We promise to get there before you say, "Aw, geez!!"

Vic

I simply don't know how you do it!!

Sam

Folks and people; friends and neighbors!

In Atlanta, Georgia, they don't like the snow.  Few snow plows and all.....

Poor people were stranded in their cars for up to 13 hours.

Question:  Where does a body go?  I mean, literally, when you gotta go, you gotta go.  Mother Nature waits for no man.

A TwoCat Solution:

HELIPOTTY!!

We have a huge, weight bearing helicopter carry in a multiple row of porta-pottys.  Maybe up to 20 or more.

$5 to tinkle; $10 to poop!

With the new technology, we could take plastic!!

So, who's got some roulette winnings they'd like to invest? 

I think it's a sure thing!!

TwoCat

Pockets

I have done some real-money play with your idea.  I think I won .33!

I quit when I came to a problem.  Let's say you go through the first 36 spins.  You go to virtual and wait for a hit.  Then you resume at level 1.  Question:  Do you just keep betting at that level until you finally get a hit on the selected number?  And then resume at level 6?

Question 2:  I'm not sure when you should double your bet.  After losing X number of bets?  What?

Sam

All

I spoke to Nick about writing the sheet to test this.  No, I don't have the 15,000 in Excel format and I'm sure not going to type them all in.  However, I have tons of spins from Dublin and Smart Live which the bot will import and test. 

But I have decided I'm just too fragile for such an undertaking.  If the idea wins, I might have a heart attack from pure joy.  If it loses, I might get out the old Smith and Wesson.  (And if it did win, I'd be caught on the horns of a dilemma:  Do I tell?  Do I move to Jersey?)

Besides, people who know know it won't work anyway.  Why should we try anything on this forum anymore?  Let's just get us a panel of "experts" and ask them.  Oops, I got on my soapbox again!!

TwoCat

Bayes

My statement should have been separated from yours by a mile.  Did not try to piggy-back you in any way.  I have published that belief for years--right or wrong.  Sorry.....

I once read, and I paraphrase, <While the wheel has no memory, we must treat it as if it does.>

Rather sorry I ever posted on this thread!!

Sam

The question as to whether outcomes actually ARE independent is a different matter, and you can't get the answer by just logical reasoning, but GF is a logical error.---From Bayes

Guys

I don't need Bayes approval or disapproval--or anyone else's for that matter--but I've always thought of him as one of the people who make sense in a senseless environment.  So I'm not trying to "get on his good side".

As I read the above statement, I must assume the jury is still out in Bayes' mind as to whether spins are independent or not. 

I have long stated--before I heard of Bayes--that certain numbers inspire other numbers to come.  When Nick has has time to catch his breath, I am going to ask him to write the ultimate test sheet to prove or disprove this theory.  I was just waiting for Stef to complete the import feature on the bot.  I can test thousands of spins quickly.

Notice I said prove or disprove.  Lord knows, I could be wrong!!!   

Samster

A man scammed 10 people out of 5,000 somethings--Euros, Pounds, Dollars, Drachmas, Skins--doesn't matter.  He sold them the "Holy Grail"!!  Of course, it wasn't.  But, lo, he found the true "Grail".  Now, does he have a moral obligation to give those ten people this "Grail"?  After all, they paid!

Study on that one.....

Sam

Thanks, Bayes.

Bayes

Whether you or anyone else believes it, I am not working under any GFs.  I said, basically, a number would come up sooner or later--eventually.  Now a person can believe that statement or they can believe that the number in question will never come.  Which is most likely?

So I pick a number, say 6.  I can, with a fair amount of certainty, say that 6 will come up eventually.  It may be hit the next spin or 160 spins later, I don't know.  I do know this:  If I mark that number 6 and it does not come up in 100 spins, it is 100 spins closer to the eventuality of hitting.

I can't believe this is so hard to understand.

I know I am going to die--eventually!  Every day I live, I am one day closer to the Reaper!

Not you, Bayes, but some people are so salivating to find that a person made a tiny mistake so they can jump on that person.  Sickening...

TwoCat

Please let the debate go on.  Bayes has put his foot down, or so it would seem.

So it is basically a reduction of volatility.

This thread begs the question:  Do we still miss him?

Sir, your post is worth no longer a response than this!

OK

I have studied this and it is beastly simple.  I suspect Nick could easily create a sheet for the ExcelBot and we could just plug in a number and see what shakes out.

Nick and I are currently working on an idea I stole and when we're finished with that, I'll approach him about this. 

I would do this:  I would wait for a number to sleep X number of times and then use it for the sought-after number.  While some may disagree with this, I feel it is indisputable fact:  When something does not happen, it moves one spin closer to happening.  Example:  We know the zero will eventually hit.  If it did not hit this spin, it is one spin closer to hitting.  So why not move a tad closer??

Samster