84. Single
85. Single
86. Single
87. Single
88. Single
89. Single
90. Single
91. Single
92. Single
93. Single
94. Single
95. Single
96. Single
97. Single
98. Single
99. Single
100. Single

Yesterday in the casino I test my new twist to catch strikes spotting bias sequences.
I was using Regression Up & Pull and got a quick 20% return on investment and quit.

Getting away flat betting riding strikes alone, but I want out more when I strike 5,6,8 times in a row.
Not satisfied with the known positive progressions, so if you know a variant that is not listed, plz let me know.

1) Regression Up & Pull
2) Win two flat betting and increase one-half unit - up as you win
3) Paroli
4) 1326
5) Guetting

Now I look at some craps videos on youtube and the Dice Doctor has a nice positive progression with a twist.
First, you bet 1 unit and if you win you increase and bet 2 units.
Assume you win both bets and are up 3, then you staking 1,5 next if a win you bet 3 and that sum up to 4,5.
Then next you bet 2,5 and if you win 5 then you have 7,5 and place 4 next.
Push for more at the same time as you regress, very clever.

Cheers

Sequence:

You have heard about a choppy table where singles and series of two-strike for several times in a row.
Also probably heard about streaky tables where one color strikes for several times in a row.

The Median Value:

I have been measuring singles versus a series of three and find a middle value between both, the cut point median value.
Two singles have 50% probability to happen versus a series of three in a row.
A series of three have 50% probability to happen versus two singles in a row.

Singles and Multiples

A single outcome is on isolated event of one color hit and multiples is at least a series of two or more in a row.
With this method and strategy series of two works as break even bets in both directions, no matter is singles or series dominate.
Series of two are neutral.

Enter and Exit points:

Entering points for observation to see one state or wave of one sequence to hit once or several times in a row.
Starts with either two singles or a series of three or higher.

Clarification, after you see two singles you have 50% probability they will continue to strike several times in a row.
After seeing a series of three or higher you will have 50% probability the series will continue to strike for several times in a row.

Summary:

Now you can see variance and read the even money like an open book.

Streaky sequence:

P
P
P

B

P
P

B
B
B
B
B

P
P

B
B
B

Choppy sequence:

P

B

P

B
B

P
P

B

P
P


B

P

B
B

Note:

When tracking and charting singles and multiplies you can use the letters S for singles and M for multiplies.
The Choppy Sequence is different than others as you can play one side by itself without making any bets on the opposite side.
That is a good option for playing Player side with no fee, also worked great with Trading and Sportbetting.

  Hello Alrelax, what is your loss limit and how do you handle your money playing with positive progression.
How and when do you stop playing?

For example, sometimes you make a few units as the strike comes later during the game and sometimes you strike in beginning and win serious money. Do you stop playing in both situations?

Cheers
     

Gambling Perspective!

When you are trading you use one side of the coin.
You aim for the ups and avoid the downs.

That is the same thing as playing one side with Baccarat.
For example, playing only Player side.

Is very rare or not existed discussion on gambling forums where you tackle only one side of the coin.
If someone solves the puzzle you would be trading expert, sports betting expert, baccarat expert, and roulette expert.

Cheers

Does anyone have good experience using online casino that allows Bitcoin?

Cheers

Bankroll 1000$
Flat betting 20$ units.

Total 50 units.
Tipster Daniel
ROI 116.34%

Period 183 Days

What happen to Stephen R. Tabone topic about his book?

Cheers

Roulette 30 forum is down - can not connect - do you have same issue?

Cheers

With sportbetting and stock market you have hedge - reducing risk management.
How would this apply to Roulette?

For example i am risking a bet and not winning, then i should turn around the situautaion and break even or still turn out winning bet but wilth less profit.

John Patrick has a hedge bet for roulette.
He only play low and black.
That way he has a break even situaion and one winning situtaion and 9 numbers against his bet.
So the bet cover 28 numbers.
Have no clue what he use as trigger or differential betting or not.
But is one example of a bet with Hedge qualites.

Other methodology.
Lee Tutor in his book and a member at roulette 30 forum have post a great way to Hedge Betting.

For example you see number 29 hit.
Then you bet high (EC) that 29 will repeat.
If two loses you bet dozen once.
Then if a loss a line bet 3 times more.
If a lose a corner bet and if a lose a street and if a lose split and if a  lose straight up.

Should also add one more that i Think is very common, when you use progression on two dozen, then you hedge betting on zero and accept overall smaller winnings.

Bayes also using Hege betting - reduce risk management.
When he play with his winning method on EC he use diversification.
If i remember it correct he apply it with his MM approch.

Any opinions or suggestions!

The Perfect Gambling Solution!

How about combine both roulette system with advantage play, physics.
A hybrid using the best of two Worlds.

Cheers

This new forum look is discusting!
I have never seen such a ugly forum look!

Cheers

diversification is when you not put all eggs in one basket - how does that apply to roulette with bet selection and mm ...
you put your money at risk with wider spread to minimize the worst and extreme

cheers

If you try different windows with different options - then you will notice that you can not change settings with roulette extreme.
I have email Les about this - four times now and no fix or new update.

I can not test regression as i can not play minimum bets as i can not change settings with roulette extreme.
Just one example.

Look at this video and you will see what i mean.

How can he sell a Product that is not working.

https://youtu.be/pzMVoS4JvGM

 ND mention one old method for me and it made me think of a similiar method "Point & Figure".
You can download it from my dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fqb170zh36kx0v/pnf.pdf?dl=0

It speaks about how the flow comes in short Waves and larger Waves - as we know as choppy table or streaky table.
I have been testing this method with succés - that means that it has been pretty easy to win some during 1000 trails.
There is some variance and fluctation, but i assume all methods face that after 1000 trails and more.

This is how it looks with choppy tables:













https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwEFn7_OJIU

Ecart:

John Patrick mention one thing that strike my mind.
Does who has 2 to 5K or more look for other investment then roulette.

If this is true, then most members don't even have a solid bankroll.

Cheers

A father buys a lie detector robot that slaps people when they lie.
He decides to test it out at dinner one night.
The father asks his son what he did that afternoon.
The son says, "I did some schoolwork."
The robot slaps the son.
The son says, "Ok, Ok. I was at a friend's house watching movies."
Dad asks, "What movie did you watch?"
Son says, "Toy Story."
The robot slaps the son.
Son says, "Ok, Ok, we were watching porn."
Dad says,"What? At your age I didn't even know what porn was."
The robot slaps the father.
Mom laughs and says,"Well, he certainly is your son."
The robot slaps the mother.

I post this for my own reasons and share for does who might think like me
There is no patterns or bet selections or triggers that works
So what is the point betting or play the game if you can not win

I will do what Holloway did - a Gap Book - but maybe not for the same reason
Now i want to know the blending edge where something is due - i know nothings is - but i reckon that some event will not hit me during my life time
So i want to know what the extreme events is and play against them and see how i do

I have now a contact that code everything into Roulette Extreme, so i will not only create a Gap Book, i will also have the code for each and every method
Now i will post the result within this topic, but if you want the code you have to split the coust i pay for it

Cheers

 I explore progrssions that are smooth where you raise your bets with certain % where the expectations is imbalance ...
Test 1 1 1 1 2 2

Will look into what kind of progrssion that exist using this kind of methodology.
I get very nice result using this with the probaility 1 against 8 with my algorithm.

Note that i play every trail, so 200 trails is 200 placed bets.
This is as close i can get to flat betting today betting a game with negative expectation.

I will develop this futher - maybe it can become a baccarat method.

Don't tune or scoff out until you have digested the whole package, as one word may put you off, which is "Martingale", but hang on in here.

Lets throw in the sales pitch.

How to turn £75 into £5250 or $150 (for those across the ditch into over $10,000) for approx 28 hours of table action. Sound interesting?

YES, you do need a certain element of luck. Now we know you can't expect to be lucky all the time. You only need to be lucky for two hours. Yes TWO LOUSY HOURS from the on-set, you may not make it all the way, but it won't cost you anything either.

While people do not see eye to eye regarding bet selection, really it is a defensive mechanism, they need to convince themselves more than anybody else. In essence bet selection is a lottery. Each bet is a 50/50 bet, what happens after X is a lottery. No worries 'bout what you think, this can also suit your mindset.

Let's revisit a set of 4 column binary tables;

1---BBBB
2---PBBB
3---BPBB
4---PPBB
5---BBPB
6---PBPB
7---BPPB
8---PPPB
9---BBBP
10-PBBP
11-BPBP
12-PPBP
13-BBPP
14-PBPP
15-BPPP
16-PPPP

Note I have numbered all possible outcomes. Your aim using a 4 step martingale is to play 10 columns per day, less than ONE SHOE per day maximum and to avoid any 4 column loss.

For those that the progression Martingale leaves a bad taste, bear in mind, the total risk is the initial £75 or $150, if you can't afford to risk that amount, then read no further, or remind yourself of the 5 g's or 10k plus potential..

Your aim is to make 10 units per day (maybe 11 if you want to cater for the tax, or maybe you might choose to wear that small cost), not a dime more. Your aim is to repeat this for 7 days straight, remember, your exposure is minimum as you will not play more than 40 or 44 hands any one day. Any 4 column loss and you quit.

You need to avoid any 4 column loss for the first TWO DAYS ONLY, >> less than one shoe per day <<
Should you lose 4 hands on the bounce on the third day, you will still be in profit.

Should you manage to not lose for SEVEN days, on the second week, you double your unit size, should you lose when you double your unit size, you are still in profit. Again repeat the exercise for the next seven days.

NOTE* you can withstand two losses per week and still remain in profit, this excludes the first two days. Your odds of losing 4 bets in a row is less than 6%, which means your odds of winning a bet in any four bet sequence is just over 93%.

Should you manage to avoid any 4 column loss during the second week, again you double your unit value from £10 or $20, should you lose on day 15, you are still in profit. You just lost £300 but made £700 the previous week, how you determine the stake level for tomorrow is up to you, either drop down or press on, you can withstand 2 losing days per week.

If you have made it this far and only played 10 or 11 (due to tax) columns of 4 for the last 21 days and avoided defeat you double your betting amount for the final time.

NOTE* thus far this whole exercise has been SELF FUNDING.

Should you manage to avoid losing 4 in a row for the final week, you have just turned your initial stake of £75 into £5250 for approx 28 hours of table play, or $150 into over $10000, that's about 4 days work.

Week 1 - goal target £50 daily, weekly goal £350 - risk £75
Week 2 - goal target £100 daily, weekly goal £700 - risk £150
Week 3 - goal target £200 daily, weekly goal £1400 - risk £300
Week 4 - goal target £400 daily, weekly goal £2800 - risk £600

Maximum Total profit should you avoid 4L within 28 hours is £5250 less tax or for US based players over ten thousand dollars for a $150 stake. Other than the initial stake, IT IS SELF FUNDING.

Now take a deserved break and start again from the bottom. Does what you are currently playing carry a risk? Well so does this, so in this respect things are equal.

The risk is limited to £75 or $150, the rewards are greater than what you would ordinarily hope for given the amount of bankroll. If 100 players tried this, not all would be lucky, some would be. All that matters is surviving the first two days.

OK - the bet selection;

It really doesn't matter, either mathematically or logically.

If you believe in trending, then wait for one column of four and use the bet selection SAME. If you don't believe in trending maybe use the bet selection OPPOSITE. Random is probably the best.

If you don't care either way, maybe choose any one of the above 16 options and stick with it. Mathematically each sequence is suppose to occur once every 60 hands, be aware it doesn't always work out like this.

Maybe put the numbers I have associated with the 4 column options into a hat to determine your bet selection, it really doesn't matter. Perhaps omit the numbers 6 and 11 as these are the most common options for any 4 hand sequence. Don't lose sight of the total risk £75 or $150 and the potential reward.

Perhaps play each sequence in numerical order, that is bet option 1 followed by option 2 then option 3 etc. Logically it doesn't make any difference.

Should you lose for example on your fourth column, then that is it for that day, come back tomorrow and restart. You need SEVEN clear days of 10 units profit before doubling your playing stake.

The risk is carried for the first two days only, after that it is >> SELF FUNDING.

You could increase the risk and odds of not losing, by using a 5 column approach. You now have a 96% chance of scoring a win, however you would need to adjust you daily win target to 20 units, and would be playing that a particular 5 hand sequence from 32 possible sequences doesn't hit you for 20 columns..

$150 into over 10 "large" for 4 days effort!!!!!


Should this approach fail inside of the first two day, you would need to win 15 times just to get back to even. Then win another 10 times to progress from first base.

If you had a bankroll greater than £75 or $150 you might want to use the balance to construct recovery option for the first two days only.

Say you lost 15 units before you make 10 units. You then use the rest of your bankroll to recoup then continue where you left off. Few ways to do this, either use another martingale on top (lots of risk), or double your playing stake and use a Labby to win say 8 units, or possibly a Fibonacci, again to win either 15 units or 8 units if you doubled your initial stake size.

Nothing stopping somebody from playing two sessions per day, then you might achieve your goal in two weeks. Give yourself a decent break in between sessions. Yes I have explored this and I have found associating a numeric value to each of the possible outcomes of a Binary chart, as outlined above playing them simply in order 1,2,3,4 etc. faired best [random versus random]. You are either going to win or lose, the initial stake is not that great.

If you decided to play the options sequentially, option 1 is BBBB, you need to decide if you will bet the same as BBBB or the opposite of BBBB, which of course would be would be PPPP, It all works out the same, you're playing with of 15/1 odds no matter what.


Yes IT WILL lose eventually, will you be at the table when it does? Your nemesis has to catch you when you are playing, one of the reasons I state, play less than ONE SHOE per day.

Hence the reason make 10 units then bail. It can even lose when you are at the table, however it is the first 2 days which are crucial, after that, so long as you don't get back to back losing days you will be OK, again hence the reason to limit your exposure.

It really doesn't matter how you determine your bet selection. £5k or $10k for 28 hours graft, minimal risk "$150", cheaper than a few weeks worth of lottery tickets and better odds. 

Don't try and fast track this, by betting every hand, I would suggest that if anybody used other modes of play, that involves betting every hand, it wouldn't work. Losing 4 bets in a row when betting every hand is a whole lot easier than losing 4 bets for any given predetermined column sequence of bets.

The aim is to TRY and turn 75 quid or 150 bucks into £5 bricks or $10 large for 28 hours at the tables. As I stated above, it doesn't really matter if you lose the 3rd day, 2nd stage, 3rd or even the 4th stage, you are STILL IN PROFIT. You need to be lucky for the first two days only, otherwise it is SELF FUNDING. Lose 4 bets in a row and you are done for the day, better for your composure.

Survive for a month and restart. Want to decrease the odds of losing?, Increase the risk..


Disclaimer - Gambling can be a risky business, only gamble with what you can afford to lose.

 Now i start to experiment with progressions only MM without any kind of bet selection.
Just notice last outcome and play, no tracking at all.

So far i only find one way and its for EC - playing each and every trail.
Is like following a march or algorithm.

Any one playing this way?

Cheers