I found this on the board:
"I think "scammer" is too strong a word here. Looking at VRSEDGE's web site it seems that he's selling software tools which enable users to create their own systems based on parameters built into the platforms. There are no claims or guarantees that anyone will definitely win by using them. He is not selling a system or systems and claiming that they are infallible.
But since the forum has a new owner, perhaps a review of the rules regarding advertising and/or selling might be in order? There are several members doing this, including Gizmotron who is now looking for more students. I quote : "PM me if you want private tutoring." -- Gizmotron. (https://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/for-those-who-think-house-edge-or-negative-expectation-is-the-sole-culprit/msg63571/#msg63571) "
And it was posted by 'Mike'. He has the same thing or variations of it posted in about 3 member's threads, Vrsedge's, Albalaha's and Gizmo's.
I will clarify. Refer to the Board's Rule #6 please. More specifically, just a few words within that you in particular need to focus on, understand and absorb. Here, I will make it a tad bit easier for you:
"No sales or published links of any kind to any commercial cause/website/program or item, without the express permission of the Board Moderators or the Administrators.
No direct selling or linking to a member's or member's affiliate of any kind without the express permission of the Board Moderators or the Administrators. "
As well: I posted yesterday the following;
Known members versus unknown members things are taking into a Different Light.
As far as selling something, a known member that's a real person, that has history here if that's what he does for a living or a legitimate sideline and he is known and has as a decent reputation along with that of his product, without giving an endorsement on behalf of the board, that's one story. To me that's acceptable no matter who the member is.
Now if it's a person that signs on with no history or a few posts and all of a sudden he's selling some type of product or service and he never introduced himself and I don't know who he is and no references, entirely different picture and that is what's clearly not allowed.
And don't bring it where it's selective but it's an overall picture as to if it's a reputable member or an unknown member that's a possible scam. And again my board does not endorse any commercial product. And if I do endorse something, it means that I personally checked it out and I believe in it and I've done more research rather than just making sure the person is a reputable person and those are going to be few and far in-between, meaning the endorsements of commercial products or services on this board.
We all have seen on this board as well as numerous other boards of all kinds, the new or relatively new sign up member, comes on and greets everyone and immediately begins posting links to other sites of all types and then into direct sales. Or, a variation where he will possibly accomplish 3 or 5 or even 10 posts and then enter into the same thing. They usually do not do the latter because it takes time to do, even 30 mins of posting over a few days is way too much for these types. A perfect example was that so-called gambling book author we had last year on this board. But there are thousands of scammers, systems sellers, website gambling affiliates, etc., Those are the ones that are not allowed, will be axed and deleted as soon as they post.
As I said, known members are viewed in a different light. This is not an endorsement of their product or service, it is merely allowing them to express themselves, refer to their business or sideline, and allow them to use this board as a vehicle in a subtle way--even if it entails a commercial venture on their behalf. However, it is no different than a shopping mall with a merchant that rents space from the mall. The mall is not responsible for the content or the merchant's actions. However, if the merchant is fraudulent or present himself in a non-professional way and becomes a liability for the mall, the mall can and will terminate his lease because he did not act within standard business and community practices. Same here. End of story.
Now, that should be enough and fully explains, 'what is what'.
"I think "scammer" is too strong a word here. Looking at VRSEDGE's web site it seems that he's selling software tools which enable users to create their own systems based on parameters built into the platforms. There are no claims or guarantees that anyone will definitely win by using them. He is not selling a system or systems and claiming that they are infallible.
But since the forum has a new owner, perhaps a review of the rules regarding advertising and/or selling might be in order? There are several members doing this, including Gizmotron who is now looking for more students. I quote : "PM me if you want private tutoring." -- Gizmotron. (https://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/for-those-who-think-house-edge-or-negative-expectation-is-the-sole-culprit/msg63571/#msg63571) "
And it was posted by 'Mike'. He has the same thing or variations of it posted in about 3 member's threads, Vrsedge's, Albalaha's and Gizmo's.
I will clarify. Refer to the Board's Rule #6 please. More specifically, just a few words within that you in particular need to focus on, understand and absorb. Here, I will make it a tad bit easier for you:
"No sales or published links of any kind to any commercial cause/website/program or item, without the express permission of the Board Moderators or the Administrators.
No direct selling or linking to a member's or member's affiliate of any kind without the express permission of the Board Moderators or the Administrators. "
As well: I posted yesterday the following;
Known members versus unknown members things are taking into a Different Light.
As far as selling something, a known member that's a real person, that has history here if that's what he does for a living or a legitimate sideline and he is known and has as a decent reputation along with that of his product, without giving an endorsement on behalf of the board, that's one story. To me that's acceptable no matter who the member is.
Now if it's a person that signs on with no history or a few posts and all of a sudden he's selling some type of product or service and he never introduced himself and I don't know who he is and no references, entirely different picture and that is what's clearly not allowed.
And don't bring it where it's selective but it's an overall picture as to if it's a reputable member or an unknown member that's a possible scam. And again my board does not endorse any commercial product. And if I do endorse something, it means that I personally checked it out and I believe in it and I've done more research rather than just making sure the person is a reputable person and those are going to be few and far in-between, meaning the endorsements of commercial products or services on this board.
We all have seen on this board as well as numerous other boards of all kinds, the new or relatively new sign up member, comes on and greets everyone and immediately begins posting links to other sites of all types and then into direct sales. Or, a variation where he will possibly accomplish 3 or 5 or even 10 posts and then enter into the same thing. They usually do not do the latter because it takes time to do, even 30 mins of posting over a few days is way too much for these types. A perfect example was that so-called gambling book author we had last year on this board. But there are thousands of scammers, systems sellers, website gambling affiliates, etc., Those are the ones that are not allowed, will be axed and deleted as soon as they post.
As I said, known members are viewed in a different light. This is not an endorsement of their product or service, it is merely allowing them to express themselves, refer to their business or sideline, and allow them to use this board as a vehicle in a subtle way--even if it entails a commercial venture on their behalf. However, it is no different than a shopping mall with a merchant that rents space from the mall. The mall is not responsible for the content or the merchant's actions. However, if the merchant is fraudulent or present himself in a non-professional way and becomes a liability for the mall, the mall can and will terminate his lease because he did not act within standard business and community practices. Same here. End of story.
Now, that should be enough and fully explains, 'what is what'.