I don't post much anymore as people are still chasing 'mechanical' triggers and set progression ranges, there's NO triggers and definatly NO fixed progression that will win every time you play, some don't want to believe that but until they do, they'll just be banging their heads.

So, forget trying to work with a set progression, I use imbalance in my play against an RNG yes, a device the clever guys here say the casino can manipulate to take your money, leave them to it. I play follow the last colour 50/50 watching what's happened in formations of singles and series, placing bets and counting losses then upping the units when I 'feel' a few wins should arrive. You can only get this feeling by understanding what happens in each of your sessions, take notes, write down your LW for each unit gained that way you can work out how much your bet sizes can be during an attack, if I ever go -10 units, that's a bad session, I've posted examples of this before, search the forum if it interests you.

A stiff trigger mixed with a mechanical progression range is a bomb waiting to go off.

QuoteI think about something like this 11111222224444488888

My last session looked like this 1121122132111 and the one before it was like this 121111341211

QuoteI was invited too...but if Albalaha is there, I won't join.

Knew it wouldn't be just me that he provokes the old heckles.

The sad thing is/was that the admin (calls themsleves AK) said they had only recently visited gambling forums to garner the names of what they called experts in the field, good post counts, long sering members etc etc making it 'look' like there wouldn't be anyone 'like' albalabalabba allowed BUT in gathering so called excellent web citizens they allow them to recommend a friend and gave them the authority to just send the invite after they join, who the f&*k in their right frame of mind would recommend that nutter?? wtf, the mind boggles

Last week I got a secret invitation to  anew forum, some others here did too.

I asked the new admin how he selected the distinguished members to join, didn't really get a good reply but was told only people at the top of their game would be there, well, als just arrived so I have asked for my account to be closed, they seem to let ANYONE join.

QuoteBetvoyager went to junk after their changes in non-zero roulette. Without the incentive it is now just the same to play at any other casino roulette if you use their European game, so they are not as important now as an alternate source. At former times they were king

That's your opinion, the no zero game itself offers the best odds available IMO, a true 50/50 the fact that you pay 10% is irrelevant, first you have to win a session before they tax you, I just add a few units to my target to cover the tax, it's not hard to do.

@ esoito, no problem, your welcome.

Ah some replies.

@ Xedos, yes saw that link, question was about the new site layout.

@ Bayes, yes that one.

@ Blood Angel, minimum is 0.05, penny bets went a long time ago.

@ esoito, I've not noticed any changes to what happens, each session remains the same sort of battle, I play twice a day so I've had a good 6 - 8 sessions with the new appearance, not noticed anything, they shouldn't need to change the RNG it has always worked fine.

Does no one play there anymore? or am I hallucinating?

I'm all for change and their new look looks appealing but I cannot find the History button, anyone seen it?

QuoteMost amount of spins before all numbers hit was 525

I've had 1 number sleep for 647 spins when I did the same type of test you have done, and that was probably 5 years ago now. Since then I have deduced, speaking for RNG play at NoZero BetVoyager, the best bet odds you can get is 50/50 could be 18 numbers or red/black, every bets a guess at the end of the day, even on live wheels. Why is 50/50 the best, well, compare it with playing 24 numbers on double dozens, more wins bigger losses, 50/50 medium wins and easier to recover/chase. All my tests lately are purely MM betting 1 colour.

QuoteI will not use RNG.
Will only use real spins.

QuoteI did a quick test using RNG ...

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windows phone, Iphone android, all easy to code for BUT more difficult and takes longer, why would you want it coded just for android, wouldn't it be better to just code in RX or similar?

QuoteThe pattern I see is always the programmers end up disappointed. Tiago, automatedbots, rjeaton, and all the others who are gone by now from the past and recent present. Embracing this idea based on facts it is better if new programmers do not aspire compensation to be able to last active in the community.

Tiago didn't end up dissapointed, rjeaton was only coding in RX and from what I can remember he had an accident was ill for a bit and never came back to the forum, they probably got bored.

Quoteit is better if new programmers do not aspire compensation

I don't understand how someone can work for hours, weeks or even months to perfect something then just give it a way, I do though if it was stuff, nothing that has been given away has ever been a winner so in my view it's not worth having, if however you have something worth having then surely human nature being what it is, you sell/rent it, that's what I do. You can make money from coding but its not easy. I've never plugged what I sell on the internet as I don't want to, if a player is serious enough they will find my products eventually, with a bunch of free coders desktops around the globe would be even fuller with junk. IMO

I think IF, and that's a big if, a member who arrived at this forum to find a winning method and that was all they were after wants to learn how to write their own software then they should decide what language they want to use and start themselves then post their code allowing programmers to either fix/explain or show a better way.

I agree totally that coding for roulette is MUCH different than just "Hello World" because with a roulette method in mind there is a route to take already so coding is easier. They should also be warned/reminded that coding for roulette with all the fancy methods and MM is sometimes difficult, for example in the days of ChrisBis with his Biscending method where he would add the numbers each spin sort of like packman closing his mouth, that took some head scratching, as we all know waiting for X reds would be very easy to code but nobody should want that coding anyway.

Those who want to learn MUST show code before they get helped otherwise coders will be doing it all for them, Vic has tried this before, it didn't work, maybe you should take a poll to see then wait for them to start posting code and see what replies they get from 'us' coders.

No problem for me, I don't use their download version I login through internet explorer on win xp.

Are you struggling with the live games or RNG games?

Been watching this thread, as you do, I wonder if BV are only the middle man with the live feed company, just a thought, I may be totally wrong of course. Where does their feed come from?

QuoteBy "corrupt" are you guys meaning numbers have been added to cause the thing to win or lose?

That would be my view Sam, maybe "corrupt" in this instance means "manipulated".