QuoteIf I can beat this and can prove my method too and like to sell that as well

As I thought, and you are asking everyone to do it for you or to see if anyone actually can, as you said, I will stick with what I know works, thanks for the nudge. Same old Sumit lol

QuoteDo you know how to beat it albalaha?

I doubt it, he wouldn't be asking for help if he did. As A Dulay stated, it's a pointless quiz as most seasoned members know a single can and will sleep over 600 spins so we wouldn't bother chasing it.

Sumit, cut to the chase, do you have a way of beating it? if you say you do you must be prepared to prove it, or are you still in the selling market?

QuoteUnfortunately I am not able to find not many resources and programs of quality for roulette at no cost

RX is going to be the cheapest way for YOU to do all your own testing, I can't see anyone (coder/programer) outhere spending many months developing something and offering it totally free, I wouldn't, especially if it is able to be programmed to do anything you want it to.

QuoteThe truth is that the idea of ​​paying for system tester programs is not very attractive

Agreed but there are guys like me that offer tester bots at very reasonable prices, you should remember 2 things, 1) it gives you a full clear idea if the system is going to work which will save you money testing it for real 2) it saves you the time of hand testing and/or learning to code yourself.

What exactly would you want/expect for a "system tester" as you call it

Ok since JL is having trouble losing chips while tracking JL and I have decided to up the ante so it mimicks his play on a real wheel, he will be able to use pennies to spin the RNG but will then be betting much bigger unit sizes so the pennies lost doesn't effect his play. He now has a bank of 200 euros with the intention of doubling it by the end of January 2013.

As this is now the forum most of JLs' followers are visiting/members, I have decided to move the Challenge from the old site. I may update the old site at some intervals but will focus on this site mainly.

@ JL I have a few questions mate, since you were banned from the old site we had discussed and agreed you will aim to have E40.00 by 31st December 2012. I have been looking at your play in the history of your sessions. As we discussed you were losing chips deriving from 2 major factors PRIOR to our doubling the bank agreement. You lose when progressing the RNG as you have to place a bet for each number to appear, you lost a few sessions due to f*&k%$g around trying different things, one of your main arguments to everybody is FOCUS which you must have forgot a few times.

OK back to the session I am looking at, there are 3 things that confuse me when I consider what you preach to everyone,

firstly: Hit n Run

my argument, what is hit n run if some of your sessions on the RNG @ Betvoyager are 30 seconds long but a lot are over 1 hour and 1 was 2 hours 58 minutes, so please tell us why and your reasoning behind it, it didn't take that long to get a trigger as I can also see how much you bet each spin, my next point

Secondly: Shifting the RNG

If I understood you right, you just bet 1 ec each spin red or black so you stand to make 1 unit or lose 1 unit BUT I have looked through a good handful of your sessions and I see you bet EVERY spin!! if you look at the attached screenshot you will see spin 1 was 1 unit, that's what I/we would expect, spin 2 was 4 units, why fella

Thirdly: length of progression to use

As you said you were mainly focusing on PB now I would expect to see the std 1,2,4 for a total loss of 7 units if you lose the attack, but I can't find anything like that, I see 1,8,9,9,8 etc, I see a lot of funny bet amount almost like you are behind by X so you chuck caution to the wind and hope, my opinion only but that's how its looking to me.

Balances past and present:

For those that don't know what's going on here, in short, I setup a BV account with 20 euros for JL to prove his method works, JL took up the challenge and has gone up and down in the bankroll for about 2 months now, peak reached was 30.51 euros but since then JL lost focus, lost over 8 euros, we discussed this and it started to climb again, I have only studied the recent sessions AFTER our discussion of you sticking to your plan/methods, all my above findings are since then too so I would appreciate some answers for the followers to read regarding you doing almost everything you accuse others of, not getting out before the $hit hits the fan and maintaining focus/discipline and believing in your method/s.

I look forward to your reply, please keep it to the point mate

Fair enough, it all depends on the platform, so BV have behaved, PlayTech I would steer clear of not sure why, but I just would, you see BV cannot work out anything during the row of numbers you have asked for be it 1 or 60 its set in stone for the duration of those numbers.

QuoteIf this is for RNG roulette there won't be many takers. Too many people think RNG roulette is rigged. Better to bet live wheel every time

Subby, we've debated the differences long before your time, none can be found, the only assumption was that RNG just gets us to the losing sequence faster. There are plenty of RNG players here, even you bank manager JL knows now that RNG is NO different.

QuoteIf it's for live wheel then well done on getting a bot to do it

It's no more difficult to code for RNG or live wheels they all need the same effort/procedures mate

QuoteHi. superman

I always enjoy reading your posts.
Myself I work heavy industrial, oil refineries, pulp and paper mills,  and the such.
tho I'm currently off work for 6 months to upgrade my welding ticket a local college.

Glad to hear you enjoy my posts mate, yeah I did a few shutdowns at a big refinery, rotating the pipes etc, replacing valves, who would have thought crude oil could wear the inside of pipes as much as it does? amazing really.

Quoteboilermaker mechanic and a welder

LOL me too mate, at one point I had my full set of codes, mainly welded with DC low hydrogen pipework for air conditioner systems, preasure vessels were my favourite though, there's nothing better than sitting in a black tin can breathing fumes lol.

That was about 20 years ago, now I code for web applications, which also made it possible to code bots n trackers etc for roulette. So even as a welder/boilermaker you too can code your own things if you put your mind to it.

QuoteI don't need somebody else trying to dictate how and when and where I should or be getting my gambling advice

It's your cash, if you can afford to lose it and won't starve if you do, then do with it as you want to, your choice buddy.

QuoteThat is a MASSIVE jump and one I wouldn't do myself. Perhaps a 15, 30, 60 would give you full recovery plus 1 so you don't lose. Double losses occur and to lose 280 alone as a 2nd bet would take ages to recover in the first step you do

Have to agree with that BCBM, in my tests alone over 10300 spins there were I think 3 double losses, you'll kick yourself if you hit one fella, days of profit down the drain.

I think Robert plays on the no zero wheel JL

In some countries 25% of women are on anti depression pills which means 75% are walking around untreated.

QuoteShe is due to sit that on Saturday morning

Ouch, hope she gets overtime for it

Quoteso nerves all round

She'll do fine, relax, good luck subby Junior

Spot on Gizmo, I totally agree with that mindset, let's say you did actually lose your 1st 3 bets, you could use the same 3 bet sequence again after the predetermined gap of spins, it remains 50/50 but what are the chances really?

ok for those that like to look at lines and lines of results, when PB came out I did bot it, and wrote it off, as you do lol. Anyhow, the first was coded for red/black, I had time today so coded it again for high/low results attached, don't worry about the progression I didn't fix that, just wanted to see if there were any double or triple losses, look at the file and let us all know if you have time, I'm off out now so haven't looked through it.
These are the sequences
$hlsequences[8][3]=[["low","low","low"],["high","high","high"],["low","high","low"],["high","low","high"],["low","low","high"],["high","high","low"],["low","high","high"],["high","low","low"]]

This would be a loss

0|1|2|3|4|6|7
0|1|2|3|4|7
0|2|3|4|7
0|2|3|4
0|2|4
0|2
0
Seq 0 L  Prog 1 Cash 5 Peak 6
Seq 0 L  Prog 2 Cash 3 Peak 6
Seq 0 L  Prog 4 Cash -1 Peak 6

each attack has all the above, as the 8 patterns get removed working down to the remaining one then the 3 bets if needed.