Garnaby....you talk in riddles mate. Complete bonkers

Pivot is coded in rx from new. It comes with it

Awww....bless him.
Actually....can I bless the Pope?

Quote from: Albalaha on August 06, 2013, 02:43:10 AM
What is the relevance of this data? It only talks of extremes witnessed of sleepers and repeaters.[smiley]cps/noway.gif[/smiley]

Albalaha
The relevance is roulette. it's a roulette forum....this is roulettte data.
Its interesting. It provokes thought and discussion in those who like to discuss stats and maths to help them see what they are up against.
Another relevance is that sleepers arnt something of myth from zillions of spins. They are there in every number instantly in some group.
It hopefully will be understood by newbies...and people who don't understand the relevance..

test 2....a good one this


275 spins there are 6 sleepers. tracking 89 spins.


(6 sleepers : 4, 5, 7, 10, 15, 28)


8
22
11
6  HIT...slept 93
35
29       
26             
33     
25     
17     
19     
27 (6 sleepers 4,7,10,12,15,28)
5
0
22
20
22
4   HIT slept 95 (6 sleepers 7,19,12,14,28)
1
28 HIT slept 91 (6 sleepers 3,7,19,12,14,15)
22
17
3  HIT slept 92

OK mate

its hard retyping a post...no  memory of what I typed.


Basically, I ran the above file for 89 and got 6 sleepers...that 6 group hit in the next 4....sort of backing up the limit in the 12 Million spins.

Hmmmm,,,MODS?


I didn't type reply 3 ?....and wheres my post gone that Bayes clearly read?

Quote from: Bayes on August 05, 2013, 07:14:18 PM

Strictly speaking, the theory doesn't say that. Actually, it's not even a theory,
Sorry...Im not saying it's a theory, I meant my theory for the purposes of this experiment.
but the empirical data says that it's unlikely you'll get more than 93 spins without a sleep, it doesn't say that given that it has slept for 89 spins, it will show in the next 4 (but it's an easy mistake to make).
No, but Im practically testing the 12M spin data...that's all
Also, it's worth keeping in mind that SOME selection of 6 numbers will always be a long sleeper, you just don't know which 6 in advance.
You do if you find 6 sleepers when tracking 89...which just happens time and again.


Think about the so called "law of the third" which says that after 37 spins there will be 12-13 numbers which haven't hit. That means that every 37 spins there is a group of numbers equivalent to a dozen or column (at least) which are still sleeping, but systems based around betting on those sleepers to wake up haven't been very successful. Mind you, with careful MM, you can do pretty well playing that way.

Basically Bayes, Im playing around...its like a party trick...but a serious party trick.
Like Dad spinning a bucket of water at the kids party and not spilling a drop.
Fun trick...but a great way to demonstrate centrifugal forces.


One other thing that can be gained.
Say I am at 89, and have 6 sleepers and it doesn't hit until 112.


there's a new max ..so how many spins to see the true max....40Million?


And how on earth am I seeing these long test maximums in 2 minuets without trying.


400K spins saw a line sleep 65.
12 Million sees 93
I see 93 in 2 minutes...This is what is itching at me.

QuotePerhaps sleepers are always at their limit in one group or another....somewhere in the roulette universe
isn't that worth thinking about.

Exactly. The number of possible combinations of 6 numbers out of 37 is 2,324,784 

Wow...i wasn't far out x1.5 to turn 500k into millions of spins
So....playing inside...there is a max waiting to happen every spin.

Bally....i tried to find thay 3mill test but couldnt. I wanted to see if my x1.5 estimate was true

Quite often I do something like this to see if something else emerges.
I was trying to find random limits.
I found by experiment that lines sleep as high as 95spins
I ran many tests until i saw a line which had slept for 85....and simply bet them in rhe knowledge it would hit in no more than 10..it did.
86...87...88 gets increasingly hard to find.
Its just a thought experiment really.
don't confuse this with "cofusing random" or "giving random something to think about" or other pearls from JL and pattern breakeresque systems.
Im just trying to see the sleeping limits.

odd and low are the same - 40
high and even are the same - 40


that's about as interesting as it gets

Sputnik


Well...one way is to track 87 spins and keep going until 6 are sleeping. then bet on them as agressively as you like....one will hit in 4 spins...


I got this to work wonderfully. It would also be a way of testing RNG online. Im going to do it.


This works many times on Permenanzen