Puzzling - can post here but not on my XXVV section. I have been assured this will be fixed soon - and I am very grateful but have been unable to post very interesting results to my testing and a new method for nearly 2 weeks. R

okay that is working but unable to post on my  XXVV section at this stage...

testing - unreliable post function

Sincere thanks for your work and timing Gizmo.

I am very fortunate to be tuned in here at this time and place, and to access your insights, terminology, parallels and cross over strategies from the market traders.

The ridiculous and absurd exclusion of roulette from RQ or risk intelligence analysis will be shown to be flawed, and that to our considerable advantage under the radar.

Perfect timing.  Much exciting work and application ahead.

Thank you. R.

Quote from: greenguy on September 08, 2016, 12:01:21 AM
If it's all about beating online roulette from the comfort of your own home, I would forget that too.

Online casinos are a disaster area. They will pull every trick in the book to ensure you either lose, or can't withdraw your winnings, or disconnect you , or ban you for the slightest reason if they see you winning.

You can't beat them because they don't play fair. They move the goal posts around constantly so you can never kick a goal.

All I can value is my own experience, and the collective experience of those I trust as friends and colleagues. Nevertheless from my own work with Dublin Bet, and 888 live, and a dozen others on a recommended list I have had no trouble in successful deposit, action and withdrawal, with the caveat of constant vigilance and avoidance of the various traps that may lead to disaster.

#1  home connection must have  limitless capacity broadband
#2  never accept any bonus offers
#3  make regular modest withdrawals of accumulated profit and play in 2 week cycles then move on
#4  timing as always is paramount and select your live action time with local action to enable sufficient analysis time
#5  888 casino live has one format which is simple roulette and no punters and 30 min dealer changes like clockwork
#6  enable occasional losses - this is not hard to do but endeavour to have gains outweigh losses
#7  play by the rules and record all transactions and outcomes

My preference is always a live casino and I have the luxury of an excellent casino 10 mins walk from my studio. Nevertheless the internet casinos have their uses. As I have written it is essential to prepare and train ( before going live) for every different casino setting. They are like different universes with unique characteristics.

Further, from listening to casino regulars yesterday in conversation in a live setting, you realize the mental patterns, expectations, and biased viewpoints of many punters is disastrous in its negativity and blaming everyone else for failure other than examining themselves and their poor choices that lead to loss. I heard one woman say to another 'regular' -  'don't you get sick of losing?'- with the implied and anticipated negative reinforcement in such language - - all losers together in the one sad ship.

It does not have to be like this but one essential is to steer clear of such noise, disruption, and work quietly and professionally alone, preferably in a Private Members Room ( not required on the internet) - not for cynicism or superiority - but for sanity, in the sense of 'good health' so you give yourself the best chance for success.

Confidence based on proven application of your specialised knowledge is what follows.

I endeavour to use my time and energy increasingly 'efficiently' as I learn to prioritise more in accord with my values. This a bio-feedback loop and I support and encourage that which works and ignore that which fails.

Likewise in dealing with roulette forums I give massive priority to BetSelection.cc because it is the rolls-royce of content and participants managed by a top professional team. Rarely but occasionally I look at Roulette30 or Roulette Forum. These two latter are blighted by poor moderation and an executive decision to permit trolls and divisive content. Nevertheless I would always want to give credit where it is due and I have frequently congratulated Steve on his table roulette game at rouletteplayers.org where three of my players bach, oasis and kubrick are on the leaderboard. It provided a useful training ground but now because I am a full time professional roulette player I have no further time or need for that device. It had its uses.

I came across a post on that forum written by 'The General' who is of course Caleb, Xander, Real, and a host of other facades. This troll was noting the 'demise' of roulette 30. Of course once again he got it wrong and Steve had stepped in to remind Kav while he was away for a few days that his forum had gone off line. Perhaps it illustrates the fine margin line such entities operate upon - there cannot be much income there, and it is' a nest of vipers' while managed by weak moderation. I wrote a rare piece there to sum my views of Caleb and his actions. Although apparently, I am advised by a colleague he is a specialist in mathematics, his manner and actions are disgusting ( such as his personal attacks on the late Dr Martin Blakey)  and to me represents a sink-hole in internet ethics and communication values. Best to steer well clear.

Control, discipline and order, ie restriction is a fundamental requirement of true freedom and this is a fundamental Life Principle. The nihilists have no idea of these universal principles as they do not recognize  such. Some mathematicians seem to adopt stone wall fixed attitudes which are so restrictive that fresh ways of looking at a problem are denied. Such is the case regarding Cluster Analysis in roulette where individual spin outcomes, although independent, are also inter-connected. Both - this seems hard for some to grasp, yet such is a characteristic of Quantum Mechanics in our real world.

Thus anarchists, nihilists and individuals with no worthwhile tested value systems are as children, as yet ignorant of more adult life.
And yes I am trying to become more adult in my life as I have an increasing framework and matrix order upon which I build. I encourage all my students to do such, and all my friends, and those with whom I have regular contact have their own, all unique and at differing stages of development. But this is actually what Life is all about - growth and development. It is an exciting and passionate life, and what I really love, it has no limits.

By contrast, from time to time in your travels, and in your reading, you will encounter 'entities' that are negative, cynical, and impossible to deal with. The smartest way is to detour and ignore them. Occasionally they interact and it is always really unsatisfactory. They are so unpleasant to deal with. One such is the recent interaction with Jake on this forum - who just does not get it, and with whom, and with a few like him, are real time wasters in that you can put in a vast amount of time and information and it will be like throwing knowledge down a well - pointless. My comment is the attitude that is wrong - not a personal attack on Jake. Curiosity, and openness to new ideas and potential growth is what is required, from me and those with whom I communicate.  Whether university students, friends, colleagues, correspondents, readers - I seek out the inter-action and exchange where we are all respected and can progress and move forward. That is what I try to encourage through this medium and again I give massive thanks to the Moderators and Vic at BetSelection.cc.

Best
XXVV
R.  September 2016

Thanks Plolp. Yes the software crashes and cancels your game if you try to combine columns and EC bets with the inside table bets you have described. That happened to me several times so I now bet only on inside table.

Congratulations to have reached the extreme amount and bet efficiency, but may I ask how did you select your winning targets with such regular success in order to build the huge total. There must have been many times where you bet only very few targets?

Thanks for your reply.

Quote from: Gizmotron on August 23, 2016, 02:15:54 AM
XXVV, that's a nice tome.

I was recalling my experience with the winner of the Northern California Architecture award for that year in the field of high density apartment complexes. I was the builder. They were the prize winners. They billed me for $25,000 back in 1985 money for being asked to explain parapets that seemed to hang in mid-air, parapets that they didn't see in their plans. You probably know that the connection of various units don't actually connect properly when there are 350 units of them. So we called them "the in the air a bit parapets." I thought it the absolute excess of hubris that they actually had the gall to charge me for a possible breach of contract had I actually built them. Anyone contracting with the bank investors knew they were required to build "as per plan." Those are words that stand up in court. You can take your "Teen Spirit" oops, team spirit and pound dirt. I billed the esteemed winner $25,000 for pointing out the FLAW and they never bothered me again. So stick up for your trade if you want to, but I'm never going to be a fan.

And just for name dropping references, my grandfather was the city engineer for Berkeley, Oakland, and San Rafael California. He worked with frank lloyd wright. Frank gave my grandmother the right to live at vikingsholm emerald bay for that relationship.


My nephew got a full boat ride to MIT in architectural engineering. He went back there to get his Masters too. I went to his graduation.  I'm still the smartest a-hole in the room. So don't try to cheer lead your grand expression of existence to me. I'm a dyed in the wool, life long cynic. I will never come around to architects do impeccable work.

No worries. As students we were taught the value of 'Skyhooks' - in Australia this principle is so celebrated that the Aussies formed a band to celebrate this  in 1973.  My all time US/NZ hero is Prof Maurice Smith, a New Zealander, who retired not so long ago as Professor of Architecture at MIT. His house at Indian Hill in Massachusetts was stunning and is still a benchmark for me. He brought together Art and Science, Thoreau and Field Theory, TreeHouses and Gaudi.

Nevertheless, no-one does 'impeccable' work.

Good luck with your School.

Quote from: Gizmotron on August 23, 2016, 12:54:24 AM

I assure you that chewing up architects for a living was the national pastime for me. But that is another story. Here's the dirty little secret. County inspectors or rejects from architect's school who think they are qualified engineers. And architects themselves are lazy intellectuals that think they can bluff their way through their own mistakes. Here's the professional secret. When they charge you to fix their F-Ups, you charge them right back for the same amount, for pointing them out in the first place. It doesn't completely suck to be the builder in charge.


Better try a new metaphor bub.

Oh dear. Did I hear the word 'Architect' ?

In litigious USA would you care to be more specific as to the specific professional you cite?

This Architect ( xxvv) is not a 'lazy intellectual', and throughout my 43 years of professional practice ( domestic to commercial) in NZ, Australia, and overseas in pacific islands, as well as 12 years with a busy commercial practice in an emerging buoyant booming Port Moresby PNG, no one has ever accused me of that, but I have certainly heard and seen many viewpoints from Builders, sometimes very critical of course, but also sometimes offering congratulations.

Building is a team effort and everyone, I mean everyone, is important to bring their collective skills to the table, where literally the end result is more than the sum of the parts, at best. At worst there are complications and as with any profession there are majors, mediums, and also minors. Like much in society our reputation is precious and yes we are only as good as our last work. Doctors can bury their mistakes but Architects have to grow vines to hide theirs (FLW).

In New Zealand, the tradition has been, until recently with increasing BIM documentation and some specialisation, that Architects were exceptional good all-rounders. We were able to do a lot of things really well, and adapted well to change or challenge because of relative isolation. The NZ farmer is also famous for the #8 wire solution, a tradition of improvisation and entrepreneurial flexibilty developed by necessity - the mother of invention.

So it is surprising Gizmo to hear you generalise so fundamentally in the land where my hero Frank Lloyd Wright ( he had his enemies also) and the ageless Frank Gehry ( some people hate his work also but refer to the Lou Ruvo Centre Hospital for Brain Health he designed in Las Vegas - seek the Founder's views on the role of the Architect there) produce wonders with very colourful very full lives - both did and will work into their nineties.

Never wise to generalise Gizmo because you lose credibility as there are always exceptions.

The gripes of Builders on house sites may be common but, as in all areas of life we do better when we realize we are all inter-dependent, and the trick ( which I try with students/ builders/clients) is to see the essential uniqueness in every individual and bring that, the best, out in everyone. Even a 10% strike rate makes a big difference in your life experience, and thus results.

Now we know that 'Mr' Law is quite challenging, to the point of cynicism, however view this as an opportunity ( thank 'Mr' Law) to dig deep and explain yourself with new found crystal clarity. Avoid generalisations as they are always flawed.

Kind regards
R.  XXVV

Yes I noticed this- have you written to Steve, or post a question on the Roulette Forum thread featuring rouletteplayers.org table ?

I was going to congratulate you on your earlier outstanding success. How did you reach such an astonishing rate of earning working within the strict controls on the table?  The most I can earn in one success is about 20,000 units with one target hot + splits + corners + street + col + doz + EC.

My best rate of earning it appears can go no higher than about 1.20 over 200 spins because I target 16 numbers.

Look forward to hearing from you.
R
xxvv

Consider images observed/ created ( always patterns) imbued with full application of all our sense experiences in total detail and focus, and charged with emotion that for example might be to really passionately wish for a best result.

That is thinking - selecting images and overlaying emotion.

Even better thinking is then to consider improving the images as skill improves, and better, more appropriate choices are made.

We are surrounded by opportunity to create and give form to our desires.

Ask yourself what is 'Mind' ?  What is 'Consciousness' ?  What is 'Life' ?

Questions are always thought in action and illustrate intelligence.

Always question.

Wherever there is Consciousness, Life expression, there is 'building' ( at all levels).  Consciousness builds.

Inherently we are always looking for and finding 'patterns'. Patterns are expressions of consciousness ( at all levels).

Realize your images as a growing 'built' demonstration of your skills.

When better choices are made we are assisted to realize and give enriched form to our selected desires. and build more complex and more beautiful patterns.

This thread is exactly such, a string of linked images forming a pattern, a message.

Implicit in this message is that we build, build, and re-build our world. We are always seeking to find better ways/ solutions - this is what Consciousness is/ does - always expanding.

I imagine the overview is to establish as quickly as possible the waveband of the loss cycle, and a range amongst several loss cycles, then to compare them to the other polarity, ie win cycles.

Yes as always you will seek to minimise damage in loss, and enhance power in win cycles.

So you need to establish the bet characteristics on several samples of real spin sourced samples.as to stability/ instability and duration/ range of win/loss extremes. Experience has taught me that a wide range of locations is essential as astonishingly, locations themselves vary enormously in grand cycle ( 100,000 plus spin samples) behaviour.

This is a massive task and you might ask, why would this bet work?   What factor might provide the edge? 

The sample you have provided is skewed ominously downward, although of course it is merely a glimpse of a bigger picture.

Hopefully your friends on Roulette30 may encourage further research also.

Roulette is capable of generating a very large number of theoretical bets. I respectfully suggest with any new idea you conduct a range of say 10 samples of sufficient statistical significance to provide any encouragement/ evidence that the idea has worth, or else you may waste a lot of time.

Just a quick note.

Thanks Gizmotron for what you intend to do.

I shall be reading with great interest and am confident you will succeed in communicating that which is worthwhile. Remember of course that it is worthwhile communicating with those ( few) 'who have eyes to see, or ears to hear' - ie, an attitude ( a manner of thinking + feeling ) of being 'open' and 'responsive' to  ideas that challenge the currently accepted norms. Others may be dismissive or closed to change but stop/ go is the manner of human progress , ie closed/ open as polarities of our miracle of consciousness.

The occasional nihilist remarks from Mike are amusing and of course when taken to the boundaries of mainstream experience are absurd. Ask him also to address some questions to Thomas. The Magician, although you may find Thomas is smart enough to not get drawn in to such time consuming matters. From what he has made public already there is no need to explain further but instead admire.

Mike acts as if there are no professional players in roulette, or successful long term winners, perhaps in any casino game.  Outside of his sphere of comfortable rationalisation astonishing progress has been made in much more accessible research into roulette. What had been thought impossible is becoming more possible, but that is not my story to tell.  I am sure the next 5 years will see remarkable revelations. So good hunting to Gizmo and his followers.

For what it is worth I would rate and value very highly indeed the ordered information and principles that Gizmotron discusses and I hope he achieves a dedicated band of students, along the lines I believe The Magician, Thomas Leor has achieved also via this wonderful Forum. It is very much to the credit of Victor and his excellent Moderators that this environment has been established and now flourishes.
R.

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 14, 2016, 01:32:08 PM
Your explanation is a great example of pragmatism based on current state observation.

Here's an opportunity for you. When a column and a dozen both sleep at the same time you have an occurrence of the same 16 numbers hitting while the situation continues. You can place 4 corner bets or 8 split bets to cover these 16 numbers.

Here is an amusing situation last night from the table where I play under the name Palladio ( as well as early experiments with xxvv and xxvv#2).  Table is at www.rouletteplayers.org

My RB crashed from 100,000 to 70,000 while I was on the wrong side of this event. The protocols on the table are skewed somewhat ( ie table limits and no zero splits as well as limit on zero so could not recover as I would on a truly live table - nevertheless it is a great game and am very grateful for its existence thanks to SH - also I understand it is live spin data edited together ( that is problematic at the seams).

Have a look at the number sequence here ( European wheel) and you will see later an extraordinary and extended skew.

10
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23
18
19
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When I look at this outcome in the fresh light of a new day I ask well what was the problem?  My problem was that I lost my way and lost the the simple corner format that quite neatly deals with absurd skews. Also I could only place a few chips on 19 while on a live table it would have been loaded to the house limits by me -lol.

It taught me a lesson last night to not lose 'focus' on game plan. Had the basic MB 16 be played on a short 2 phase progression ( risk of loss of RB 432 units) the end result here, once the initial hurdle of 6-2 was overcome the net return should/ would have been a healthy +154 units. My disaster here ( learning opportunity) was to try to overlay incorrect 'predictive' methodology targeting streets and columns that ignored a total block yet which was in itself a brilliant opportunity - ie 19.

What was skewed was the absence of A streets, ie 1-2-3/13-14-15/25-26-27   and also absence of 9 numbers from the first column, 1-25 incl, until 19 came along!

Hope this is of interest.

Thanks for your comments and am grateful to the host of this thread for permitting this discussion which will be continued on the MB 16 thread where we will look at Collision Bets.