Quote from: Nathan Detroit5 on November 08, 2016, 07:32:13 PM
PM   Nathan Detroit 5 if you have any question about the proper bankroll, loss limit, and win goal but not win limit.


ND 5

Why always with the PMs?

Why not just write about the proper bankroll, etc, here openly on the forum?

What's your caper ND5?

Oh, and just how many usernames have you got? Isn't it against forum rules to have multiple accounts?

Well wouldn't that be nice.

Thanks for the explanation Vic.

I appreciate it, and I'm sure others do too.

This sounds interesting, but it's hard to follow your meaning.

Could you give a brief or simplistic practical example?

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on October 14, 2016, 03:06:43 AM
Thanks Gizmotron, for your answer.

then, if we start the bet,
stake 2/1, aiming for say, 10streak or more,

when we hit 3win in row,
then change staking to 1/1,
and milk till the streaks end???
thanks in advance.

For me, that would entirely depend on your comfort zones, and any personal win stop settings.

Happy Birthday to me!

I turned 56 years old today.

So  to 4 year olds.   

Everything in roulette is fleeting. Hence, temporarily constant characteristics are credible.

The good news is these characteristics, in fact all the possible characteristics of roulette can and do form of their own volition regardless of the input channels.

Where I play, Star City Casino in Sydney, there must be close to 50 roulette wheels. I've never counted them, but upstairs/downstairs, there must be close to 50.

If I walk a circle around the whole gaming floor of all levels and write down the last number to show from each of the 50 or so wheels, then repeat the circle all night long, the number stream I will have recorded is guaranteed to exhibit all the characteristics of roulette as if taken from a single wheel.

There will be runs and chops and sleeping dozens and hot numbers and repeaters and terrible twos and grouping finales and numerological anomalies, and every other type of characteristic you care to mention.

If you think you need to tough it out and grind through a session on 1 wheel, then you have a lot to learn about the nature of this game.


Take the well-schooled MrJ for example. He occasionally posts about dealers giving him a hard time with counter measures, etc, so he has to play methods that can be rapidly calculated with only a few numbers to bet. Well that suggests being stuck on 1 wheel in hope that whatever he's chasing will eventually show up.

I can absolutely state that MrJ could move off the troublesome table and not diminish the chances of whatever he's chasing showing up in same fashion.

Quote from: Gizmotron on October 11, 2016, 02:55:00 PM

The search for a temporarily constant characteristic is the bigger picture here.

That's why I build my bet to include all 37 numbers. I can never lose my whole bet, more often than not lose very little, and when the more heavily weighted numbers show, I take the profit.

Quote from: Mike on October 11, 2016, 08:28:15 AM
I've no idea what this means. All numbers have the same "leverage" and there's nothing special about the zero.

Of course you are right Mike. There's nothing special about the zero. Not when betting 1 number anyway.

I do write some confusing stuff sometimes, don't I?  Hey, sorry about that.

I kind of turned this thread upside down because while most people seem to be focusing on 1 number or 1 position, or a few of same, I am more focused on betting every number on the layout with various arrangements. Eventually, the complications of the bet result in the zero being included most effectively each time by an individual bet. So that's the leverage.

In essence, I disagree that betting 1 number may be the ultimate bet selection.

What I'm trying to say is the only number on the wheel with any leverage is zero. So if you want to play only 1 number or position, then the number or position you should play is zero.

If you're not content with that and you shouldn't be , and so decide to complicate your bet with more numbers and more positions, then the first number or position you should play is zero.

Still does make it 2 placed bets though, sorry

Quote from: Ehtelgaeb on October 10, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Tomla, I am always curious about successful sports bettors.  How do you select the team to bet on?  Is it a mathematical process or do you follow sports closely enough to be able to intuitively pick?

I think you will find your answer in the quote below,

Quote from: Tomla on October 09, 2016, 10:49:17 PM... its really really really hard to lose 7 in a row in sports.......try to do it on purpose

...you're welcome.

I'll stick my neck out and say that betting 1 number is relatively, or essentially the same as betting any 1 position on the layout. So best to consider them all..

You have these options. 1 number, 1 split, 1 street, 1 corner, 1 six-line, 1 dozen/column, and 1 EC. If you're playing the race track then obviously you have other complications and available options for placing 1 bet.

Traditionally though, the zero can be used for 1 number, 1 spilt, 1 street, and 1 corner only. It cannot be used for 1 six-line, 1 dozen/column, or 1 EC. This leaves open the possibility of including a hedge bet on the zero from six-line and beyond. Surely that's something to consider..

Most people "poo poo" the zero insurance bet, but I'm not convinced it's always a bad thing.

Does make it 2 placed bets though, sorry.

Thanks for the very interesting repeater observations, Gizmotron.

I hope those people chasing repeaters can find some meat on the bone here.

If it's all about beating online roulette from the comfort of your own home, I would forget that too.

Online casinos are a disaster area. They will pull every trick in the book to ensure you either lose, or can't withdraw your winnings, or disconnect you , or ban you for the slightest reason if they see you winning.

You can't beat them because they don't play fair. They move the goal posts around constantly so you can never kick a goal.

I agree with The Crow, keeping it to yourself is best.

If your problem is it's too far for you to travel and play, then try to solve that dilemma before deciding what to do with the AIMP.

How much can you win? What other commitments do you have in life? How much time can you afford playing roulette for money? What would it cost to rent accommodation for 3 or 6 month periods close to a few casinos?

Could you build a rewards portfolio with casinos then take advantage of comp'ed  rooms, etc.

If you want to share it for the kudos, forget it. No one is important enough for you to require their acknowledgement.


I'm lucky because I have settled on a system that consistently destroys roulette, and my local casino (Star City Sydney) is a 5 minute drive.

I'm even luckier that I don't need the money so don't have to chase the dollar with endless roulette.


I'm sure my way of play is every bit as good as yours, but you don't see me trying to flog it or share it or seek peer reviews.

I just drive down the road and play it every now and then.

Good luck whatever you decide.