Quote from: greenguy on September 30, 2014, 07:40:30 AMWhy is it that Victor's forums are the ONLY ones that ever asked for money from members?

1) My country isn't particularly #1 in the web hosting field. We don't have easy access to foreign currency here, so yes, the sites have been running thanks to the generosity of members.

2) At times it has been to sponsor a new forum feature or piece of software. That's all

Quote from: greenguy on September 30, 2014, 07:40:30 AMIn the past I have donated, and quite a bit too, even set up monthly auto payment through paypal for a while, but NEVER again.

I've never been afforded any real gratitude for my charity, and have usually been treated as less than one of the free loaders. So now you lot can pay up, as I for one am done.

For the record...

I publicly express a big thank you for your generosity.

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Also thanks a lot for being around. We aren't driven by seeking financial support but we have a true drive to build a community of gentlemen. You are one.

We continue advancing.
This is one of the release candidate versions for your enjoyment:

100% FREE Download page: http://betselection.cc/download/

Instructions:

1) Unzip.
2) Run BetSoftware_Loader.exe

...You can guide yourself on usage by following this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84te4sVxTto

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Next:

- Excel sheets to module.

@All fellows.

Thanks for the concern and support.

1) Let's get past it . Nobody's aiming at looting the mentioned $30! Certainly not me, nor mods. This was strictly for site support.

2) Rest assured this is being addressed. We're having a viable software product for us to gather enough funds a month, with only six (6) "fiver" sales required to sustain ourselves.

This all occurred out of my belief of a September release, but making these sort of unlimited-flexibility architectures isn't trivial. Good thing is we have it already available this month and we're populating a new subscription already, including versions of our new "reboot" software released.

I'm mostly working for this in the "night shift". (Read late-night hours).

Yes, I've been a living zombie for the past few weeks, but it has been worth. It is finished, it currently consumes the all-popular Excel sheet format, has unlimited expand-ability and we're set to bring a very positive "silent revolution" to our small community of forums, where everyone gets something good.

The "core" of it is free and open, so coders from other communities (not just English-based, but world-wide) can grab the sources and re-use our software works at http://github.com/betselection/

We as BetSelection.cc are getting the benefit of being the "Official upstream" / headquarter; hosting added-value services, early previews, etc.

These sort of open architectures have proven themselves. We retain the main benefit of being the Official source, so we can expect an influx of users from all other gambling communities which benefit from it (Spanish, German, French, Italian, etc.).

We are in fact upgrading our community to another octave this October. Everyone's invited and welcome to participate from it.

Back to coding.
Vic

Agreed wholeheartedly dear Sumit.

We give it "goodies"!

Chances are it's the new post page. I'm currently balacing local work + BetSoftware.

Since the new post page seems to be the most wanted mod, that's where 'web coding' time should be spent more heavily .

(BTW, you can follow progress on BetSoftware's public sources at: http://github.com/betselection)

October's young

Quote from: wannawin on September 29, 2014, 02:57:21 AMSorry friends.

No harm. It is the most natural reflex to these internet support campaigns. Entirely reasonable, nothing to be concerned about with us here.

Quote from: wannawin on September 29, 2014, 02:57:21 AMwe are stingy community

Not true. This community is a generous one. It is a community worth giving our efforts and time.

Support is not only measured in money, there are other forms of support worth much more than the one attached to the currency sign.

At this time the regular fellows may have passed, but it doesn't mean they are enemies nor does it mean they stand against us. It means we have to re-gain them by offering more, to make us worth of their kindness again 

Hello dear Walter,

Please rest assured it is for sustaining the website, not for our personal gain.

Regards.

To Esoito and Adulay:

Thank you guys for the time and effort you put into this. It is true: Being a moderator is an unpaid job, not only is it unpaid but most of the times a thankless one too. The kind fellows who do it have to bear with plenty of matters, for the benefit of all folks. In this sense it is a heroic job.

That's why we only have two; fellows our whole community respects and values.

Recent events made me realize the little I have expressed my supportive stand; in private, yes I have, but in public I haven't expressed my support for fellow mods enough.

In trying to be as impartial (or center-leaning) for having the less friction in threads, I have at times left mods with the lesser end of my public support.

I just wanted to comment I fully support Esoito's actions. Our forum is what it is thanks to him in a lot of ways. He is basically the main mod, and he is -in practice- the most instrumental person in giving our place its brand as a place with high standards in moderation.

So, in this opportunity I wanted to comment -openly- I fully, in an unabated way, support Esoito and his actions. I trust him entirely and I am grateful for all he does and his support towards myself and towards us. He is truly a cornerstone of our community.

Also, I'd like to say I fully support Adulay in the same standard. He is one fine guy who can smell right from wrong -both game-wise as well as forum-infractions wise-, in a one-mile radius.

We are very fortunate to have Adulay in our moderation team since he's perhaps one of the most savvy members from our scene; with many years of dealing with our communities, particularly in baccarat. I can't thank him enough either.

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Our small BetSelection community benefits from their unselfish support 24/7. We are around 50-60 active members; we are -in fact- a team: admin, mods and users alike. All of us make our small part to stand here. We can rest assured to get along smoothly thanks to the mediation of fellow mods.

To Esoito and Adulay, my utmost personal support.

P.S. If you can drop a line of support for our mods, by all means do so too. They are doing it from their heart.

Regards.
Vic

October is our anniversary month. Chances are we'll give our forum a "goodie" in the form of either a re-install or new features such as in-house games (time permitting).

We can't let our 2nd anniversary  pass without celebrating our space [smiley]skype/yes.gif[/smiley]

Thanks for your encouragement words. Hopefully some supporting fellows assist. 1st due date (main server) is on the 28th.

At least one more tenner would get it covered.

In the grand scheme of life, this represents just a little individually; yet in our small online world this timely support means a lot

Nice to hear from you Mr. G!

I'm a persistent fellow. The focus is certainly here. Only eventually would we "spill" to other communities when our internet 'wares are good enough for allowing it. Without disruption of our community. I have learned from the past.

...Yes, I have to work by day, but I can be a coding super-hero at night

This forum is built upon an open-source "core" used by other forums; A platform entirely engineered by me would mean a different "beast". We have the time, and we're slowly building the support.

There's still plenty of innovation to be made in programs for our small gambling-oriented world. That's our starting point

My friend, I feel way under-estimated at my current jobs. I'm basically doing the same thing over and over and over; I'd rather explode creativity to the max!

BetSelection.cc is instrumental in building the core for a new tech-oriented spin-off to appear. I aim to be (eventually) making a living off the new site; rest assured I don't aim to make a living from the members here, but rather to give to them. Still, support for our site here is utmost important since we are the seeders to it. We are set to develop our new web engine, for our own internal use first, then it is expected to attract others as it is seen in use, so it kick-starts the programming languages then when it's solid, eventually the OS.

In short, we are the initial and most important core step.

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I'd be happier building new technologies to make life a better and easier experience to internet fellows, rather than making roughly the same database-oriented programs time and time again. Yes it helps, but the fun to do such jobs is gone; a long time ago.

Now, the great thing is the BetSoftware framework is a fresh venue we are exploring, creating from scratch, building our own protocols and making creative solutions to our coding needs. Love "IT"!

BTW: -Curiously enough- web technologies, programming languages and operating systems are never-ending endeavors, so it's the sort of technologies you "marry" for a lifetime. If everything goes right, we end-up creating "cult" technologies, starting with BetSoftware here. A very positive revolution from which each of the people involved (other coders and users alike) get a share of the benefits.

Like you imply, empowering the creation of this: is worth doing.

Cheers!

Thanks to A.D. for giving $10, making it:

20/30

We're a community, thanks for expressing kindness towards all of us.

Our new BetSoftware is cross-platform. It is certified to work under Windows and Linux, but we need a real/physical MacOS user (not virtual machine) to confirm it works on a regular Mac setup exactly "as is, on the wild".

If you are a Mac user who's willing to give it a try and report back your experience, there's a complimentary pass for you!

This is one exciting piece of software integrating multiple technologies. Covering Windows, Linux and Mac is definitely a way to make it wide-reaching on the desktop.

If you're a willing Mac owner, kindly send a PM or "shout" below.

Cheers!

Our goal for September is only $50:

Thanks to P.P. for giving $10, making it:

10/40

Hopefully more kindness follows as we all deserve our community to be safe and well.