QuoteIt could be John has a sixth or seventh sense as to when is a good time to play

He might have in the past but now that he just lost 33% of a bank it just looks to me like he hit what everyone was saying he would eventually, you can't dodge all the bullets with hit n hope, and if one bullet takes 33% of your total bank then the losses are a huge as he was told, in essence the one bad run took almost £115, £100 he had won and another £15 from his starting bank. So as has been discussed over and over, his given it all back in one shout AND some of his own bank.

QuoteHis method should be botted!!

They all have Sam, they all lose and don't recover. He doesn't dispute this BUT we can't seem to agree on the Hit N Run factor he deploys, no firm times or durations.

Let's see what he says before we start the inquest.

OK looks like starting this thread has woken JL, he just PM'd me so I have given him the new password and asked him to post here as in his PM he said he hit a bad run which apparently took almost £100 as it's currently £185 and in the PM he told me he was near £300 I wish I had logged in and seen the balance before the bang.

Hopefully he will tell us/you exactly what went wrong, which method lost and how he intends to recover.

QuoteHe did post a day or two ago on Feb 19 in VLS 'scam' thread so he's obviously still around

I missed that, so have just checked his profile

QuoteLast Active: Today at 07:58:31 AM

Let's wait and see if he responds to this thread then.

Hi Everyone

As most of you will know, I have been monitoring the performance of johnlegend and his 'winning' play, well, I wasn't sure if I should create this thread or not but here goes.

As you know, last year I gave him the use of my BetVoyager account, I deposited money for him so he had zero risk, he started good (as most methods do) then failed at BV, his reason was he was getting bored playing for low stakes and would rather play at PaddyPower on their real tables as that's the only live casino he 'trusts'.

So I created an account at PP, transfered the balance over and added some money, from him, to make the account into £200 playing bank. For the first month it was slow going, not sure what size bets he was placing but I think he went up to about £220.

He asked me not to post any progress until he contacts me, fair enough I thought, until he never contacted me for a month, so last week I decided to log in and check his progress or as it appeared lack of it. I sent him a PM and an email asking hime what's happening, I have had no reply hence this thread.

The balance is £185, I just checked it this morning, it was £185 last week too.

As you all know I was promised mega riches, don't worry I wasn't expecting it to materialise as this is roulette we are talking about, so as he hasn't bothered to reply to my PM nor  my email I have changed the PaddyPower password to see if I can force a response from him, no response I keep the £185.

I also note, he has not been active here for a while, maybe he has personal issues to attend to, I would like to know where he is and what went wrong.

Am I being too harsh changing the password?

Bloke goes into a doctors surgery with a small weener

bloke: doctor can please look at my weener, I want it made bigger
doctor: let's have a look then
bloke drops his pants
doctor: mmmm, I have a sister who works at a zoo, sometimes baby elephants are still born, we could try something totally new by using the end of the trunk
bloke: sounds good to me
doctor: I'll call you when we have one

3 weeks pass by and the doctor rings the bloke to arrange surgery

after 8 weeks of recovery the bloke goes to a party looking for a hot chick to test his new member on, spots a lovely woman and meanders over to chit chat.

bloke: nice party
chick: yes
bloke: you friends with the host?
chick: yes, sort of

After about 5 minutes of chit chat, the blokes trousers unzip themselves and the new member pops out, grabs an apple from the buffet and goes back into his pants, the chick looks at him and says

wow, that was cool, can you do it again?

bloke: probably, but I don't think my ar$e can take another apple

QuoteNow you have H.G for penny players and high rollers. Congrats

It can't be the H.G if he's still looking for an MM for it, every method works, it's the bank that let's them down, same here I think

LOL, yeah I figured it out, don't think it's fair to spam it all over the forum though, we've read it and commented the only way forward is for Vic to respond.

   its like dejavu all over again, is there an echo in here?

If you look back in the forums archives for posts by me tracking numbers appearences over X spins, if that's what it is you are doing, I have done this over 100s of thousands of spins RNG real and airball, YES there patterns BUT at no stage before you have your results can you determine where to bet, reliably anyway, you get the same percentages as you would expect with any inside number method. Good thinking though, funny what you find/see happening.

If I aint following properly, give us a brief idea of what you are looking for, I may already have it coded somewhere.

QuoteI do not expect this post to last so it will be on the other forum.

LOL, me neither Sam, I've had PM's in the past about Vics' hunger for money, hence my posts on his "PAID MEMBERSHIP" thread, the man has people to feed that's understood but forums are not the way to make a living in my opinion.

Sorry Vic

QuoteI couldn't keep it lit!

Add a little tobaco Sam

Enjoy guys

A woman has been taken into hospital after eating horse meat burgers from tesco
Her condition is said to be stable

So they have found a Horse burger in tesco.
What's next, My Lidl pony?

Not entirely sure how Tesco are going to get over this hurdle.

Waitress in Tesco asked if I wanted anything on my Burger.
So I had a £5 each way !

Tesco Quarter Pounders: The affordable way to buy your daughter the
pony that she's always wanted!

Had some burgers from tesco for my tea last night....
I still have a bit between my teeth

Unused HMV vouchers are now being accepted at Tesco.
Just tell them HMV means 'Horse Meat Voucher'

Tesco are now testing all their vegetarian burgers for traces of uniquorn

Anyone want a burger from Tesco? Yay or neigh?

"I've just checked the Tesco burgers in my freezer...AND THEY'RE OFF"

I'm so hungry, I could eat a horse....."
I guess Tesco just listened.

Tesco now forced to deny presence of zebra in burgers, as shoppers
confuse barcodes for serving suggestions.

A cow walks into a bar. Barman says 'why the long face?'
Cow says 'Illegal ingredients, coming over here stealing our jobs!'

I hear the smaller version of those Tesco burgers make great horse d'oeuvres.

These Tesco burger jokes are going on a bit. Talk about flogging a
dead.. NO! NO NO NO!

Said to the Mrs these tesco burgers given me terrible trots.

To beef or not to beef.
That is equestrian.

Quote"All we are are interested in is the dogs position at the first bend. This is a crucial bit of information because you would be surprised how many dogs win who get the early lead and avoid any trouble in running which happens frequently."

Yeah I've looked into this, it's only about 10% of the whole equation, too many dogs are SAw but get caught and passed too often even if they have EP the most promising time this can work is when the dog is Trap 1 or Trap 2, if it's in Trap 2 then Trap 1 should be a slow starter, again if we were working with Trap 2 we also need to know if it heads for the rails or stays wide.

there's software called BAGS beater here in the UK, load of stuff, nice graphics but otherwise useless if you want consistent winnings, all it does is take the Split time and shows a nice graphic display of where each dog will be at the first bend, rubbish, as so much bumping and barging takes place in the first half of any race, think for yourself, the dogs are chasing the hare, wheres the hare? on the rails next to Trap 1

Split time is no way all you need to know.

Greyhound racing is very difficult to work out, so difficult infact that the favourites only have a hit/win rate less than 30% over time. We must remember the clerk of the course, if that's what he's called, places 6 dogs in each race that are as close as possible and each dog stands the same chance to win as the mut does, the odds are calculated to cover each eventuallity of the result.

@ Bally6354, I've heard of the trap challenge but never looked into it but have studied greyhounds for a few years now and decided that its much more involved than just using form guide predictions. If you look at racing post predictions they contradict their own guesses for each race already, the flash predictor rarely shows the same result as their post pick, which already should ring alarm bells. Also they provide so much useless information such as trap stats, these are all to confuse the gambler in making a decision, there's 2 ways I am NOW monitoring on greyhounds and gathering data each day, I have my own bot that gathers the data for each dog and produces what THE DOG STATS alone say the outcome will/should be, heres what 1 race looks like

Belle Vue 1,4,3,2,5,6

This says 1 is the worst dog and 6 is likely to win, the above race finished 6-5, fairly good BUT would have lost on the win/lose market, would have worked on the Place market but not often enough so currently I am working with the FC market with laying in mind, only problem here is the liquidity which keeps lay odds high.

My bot does many things to reach a verdict one of them is mapping the categories the dog has jumped between over its whole racing career, as we know when a new dog arrives it is first Time tested, usually a solo event so they can calculate where its at over a set distance, let's say it falls into the A8 category, if it wins the very 1st race and had no bumps etc it will move up a category next week, if it had bumps and came second it will stay in that category, if it came last without bumps or upset it may drop to A9 next time out. Mapping this is fairly straight forward and you can see by graphing it where the dog is at currently, another thing I check is the traps either side of each dog, quick starters etc is the dog likely to stay wide or aim for the rails, does it gain ground if it falls behind etc etc etc there's a lot going on in the bot BUT I haven't changed any calculations for about 4 months now.

Dishlickers = difficult gambling