@ peauke

Good question, hopefully Ralph will answer soon.

I have botted this method and tried a few different permutations, if your bank/pockets is deep enough it will take a long time to fail. I have tested the following.

Trigger: get 5 uniques in a row eg; 1,23,32,34,12 OR if a repeat is found while waiting for a trigger keep the initial numbers and ignore the repeat until there's 5 numbers, results were no different so now I just do the later, ignore a repeater while gathering the 5 numbers.

I tried the same play as Ralph but found the drawdowns very very steep at certain stages so, Ralph may or may not agree to this slight adjustment, starting with 5 numbers, LL you now have 7 numbers covered, at this point Ralph would start adding his 1 chip to the first number and so on, that means he's increasing his stake long before he is in defficit so I decided to try waiting until the bak was -30 or more before adding chips, he was raising after 2 losses, I was raising after 5, I saw terrible runs still so increased it to -50 before adding extra chips this gave 7 losses before any further risk.

The reason I did this was, with hindsight, the longer the 7 numbers sleep the less chance they will all sleep much longer, sometimes they do but if you keep the cost down in the early stages recovery is a tad easier. I also didn't add chips IF the result won and remained behind, I only added chips on a loss.

See the attached results file for an overnight run last night 4352 units won

Quotedownloaded it again

that's the problem, play with the browser versions, the download is ALWAYS %&^$ed

QuoteIf he not have success, you got nothing.

Yes that true, but I won't have lost anything either.

QuoteAre your efforts still being independently verified by Superman

Yes they are trebor

QuoteAre you bribeing an independent supevisor?

I can't be bought Ralph, I'll say it how it is.

JL works for me now lol

Quoteis an automatic thing you can get from RX

Yes, you don't even need to write any code to use the many many graphs it shows you.

QuoteI think that could help with some of the wheel clustering ideas

RX already does that for you, do you have RX?

Quote@Superman
Don't even bother...

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QuoteBetting systems constitute one of the oldest delusions of gambling history

delusions, a strong word for real wheel players, they're delusional

As the quote is aimed at real wheel players, I tend to agree, real wheels have no limits whatsoever, I will only ever play RNG, built by humans, has no real option of not doing the same thing/s more than once as it has been programmed to do 'something' I've watched, like many of us have, the RNG marquee for the last 4 or 5 years and now play 'with' it, those following, I still have not lost a session.

Quotefalsely assumes that each play in a game of chance is not independent of the others

They are independent on a real wheel, the ball has no memory niether does the wheel and the human cannot spin/release the ball at the same time/speed or in direct line of the last number outs slot, each results is independent.

From JL

QuoteIt needs a partner called money management.

You keep using that term in your specific methods JL, I have wondered for a while now HOW you can call a suicidal marty progression on TWO dozens with 243 units a stake, smart MM

A single loss would set you back so many games or HAR sessions, it could be a month before you get back to where you were, you've reported losses on your other methods, what do you do AFTER a loss, I won't believe if you say you just take it on the chin and keep the same unit size, how much do you risk and for how long AFTER a loss.

QuoteI've never seen a loss on a LIVE WHEEL

IS 81 units X2 the most you've been asked to bet or have you not reached that size yet, if you have how often?

JL, can you inform us how you recover from a loss of progression, as it could be weeks worth of effort just to get back to where you were before the loss, or do you risk multiplying your bet size to regain faster? as 243 units is a lot of games AND even more spins on a live wheel, many hours.

QuoteApparently there the dog's bollock's !!!

Sadly foreigners may not get that as it's a good slang saying, nice one D1.

For the foreigners, here in the UK we use that phrase to say something is great, super, fantastic etc. Now that's the dogs bollocks OR if you don't want to swear in certain company just say the dogs dangly bits, adults will get it, kids wouldn't.

QuoteI gave Juiced91 some pocket money to have a go with it there

That's nice, hey Juiced?

QuoteWhat is the bankroll requirement for this

242 units, it would take that many games to recover from a loss, on a live wheel that would be days, if not a couple of weeks, madness

QuoteIt looks like the only way to do well in this game is to follow what is happening as the game unfolds. Something I haven't paid much attention to

Something MOST haven't paid much attention too, I'm convinced it's the only way forward too.

Quotewould this all be programmable to a certain degree

Probably BUT it wouldn't work programmed as you should/would be using too many different bet sizes at different points of the game, you, that's YOU not a bot, need to be thinking while you play, free spinning past bad clumps, deciding when it looks good to dive in etc etc etc

No matter how you look at it, any 12 numbers can sleep the same, layout means nothing, ignatus this has been tried before, the only thing you seem to have picked up is using +1 if behind, the rest you are just going round in circles mate.