Over the years I have been a registered member of more than 10 roulette forums.

Why is it that Victor's forums are the ONLY ones that ever asked for money from members?

Not one other forum owner or admin that I know of has ever required money from members.

In the past I have donated, and quite a bit too, even set up monthly auto payment through paypal for a while, but NEVER again.

I've never been afforded any real gratitude for my charity, and have usually been treated as less than one of the free loaders. So now you lot can pay up, as I for one am done.

For the record...

Bayes is boring. Slacker is much better!

And while we're at it, Rolex-Watch should be Mickey-Mouse-Watch. [smiley]aes/joking.png[/smiley]

Well RW,  I must say it seems like you would be a very unpleasant fellow to be around when things don't go your way. With all that barking and cursing and foot stomping I'm not surprised casino staff serve you up a hard time. Besides, casinos are completely justified in the application of whatever countermeasures they see fit, and any experienced gambler should be aware of that and accept it as part of the job.

You're probably right about me being too small a fish for them to be concerned about though. I normally front up with 5k in the pocket, play for 1 to 2 hours, get anywhere from $300 to $1000 profit then leave or stop and socialise with friends. That's good enough for me for now.

...Oh and yeah, when I play, I'm as quiet as a mouse and drift through like a shadow. They probably don't even know I'm there.

Hi wannawin,

Sorry I didn't relate that very well.

By play for neither I meant I have no preference for either. My bet selection will sometimes be on the deviation and sometimes on the balance, although that's not why I'm betting them.

Like I said, the wheel will do as it will so there's no use asking it to cooperate.

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on September 19, 2014, 03:45:06 AM
Do you people actually step foot into a B&M casino frequently?  Do you have any idea what it is like to see your buyin dwindle to less than 50%.  Know how that feels?

How does it feel to get battered at a table game, when all your expectations fly out the window and you wonder "what did I do to deserve this", "what signal did I miss not to venture to the casino tonight".  It can be sickening, especially if you have been winning good and your confidence is sky high, only to be beaten up by the other side pulling naturals, your mind starts wondering, what has the casino done?  Did they review tapes, orchestrate the deck?  Is this the session were I give back my hard fought for gains in one session, which normally happens (and cursing is not allowed, are we all gentlemen and expected to take our beating with a degree of decorum?).

Thankfully I turned things around and walked 10u shy of 100% of my buyin, and your concerned by a humorous cartoon that may or may not carry some hidden message.    Excuse me, just winding down after a somewhat difficult session.

Hey RW, I hope you don't mind me starting a new thread with your quoted post, but esoito did ask not to hijack the other thread.

RW, I don't agree with you at all that casino games are a battle arena. My interpretation is that these games are encounters, nothing more. More like sitting on a park bench in the morning sun watching all the girls walk by. Going to the table with war paint on is not advisable; the aggressive state of mind needed to enter into battle has no place in pro gaming. We need to maintain a calm and relaxed persona. Battle leads to fear and fear leads to errors, and errors above all else are costly, and irretrievable.

The first thing people should do to improve their gaming experience is to drop all expectations. Expectation leads to disappointment, which leads to anger, which throws you into battle mode, and we don't want that.

If the encounter is amiable then it should be easy to maintain decorum, if the encounter is disagreeable, then it will be more difficult to maintain decorum, but that is what we must do. So decorum is part of the pro gamer's strategy to rise above judgemental attitudes. In short, don't judge the wheel, or the deck, or the dealers. Let it all walk on by.

I do actually play roulette at my local casino, and have been on the receiving end of disagreeable encounters as much as anyone, so I feel your pain, but my way of addressing these difficult times enables me to drift along with the game cool calm and collected no matter what.

Just the other night my encounter was long and drawn out. It went quickly at first with my bankroll diving into a hole about $4000 deep. I could have left after that first few hours and returned another day to recover, but being a stubborn old goat, I dug my heels in and decided to play on and see where it goes.


I maintained my calm, and six and a half hours later I walked out of there with a profit of $10, yes $10, but my smile upon exiting probably looked like I'd won a million! Very satisfying indeed.

Anyway, I would be interested to hear what other's think about casino games being a battleground?

What is your philosophical interpretation?

I play for neither.

I make a pick and place my bet and the wheel does the rest, spin by spin. It can balance, it can deviate. I have no control over what the wheel does so my best action is to allow the wheel complete freedom to do as it will.

My only task is to cleverly maintain my bankroll and keep edging it forward.


On a side note, in my opinion allowing the wheel complete freedom of expectation is the first step forward in developing your intuitive awareness, if that is your thing. 

Quote from: wannawin on September 18, 2014, 01:47:53 PM

Maybe it is because of the post context? No one is calling anyone and abusing a forum member. It is just an Internet comic

It's passive aggresive, and its being allowed.

Above the comic it is titled, There were questions raised on freedom of speech etc, all I can say is.


The freedom of speech comments were by a new member, Maxwell in reply to rightly or wrongly having posts edited while going at it with XXVV.

So the comic is a direct passive aggressive taunt and insult aimed squarely at the new member, Maxwell, and any who are of like mind.

If you can't see the connection, then you've got blinkers on. The comic is insulting to those who know who they are, if you know what I mean.

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on September 18, 2014, 02:03:34 PM
You need to get a grip greenguy,

Hey, I have a grip alright.

I don't really mind colourful language and feisty arguments, I was just playing advocate to make a point about double standard moderation.

I have witnessed members warned, silenced, muted and timed out for less colourful language posted in humorous thread context. I suppose those members are the one's Adulay claims are not given special treatment.

And let's call a spade a spade, it's only one mod that seems to do it and that is the mod Esoito.

I'm not trying to cause trouble, just making an observation. ANY little indiscretion with the slightest hint of distaste usually brings swift action from the mod Esoito, but not this time.


Anyway, back to roulette n stuff.

Forum moderation is not for the faint hearted, and you can never please everyone, but evidence of double standard moderation will never please anyone.

To this effect, I find leapyfrog's post offensive, and a glaring example of double standard moderation.

Because the overall content of the post is supportive of the moderation on the forum, the foul language "nonsense" and the name calling "you're an unintelligent" hidden within the comic strip format of the message is allowed to stay up.

If I or anyone else had posted, "the moderators here are assholes and full of nonsense", the post would not last 5 minutes, and I would be muted at least, and possibly banned. But leapyfrog gets more of a pat on the back, and a here, here, bravo, well said and all that!

This is the type of double standard moderation customary here that upsets many of the forum members, which then affects the future relationships therein.

Quote from: Sputnik on September 03, 2014, 08:52:41 AM
Take a regular gambler.
Friday, Saturday you should aim to win more as tables are crowded and there is full action every where, set a good limit that don't give you heat or attention.
Monday and Thursday you should aim to grind with lower limit.

Any opinions about that?

This implies you are playing with a guaranteed positive edge. Without that guarantee you have limited control over when is a good time to bet big or bet small, because you don't really know when the wheel will co-operate or not.

So you can't really decide to go for the big bucks while the casino is busy because the wheel might deny you, and bring about your undoing. Then when you go back on a quite night to grind it out with small chips the wheel might submit to your efforts and offer up a pittance in comparison.

Quote from: Slacker on September 03, 2014, 09:03:29 AM
I think she's trying to say that the Grail is the player.

Yes, that's the self glorifying bit.

I read it through again and I think she's saying it's possible for Grails to exist but they defy description.

I can live with that.

What a self-glorifying article, in all its brevity.

So in the first instance Grails don't exist, but then within a few short lines they miraculously do exist, but only internally!

I'm confused by this article, is she saying they exist or not? [smiley]aes/dont_know.png[/smiley] 

If only it was that simple.

From this argument we can presume that Tuner's cup is half empty, and Rolex Watch's cup is half full.

Ah, the joys of the gambler's philosophy.

Quote from: Albalaha on August 21, 2014, 03:07:01 AM
It is the past so many reds that puts a virtual limit to a sequence going infinite>>

No it isn't. It is the future and recurrent 48.6% chance of black appearing next that puts a virtual limit to a red sequence going infinite.

The fact is 48.6% is a significant force to be reckoned with.

So significant in fact, it's what makes this game beatable.