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#31
Its just probability isn't it?
0.0000000005% chance of 36 reds in a row.
Once every 185 billion spins
#32
Dozen/Column / Re: Is this unusual?
August 18, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Mare on August 18, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Best answer :)


Seen that marque before years ago....I seem to remember this was a test without punters....maintainance test or something

If you are in the slightest bit interested....You would have to wait 94 Billion spins to see 7 numbers in a row.
#33
Arsenal - Palace.......and Manager Tony Pulis left Palace.....that can't help
#34
General Discussion / Re: 13 and 31
August 14, 2014, 09:24:32 PM

Some interesting stuff here, http://www.win-maxx.com/basics/


14 years on and a lot of this is still being thrashed out today


Van Keelen is one of them

The Van Keelen Test

Every serious system player is interested in an objective method, giving him information whether his system has a certain value and is going to produce a net profit in the long run.

Beside the "Statistical Ecart" and other test options, with which we will deal in one of the next issues of Basics, "the Van Keelen Test" is a simple measuring procedure, with which the player can determine the chances of success or failure of his system.

The Van Keelen Test, which was developed decades ago, will give the player information about the value of a system, and requires the player to check his system over a certain number of placed bets before he begins the practical play.
This again has the advantage that possible losses only develop on paper and not in reality at the table!

The Van Keelen Test sets into relationship the net gain of a system to the number of placed bets, whereby the minimum number of the placed bets checked for all chances must amount to at least 1000.

The units wagered must be of equal value; no progression is to be used! It is very important to point out that we speak here of placed bets, not spins!
To check a system over 1000 spins, has no meaning!

This testing method has the inestimable advantage that a system must be checked at least over 1000 placed bets, and on this basis a prediction about the value of the checked system is possible.

With 100000
*checked bets, even a negative result can be still another feature of a good system. Because if a system indicates a real superiority over ZERO, the possibility exists, that with an adapted progression continuous gains can be obtained.

Even-Money-Bets (Black/Red/Even/Odd/High/Low):
A system indicates a genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 100 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 60 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 1000 was obtained
*

Twelve-Number-Bets (Dozens/Collumns):
A system indicates a genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 50 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 50 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 2000 was obtained
*

Six-Number Bets (Lines):
A system indicates a genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 100 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 200 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 600 was obtained
*

#35
General Discussion / Re: 13 and 31
August 13, 2014, 09:46:14 PM
lol....ok...I succumb to your lyrical waxing.


See...I like milk, but wouldn't pour it over Fish and Chips. I like mystical stuff....but wouldn't pour it over roulette.


Gravy on fish and chips.....maths and probability on roulette (with a pinch of LOTT)
#36
General Discussion / Re: 13 and 31
August 13, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
Richard


With all due respect...I am surprised to see you give the time of day to the mumbo-jumbo of 31-13 and number reversal. It isn't viable and has no basis, only in the realms of supernatural. 13 doesn't follow 31 in any natural way....no more than 12 follows 0 or 35 follows 7.


Numbers follow each other more than once over time, and every pair (all 666 of them) will have its day where it hits more than most over a period of spins.


I wish I hadn't said 666 now because some "new age numeracy hippy" will latch on to it......so I change that to 1332 because each pair is reversible.





#37
As a Man City fan.....
City had 3 missing defenders at Wembley in Zabaletta, Kompany and Demachelis....who will be replaced by new signing Mangela. With Aguero and Fernandino back and Silva starting there will be no comparison to Sundays game.
#39
General Discussion / Re: 13 and 31
August 13, 2014, 10:42:57 AM
I did a big test on this and of course 13 followed 31 no more than any other...and what ever did show as being higher than average...say 2 follows 15....didn't in the next test.....so yes...some pairs hit higher than others in a sample..
I think its in here or cc.roulette called 31 follows 13...or 13 follows 31...can't remember
#40
Quote from: The Crow on July 02, 2014, 04:53:51 AM
This is not about how great a method or system works, or how simple or complicated it may be. It's about: Can thinking outside the box be taught? No, period.

Here's a thought: "F" the box. We need a box like we need intellectual guidance.

The Crow

"F" - Forget  <<<<<<<<Nice maneuver !
#41
Quote from: RouletteFan on June 26, 2014, 09:51:33 AM
hello

here is y LW registry  using this way of play describe by sputnik

i do it with 6 spin and seach the regerssion in the next 6 spins

LLWWLWLWWLLLLWLWLLLLWWLWLWW

sputnik do you have other LW registry to show us ?

is there anybody in this forum have made some test ?


I've tested this non stop. Considering SD 3.0 and what happens to unrepresented and over represented events with 6 results vs the next 6 results (you can pick any SD) but this can be done by eye on the marque.


For the purposes of this exercise, progression 123. Profit, profit, break-even (or lose 6)


I think you have to be able to play this instantly so you can Bet continuously.


What I mean by this is that if you wrote 6 results and compared looking for SOS or SSO or OSO or OSS etc...there is no reason to map this over and over in side by side lines.
You should be able to continue immediately in this fashion. You shouldnt be (in effect) virtual betting by charting
You should bet every spin


last no. >>>6 21 8 20 34 2 18 34 31 33 8 22 35


compare 9th with 3rd = S (31B 8B)
compare 8th with 2nd = S
compare 7th with 1st  = O


bet opposite of 6th = R

4L 6 21 8 20 34 2 18 34 31 33 8 22 35

bet opposite of 6th = B

36L 4L 6 21 8 20 34 2 18 34 31 33 8 22 35

bet opposite of 6th = R

1W 36L 4L 6 21 8 20 34 2 18 34 31 33 8 22 35

compare 9th to 3rd = S
compare 8th to 2nd = S
compare 7th to 1st  = O

bet opposite of 6th = R

11L 1W 36L 4L 6 21 8 20 34 2 18 34 31 33 8 22 35

bet opposite of 6th = B

26W 11L 1W 36L 4L 6 21 8 20 34 2 18 34 31 33 8 22 35

compare 9th to 3rd  =O
compare 8th to 2nd =S
compare 7th to 1st  = O

Bet SAME as 6th =B

29W 26W 11L 1W 36L 4L 6 21 8 20 34 2 18 34 31 33 8 22 35



#42
Sputnik.....in the real world...as you are fully aware....we encounter zero
What is your view on receiving a zero during qualifying phase
1 1 S
1 2 O
2 0
1
1
2

or during prediction phase
1 1 S
1 2 O
2 1 O
1 2 L
1 0
2


And.....the continuation to compare has a zero in the 6
#43
Now I get it. Bravo.
Its beautiful. I see GrandMaster combinations in Chess    that are beautiful...almost art. This is is same.
Now I need to study other lengths and SDs
Well done. Well shared
#44
Quote from: Mr J on June 21, 2014, 07:04:07 PM
Previous post..... I don't agree. I think roulette was designed for the idiots (such as) in order to play lucky numbers, birthdays etc.

As long as 99.5% of roulette players toss their chips on ANY stupid numbers for ANY stupid reason, the casino will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh!!!!

Ken


I was in the casino once, playing something clever and IMO...a edgy betselection...getting nowhere. As I played, my birthday (22) hit like this 22,22,22,13,22


My lucky number is 13....lol I didn't have 22 or 13


True story.



#45
Sputnik....


Thanks.


I have read it several times....and will read it again tomorrow. I have to admit that I am not fully getting it all.