Quote from: Gizmotron on December 01, 2015, 09:16:49 PM
The trick to taking advantage of these few opportunities is in positioning yourself first by not getting way behind in the session before reaching these opportunities in the first place. I know how to stay at even real easy. That skill must be learned first. 50/50 bets are great for this purpose. Attacking a sleeping dozen that sleeps from 15 to 30 spins in a row is easier still.

I hope you like these simple aspects of the game even more.

I like this statment very much.

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Lung you should not belive in Everything on this forum.
When they say they have 53% or 60% strike ratio - so does it not have so much about how they bet as every one can have that strike ratio some-times - is not rocket sience.
The game is 50/50 and has negative expectaion - so no one can keep 53/60% strike ratio and no one can succed flat betting with out using some kind of progression.

When you read Jimski, GR8 and AS post and replys you have to understand they don't have any bet selection that is better then Follow The Last or any other kind of march.
It does not matter what kind of march or betting you do as no one can outguess better then 50/50 with negative expectation.

All combinations has the same probability even if you might get other impression reading what other has to say - so is it only illusion.
I feel sorry for your loses and maybe you should stop playing all togheter.

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Thank you Victor :-)

If you want to become serios - then you should buy Roulette Extreme from Uxsoftware for around 30 Euro
That way you can test systems and progression by hand and when you think you have something - then you can get your idea coded for 40 Euro and you can run million of spins or just 10.000 it up to you.

The thing is that Roulett Extreme will save you money - because you will quick learn how to avoid bad play/games.
Normand at http://www.norcosoft.com/ code anything you like into RX.

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Cool that you are winning, let us know when the progression fail!

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 You think 100 is to much - then look at the original with 12 steps and peak at 123 ... MrMajiks sucks ...
30 Step contra 12 step and peak at 100

Is among the best existing extanded star progressions ...

See attach file and compare ...

You will lose your first 10 to 15 steps, so you would need recovery stages, how about 30 steps, that should improve your game plan ...

Credits goes to GLC ...
30 steps

http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6106.0

Your group method looks interesting.  Is it a very new idea or have you had a chance to test it some?

I just thought I would post the following.  I had forgotten about this little gem.  Enjoy the read.

Star System Variant

    Here is a little progression that was first introduced by Carsch on GG.

    It is a variant of the original Star System (one of the better public MM systems available on the web), but is better. It requires only about 55% of the original star systems BR and only busts after 30 straight losses...

    Any two wins clear the progression. It allows you to catch streaks, as well as allows you to not go broke with WLWLWL.

    The progression

    Base level:
    1
    1
    2
    2
    4
    4
    8
    8
    16
    16 

See how to play below. 

    1 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    1 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    2 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    2 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    4 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    4 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    8 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    8 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    16 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    16 win & parlay (lose and move on to Recovery 1)

    Recovery 1 (this is played just like above)

    2
    2
    4
    4
    8
    8
    16
    16
    32
    32

    Recovery 2  (This too is played just like above)

    6
    6
    12
    12
    24
    24
    48
    48
    96
    96

As you can see, it requires 558 units to play base level, recovery 1 and recovery 2.

Base level = 62 units
Recovery 1 = 124 units
Recovery 2 = 372 units

Is this the method you two are talking about ?

This is a system that developed while I was tweaking the "Very near infallible Roulette system".  That system is way too complicated and almost impossible to play except at home with pen and paper and time.


This is an Even Chance system.


We will use the R/B even chance.


Wait until you have 2 colors in a row.  Either RR or BB.


We then bet for a change of color.  We will bet at most 6 times for the change.  If it doesn't change in 6 bets, wait until it does change to resume betting.


We are going to use a progression that is based on the "Philiberte" system found in the Monte Carlo Anecdotes.  Atlanta's progression in his latest excellent system "Matrix Trendgrabber" was also used.  It's not exact but close.


1-2-4


1-3-6


2-4-8


2-6-12


3-6-12


3-9-18


4-8-16


4-12-24


5-10-20


5-15-30


7-14-28


7-21-42


9-18-36


9-27-54


12-24-48


12-36-72


15-30-60


15-45-90


We will follow A's rules in that we stay at the same level as long as we don't lose 3 times in a row.  After each win, we return to the lowest number in the level and start again.  If we lose 3 times in a row, we move to the next level and play the same way.  Even though these numbers if added together equal a large number of units, not to worry because we will be winning as we move up the progression thus keeping our drawdowns under control.


Getting back to playing rules, as long as we are winning 1 time out of 3 betting for 2 colors in a row to change, we will stay at the 1st level.  After each win, we will wait until we have another 2 of the same color to resume betting for a chop.  If we get 6 losses in a row it will mean that the same color has hit 8 times in a row.  This will happen from time to time.


As long as we are in the 1st level, we will be in the profit accumulation mode.  In profit accumulation mode, we only bet for 2 in a row to change.  Once it changes, we wait again for 2 in a row before resuming betting for the chop.


If we lose 3 in a row at the 1st level, we will be down 7 units and will immediately move to the 2nd level of 1-3-6 and we are now in the recovery mode.  We will continue betting for a change.  When we get a change we will start betting for the chops to continue.  This is the difference between profit accumulation mode and recovery mode.


If we are in profit accumulation mode, we only bet for a streak to chop.


If we are in recovery mode, we bet for streaks to end and for chops to continue.  Our progression continues according to the betting rules no matter what mode we are in and even as we move from 1 mode to the next.


Once we are at a new level, we stay at that level until we fully recover our losses and then we drop back to level 1 and wait until we have 2 in a row to begin betting for a chop.


Here's a short example:


R   No bet
B   No bet
B   No bet but 2 in a row so bet 1 for chop
R   Win +1 in profits  Now wait for 2 in a row
B   No bet
R   No bet
R   No bet but 2 in a row so bet 1 for chop
R   Lose, bet 2 for chop
R   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Win +1 so (+1+1=+2) wait for 2 in a row
B   Bet 1 for chop
B   Bet 2 for chop
B   Bet 4 for chop
B   Lost 3 in a row so we are -7 and enter recovery mode and also move to the 1-3-6 level.
B   Lost 1 bet 3 for chop
R   Win +2 -7 = -5 since we are in recovery mode we start betting on chops to continue so we now bet 1 in the 2nd level of 1-3-6
B   Win +1-5 = -4  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Lost -1-4=-5  Bet 3 for streak to chop
R   Win +3-5=-2  Bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win +1-2=-1  Bet 1 for chops to continue
R   Win +1-1=0  We have recovered all losses, not we are back to profit accumulation mode waiting for 2 in a row to form so we can bet for it to chop and we are also back to 1st level of 1-2-4.  We are still +2 overall.  No bet yet.
B   No bet
R   No bet
R   Bet 1 for chop
B   Win +1+2=+3  No bet.  Wait for streak to form
B   Bet 1 for chop
R   Win +1+3=+4  No bet.  Still in profit accumulation mode.  Wait for streak of 2
R   Bet 1 for chop
R   Lose, bet 2 for chop
R   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Win  +1+4=+5 No bet.  Still in profit mode.  wait for streak
B   Streak has formed bet 1 for chop
B   lose, bet 2 for chop
B   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Lose, -7 go to recovery mode and level 2.  continue betting for streak to end.  Bet 1 unit, the 1st bet of level 1
B   Lose, -8 Bet bet 3 for streak to end
R   Win  +3-8=-5  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win  +1-5=-4  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Lose   bet 3 for streak to end
B   Lose   bet 6 for streak to end
R   Win +3-4=-1  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win +1-1=0  Reset to profit accumulation mode and drop to 1st bet level.

Thanks Victor ...

I don't understand - you say i can buy digital copy of the book for 6 Euro - but there is no digital copy online at Amazon dot com ...
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_4?rh=k%3Aroulette+key+gold%2Ci%3Astripbooks&keywords=roulette+key+gold&ie=UTF8&qid=1444408188

I go to amazon and it say 30 and could not find digital copy for 6 - can you give me a working link ...

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You can google to see what casinos offering La Partage Rule - house edge 1.35% if you like to play even money bets.
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 With 1K spins you would encounter around 9 windows with 3.0 SD or above with all three even money locations
That is around 14 loses and 2 wins for each window of trails

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Hello - i also would like to see how you play this one.

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klw i belive Kimo Li has own forum - you should buy his books to fully understand his methodology.

http://www.kimoliroulette.com/

I get the feeling that he is tierd of wannabies who wants Everything for free and i understand him.

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