Quote from: Tomla on July 01, 2016, 02:37:07 AM
Hey don't worry about  Albahala. He has a good shot with his new casino affiliation promotion business!!!!!! We might soon see him on online casino ads promoting betvoyager.....everyone has to make a living you know

........by hook or by crook!!!

The following is a W/L from Grassroots 1-2-3 using Table #1 from 1.06.16 #185 spins

Note the long runs of wins.........perhaps a parlay?

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Scrapping this bet selection..........too many misses already on just 3rd game tested.....bets up to 22 units


#177 spins

LLLLLWWLLLLWLLLLLLLWLLLLWLLLWLWLLLLLLLLL

I agree with Denzie about Kav and Al, but Steve still seems a bit slippery.

In the 1970s, there were entire corporations set up with full-time employees to clock wheels. The high-level organization was there simply because it was a very lucrative opportunity.......which still exists in some form today.

Steve appears to be talking out of both sides of his mouth........one minute, he's selling a new device/system........the next he's saying he doesn't have enough time to handle all of the users of these devices/software.

Not to mention the elephant in the room...........not 1 single member has claimed to use these "devices/software" successfully for profit long-term (or short-term for that matter).

So we are to believe that not 1 member was curious enough to try this out. I'd love to be proven wrong........but this just looks bad.

My working theory about this method is that there will be large draw-downs, but other more conservative methods have issues as well, so best strategy is to look to win 2 out of 3 games. This allows for nasty sequences from time-to-time without much risk.

At this point the magic number appears to be #200 units win or lose. This allows for bets up to 20 units starting @ 1 unit base.

In the charts provided by Ignatus, 200 units would cover the dd easily.

Still working on this.........will post more W/L records soon.

Weisbaden Table #1 01.06.2016 #185 Spins

LLLLWWLLWLLWLLLLLWWLLLLWWWLLWLLLWLLW (12/24)

Total : +39

DD :    -01

Highest Bet : 06

Weisbaden Table #2 06.01.2016 #289 Spins

WWWLWLWLLWLLLLWLWLLLLLWLLLLWWLLLLLWLLLWLLLLLWLLLLWWWLWLLWLLW (20/41)

Total : +58

DD :     -50

Highest Bet : 15 units

.......not for the faint of heart........but recovery is incredibly fast.

Sitting at a table, you get a bet every 5 spins on average........double if you play columns.

I'll be working on this over the next few days to produce a W/L record. Perhaps that will help with progression selection.

The main downside is that you're left sitting at the table without betting for stretches at a time.......not a great scenario, but can be worked around.

9000 spins is not necessarily bulletproof..........but pretty impressive for such a simple method.

Great work as always Ignatus!!!

Quote from: mogul397 on June 29, 2016, 12:26:16 AM
Somebody MIGH be playing it. Like Ignatius...

The problem that I have is I don't see the drawdowns that I experienced
in actual testing.  Don't really happen that often, but you see them.

Like I said, maybe some protection. I've seen NAthan say "3 losses in a row and we're out".
That kind of methodology.

When trading online the idea is to have a stop loss and let your profits run.

The largest dd I see on the above testing charts would be around 120 units deep (not sure the actual count of progression).

What dds did you see that concerned you?

Thanks!

My first concern is.......it's too simple. If this worked long-term, then someone would be playing it.

Having said that, the charts are impressive over thousands of spins.

It looks like a 500 unit dd would be safe given these charts, so maybe each game is to +500/-500 units........attempting to win 2 of 3 games.

This progression is pretty aggressive..........other more conservative progs might work better in the long-run.

This is the area that nearly every player avoids..........95% waiting for 5% action........everyone wants to play most spins.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually a practical way to beat the game.............not for the faint of heart.........but better than any mutual fund!!!

Hey AsymBacGuy,

What if you looked at how often this method would lose.......and then created a progression around that W/L record?

Example :

If you lose all 66 units let's call it 1 total bank loss. Now, the next series is the same..........trying to win the 66 units back.

Then if that is a loss, then we multiply the total bank x 2. Basically we are using a Labouchere with the total bank instead of each bet.

You would need to lose many banks (66 units each) to lose your entire stake. In this example your total stake might be 10 banks or more.

I call this a nested progression.......and you can use as many as you like to create a method.

Hey Blue,

I assume that this is different than the other (HG) method that you posted.

Can you post the rules?...........looks like a smaller dd than the other................or perhaps that's just the numbers selected.

Thanks! 

Quote from: Sputnik on March 16, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
The Perfect Gambling Solution!

How about combine both roulette system with advantage play, physics.
A hybrid using the best of two Worlds.

Cheers

The major problem with advantage play is that the casino can always stop bets as soon as the ball is released by the croupier........killing any AP strategy from my understanding.

However, combining something like sector play with other methods (like GUT) could produce some interesting results........as long as the player can handle the work-load.