Yep, the other night--OMG!  Seriously people!  Did we all start playing this game a few months ago?? 

What is with the finger pointing at the score board?  What is with that, someone please explain it to me! Sitting there in your seat at a baccarat table, supposedly all adults, real money, some with thousands and thousands dollars in front of them.  Pointing at the score board!!  Worse and worse and more prevalent as time clicks on. 

So driven, so determined that they will win.  These people are appearing that they cannot take, 'I just can't win tonight' and I will call it quits and try again next week.  Those also, more and more.  Change money and change money and continually pour it on, the same thing.  It didn't work with the first $1,000.00 you bought in with, it didn't work with the 2nd, $1,000.00 you bought in with and it did not work with the other $3,000.00 you tried.  You are into it tonight for $5,000.00 thus far.  Again and again, up to $10,000.00. Win a few and repeat the same system, the one or two things you wholeheartedly belief in, mostly every time it gets to the 3rd and 4th repeat B or P you pour it on for the 'cut', or one of another 15 to 20 other key things. 

Now you grab a score card as well, do the vertical thing, abiding by the 2's and 3's.  Win 1 or 2 and lose the next 3 or so.  Win 4 and then lose 4 or 5 or 6.  The game does not change the way you are wagering.  Never could figure out why most people believe they can change that board??  Doesn't matter if it's a Monday night or a Thursday night or early Saturday AM, never changes!

A female there the other night, went through $15,000.00 easy, probably more.  Same thing.  Never changes her beliefs. I totally understand the thing about stacking up the win money but not the repeated buy-in.  Win far less than you lost and repeating without thought.  And the kicker, the wagering patterns stay almost the same, no changes.  No conversions to what is actually coming out of the shoe.  None, zero.  That is the kicker.  And the other kicker is, the easier and the more prevalent the pattern being actually presented and made--the highest majority of these new era players will not go with it. 

Maybe it's an ego thing??  I don't have the slightest.  The players I do know and the players I do talk frankly with, will all change their attack plan if they continually buy-in with additional funds, losing to start with.  And then when they recoup, they almost all cash out and leave.  But the other group of them will be so hell driven to win and win lots, no matter what they do recoup--they cannot prevail and their destiny for the night was sealed before they every wagered bet #1. 

(This entire post is addressing/answering to what Mark/Gizmo posted two spots above here, with the red and the blue added within this posting by myself).

Quote from: alrelax on Today at 04:19:22 PM

you talk stuff just go work and pay him back. Simple, why the poo poo?? (I wasn't attempting to antagonize Gizmo, just wanted his answer and finally got it)


I planned on that but now that part is wrecked for a surprise. So here is how it has been. The guy and I both know that you have to be aware of situation, motivation, and deliberate action to make the math work. We both accept this notion. So I got swept up in the TurboGenius commotion with four of my students at the school. That led to me creating a rule based computer simulation that actually worked. It's not Turbo's fault. It's mine. But I was totally convinced that it worked. It even makes sense that it should work It's based totally on the law of third stuff. In fact I'm surprised that it does not work. (That is from Gizmo, so be it.  It is what it is.  I have no reason other than to accept it at face value without my opinion as I am not part of it).


That is why I have written hundreds of unique sims investigating systems. I wanted to actually know if an idea worked or even came close to working. I was 100% sure this had to work. I took the money and made bold, blind, rule based bets expecting it to pay off. It was not a case of problem gambling. I even hocked my recording studio and fell behind on my new car payments believing this had to work. It blew up in my face and wrecked my friendship with our mystery contributor. I don't care what people think. He really put his own money up on all this. (Again, from Gizmo and he offers his reasoning's/explanation why he did what he did without technical reference or reasoning.  Again, fine as that is his explanation.  All good.)


So you wonder why I disclose my own dirty laundry in public. Truth on gambling forums is a very rare commodity. I'm an old fart. I can take it. I've lived some of the highest highs and also the lowest lows. I bragged that I had found the Holy Grail. I had to equally display the claim of my failure. It's just who I am. I learned early on that nobody cares what I did as one of the worlds first poly extreme athletes. So I did all that for myself. Nobody cares if I succeed at this. I'm just mad at myself that I went over budget and lost a gentleman's trust. This has brought me to the point to find out if what I have put together works, if it does, continue to use it, or give up. I'm at that point. If it does not work, and it is because I still have no self control, then I will know it. If it works, then I will know that I have mastered my self control issues. If it works I could have changed my life more than ten years ago when I started heavy research. If it works I will only say now that it is self control that makes it work. I won't say how I did that. It makes no sense wrecking it for others. Anyway several people here I suspect have found their own way to make gambling work. You are one of them.  (I have no problem with people finding 'holy-grails' and bragging about them.  I have a problem when they sell them and rip people off with all of their numerous 'would have's', 'could have's', or 'should have done it but you missed used it', pure b.s. stuff almost all of them are.  However, what Gizmo did or relayed was his own stuff and was pretty up-front about it to a point.  I am not privy to it all nor did I pay for anything.  We talked about numerous things, on and off the board.  We got side tracked with each of our personal life's and agendas, etc.  We both probably said things we should not have??  I don't 100% know or am I trying to justify anything here.  Mark/Gizmo did go off and choose to demean and humiliate myself with medical reasoning, right or wrong—I took offensive to the near majority of it and probably should have just ignored his medical claims regarding myself, etc.  But that is in the past, I won't bring it up again, at least I don't think I will.  As far as the self-control and knowledge issues, you have plenty and probably more good ones than bad ones.  We all have bad ones, we have to or we would not know what the good ones are or be able to work towards them and refine whatever it is we need to in any area we are working in, etc. 

As far as what other's think, people on here, especially those that do not go way back with us, do mistake numerous things I say, all good.  However, they also have a habit to come on and state that and throw in their hatred and/or jealousy without reason too many times.  They are kind of like part-time instigators.  So be it, they will never go away and they are worthless anyway.  As far as the 'truth on gambling forums is a rare commodity' is one of the biggest and boldest and never more accurate statements ever made on here!  110%! 

What so many have no clue and no idea in gambling is, the situation, the action and the ability and how it all merges together.  But one also needs, motivation, clear mind, vision, non-greed, non-have to, intense alertness without being one bit pompous, etc., to actually make those sessions pay off.  Besides having a vast amount of knowledge about the downfalls and the psych interactions I have written about in such detail on the board.  The game cannot be beat, there is no way to physically do it on a consistent basis using mathematical and statistical protocols, it is with everything else a player can make it work.  However, if you found something else and you forgo everything I ever written about and discovered set mathematical protocols, god bless you—I am not saying it can never be done, I just don't see it or believe it can be in such nature.

As far as making gambling 'work'.  Yes, I have in many ways.  Perfectly, no.  Better than the past, most certainly!  I never claimed to be the guru or have the 'holy-grail' with commercial marketability such as that guy did whom came on here recently with all those books and systems, etc.  I would not trade what I know or what I have been through for anything, nothing.  I am pretty convinced I know 95% or better of all that exists in baccarat play, agendas, systems, teams, trends, patterns, play, people, etc., etc.  That is my knowledge and that is my tool chest.  I have never tried to make a living at gambling, nor depend on it for my sole support and livelihood.  I did pour hundreds and hundreds of hours during the past year into a commercial school I was set to open in Nevada and the State Officials put a kink in it that I could not go for with licensing and permitting, they put it on the same level as post-secondary education with certified teachers, courses and everything else a regular private school would have to post, put up and endure.  I shelved it for the time being.  The state had two independent counsels rule my course synopsis too valuable to dealers and casino personnel, etc.) 

I have been involved in gambling/casinos and businesses related to casinos in one form or another, legal as well as forms of illegal businesses, from many aspects, in many locations during the past decades.  I have not just attacked the tables from the players perspectives, FYI--everyone.  I also have numerous people in my family that are career individuals with some of the largest casino properties in the USA.  My perspectives, my knowledge, my experiences and other things come from all sides.  And like Mark/Gizmo--I have done it all for myself, at least up to this point anyways.


I just felt that I needed to put everything out there as I was running a school and claiming that this way was probably the best.  (That is why it is called a public message board, no?)

It is now 3.30 am.  I worked about 40 hours out of the past 48 hours. I just got home and cleaned up and jumped in bed. I have to wake up by 6 am to be in the office to unlock and open for my crew of guys in at 7 am.  I would have slept on my comfy couch in my office the exact same as last night.  But I have no shower there and I need one before I start another day.    I also want to grab all my little kids presents for Christmas and wrap them beforehand weekend, as I always show them by Halloween how Santa drops by between his runs and leaves stuff off for my 3 wonderful never ever do anything wrong perfect kids!  LOL.

So, Mark, yes. I kind of skimmed around your apology above where you are apologizing for openly berating and humiliating me on the board, i do forgive you 100 percent, its been bothering me.  There, you happy?  I would not have said it if I didn't mean it, sincerely, Glen.

So cute, don't answer but you know its the rice and the cookie, you talk stuff just go work and pay him back. Simple, why the poo poo??  Gambling full time on someone else's dollar without producing really sucks, I can only imagine.  Let me get this straight, can I borrow money, run to the casino and stand there picking numbers to hit on a wheel spinning around and round, hoping for a pay day???  I can only imagine that wonderful gut wrenching irking feeling when those numbers don't hit,  walking out to my car for that ride home,  what an exciting wonderful way to exist.   Then come on a public message board and put it out there for the same guy to see!  I am totally missing something!  Kind of like a drug dealer selling heroin to a teenager and the kid overdoses, the dealer grabs a McDonald's meal and is waiting in front off the families house as the clean sister comes outside, the dealer offers her a free sample and laughs at the parents in tears standing right there,  no difference.  Seriously,  no different.

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Quote from: Gizmotron on October 24, 2017, 11:23:37 PM

I took another person's money to the casino and lost it.

Who's money was that?  Now that you bring it up.

QuoteHi Alrelax, I don't expect you to not be mad.


I just discovered that I have been seeing Narcissists everywhere for the past year. It turns out that almost all of us have one to two characteristics of Narcissism listed out of 12 items in the DSM-5. The DSM-5 says that to be an NPD the person must have 5 or more characteristics to be listed as having NPD. I have at least 2 characteristics myself. I was totally wrong to suggest that you are NPD.


Now you can see that I don't really care where you get your donuts. I hope you don't really care either or will soon not care.


Have a better and nice life,


I apologize sincerely,

Mark

Mark,

You are what you are, the same as myself. 

The only mistake I kind of made on this board was the 'Saturday Night Live' type of skits converted into the written words/posts I had made regarding systems and such.

The rest of just about everything I ever posted, deleted and re-posted, posted, has been my experiences, downright real, justified if needed and absolutely the truth or what I believed to the last word.  Not, words of hate and spite and words that attempted to demolish or put someone's light's out, so to say. 

Problem is, so many are exclusively inhibited and as well--introverted on here.  They picture just about everyone else the same or just below themselves with little to no imagination, experience or optimism.  All of course, IMO.

I thought for a while--we were about on the same level, play--experience wise that is.  But, you did (again IMO) go a tad bit too far with the medical, personal and professional valuations regarding myself.  Why?  I can't really say.  Maybe I was just there. 

I seriously have been through some pretty tumultuous times and experiences in my life from being affiliated through marriage with NYC Asian Triads to all out criminal activity regarding adult businesses and financially related activity and businesses, to non gambling and non criminal professions that were just nasty-dirty and extremely difficult years with the history of them, etc. 

I generally (unless pun is intended or some other form of humor) tell the truth with explicit and redundant tenacity on here.  Yes, I have been on other boards and self banned myself or been banned for generally not caring one bit about what they stand for and got in some two bit 'back alley' fight with some internet troll.  Like I did on the other forum I last told the Admin to ban myself.  I just got that NYC 'don't give a F*** attitude when I take a stand for something', etc., etc. 

As far as accepting or not accepting an apology of the type you made, I honestly see no reason to have even brought up what you did.  You have nothing to prove here the same as myself, although I have tried at times, why---I could not answer except to say, I write the honest and unforgiving truth. 

There is a way to gamble and there certainly a way not to gamble.  The same as writing on the board here or anywhere else.

Just because someone gambles differently than myself does not make him or her inferior or superior to myself or anyone else for that matter.  Likewise, the way others write and what they write about or have belief in, the exact same would have to hold true as well.  If we were all the same, this world would really suck a heck of a lot more than it already does. 

Thanks, Alrelax. 

What a bunch of unbelievable shenanigans!  Seriously sad!  I think last night tops the retards of the retards with a new level of imbecilic-ism!

I did okay, far from what I should have done and the opposite end of the rainbow from what any normal table of baccarat players would've done  a few years ago.  I don't know if it is all the info and all the random these people acquire off the internet or what, but the way they wager and the amount of funds they lose---is south of sad! 

2 Shoes of the 3, I stayed for were perfect set-ups and perfect follows for the player for huge sections.  There was one section where it was 2's (pairs) for like 6 cuts and then a 6 repeater for the Banker and then a 9 repeater for the Player.  Then right back to 2's (pairs) for another 6 or 7 sections.  Also almost every single natural 'cut' as well.  Other signs and warnings, I cannot believe it.  At least 15 players lost in excess of $5,000.00 each and several $10,000.00. 

And what floors me, they lose their money, and they buy-in heavier and heavier and heavier and never stop.  Hell bent on the 'cut' no matter what or the repeater when it is determined to 'cut'. 

But what gets me the most, there has been an extremely young Asian male, early 20's at best.  He does good for a few hands and then everyone follows him--no matter what.  And, these 2's were give me's, very visible.  Especially with the repeated natural cutting to the opposites side.  What ever happened to the old, "Play it until it falls off" type of scenario?  Just lose the last one.

Nope, let's do table max a half dozen times and then we can really try to put their lights out and take all their chips from the dealer's rack.  All they wind up doing is falling and falling and falling deeper and deeper.  What is so disturbing is the results were there, all you had to do was follow them and smack the house, old school.

Heading to the casino for some play tonight!  Time to apply it all, once again. 

Not a system, kind of a guideline or let's better yet say---'A Guardrail' while playing.  I do attempt to keep the following in my forethought:

6's and 7's, where as the 7 is over the 6 will continue for at least one more win;

Naturals, 9's over 8's or 8's/9's tying.  Depending on how many the Players or Bankers are in the rears, when a Natural beats a Natural already drawn, that is a hint the side will play catch up, somewhat;

Fortune 7's tending to cut--highest majority of the times;

Tie after several repeats, tend to cut.  (repeats meaning a couple of naturals or the winning side winning with the same numbers, etc.);
Stronger more times in middle within the 1/3rd to 2/3rds section, say the 20th to the 60th hands;

When the repeating streaks start to beat the other sides 7's and 3 card 8's, etc.  Especially with 3rd card draws or by the losing side being reduced by their 3rd card draw.  The opposite side is in for a fresh run or a continue run. 

You were gone all week??  Really?

Your site is as old as my son, seems just like yesterday he was born, happy birthday!

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 16, 2017, 05:48:37 PM

Stop at any point with an overall net profit,

Stop when you win once in racing.
Stop when you got your first piece of sex.
Stop when you had a great piece of steak.
Stop when you got your first great paycheck.
Stop and resign from the sports team when you got that first 'hero' of the game recognition, etc.

Stop.  Yes sir, win a little bit and stop.

1 of them cannot and will not 'always' win.  There are many ways the wager(s) can and will lose.