Quote from: RolexWatch on August 17, 2016, 07:09:50 PM
IMO MM is paramount and a bet selection need to make sense (have some logic attached to it), be that pattern capturing, being able to identify it's losing jag and reducing to the nth degree the chance of that happening, whatever.

Last 4 sessions, playing a mathematical fully mechanical mode of play.


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51/38   57%   
                                                                        
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42   /40   51%   
            
   
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36/43   46%   
                                                                        
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51/37   58%   


   

With the MM factored in, what was the net win/loss for each of  these 4 sessions?

The results themselves mean very little other than the 4 sessions were fairly stable for your BS.

My own MM would have smashed the 46% result, done almost as well with the 57/58% results, but struggled with the 51% result.

So it's always a blend of BS & MM

How does one get invited?

What is the cost before your discretionary discounts?

How can you guarantee the open forum lessons will stay on track without off topic banter?

How long do you estimate it will take for your students to graduate?

Could your teachings be migrated to your students' preferred bet selection methods?

6) Belch loudly and pinch the drink's girl on the bottom as she goes past.

Quote from: Albalaha on June 04, 2016, 08:18:43 AM
Sucker Green guy,
      Since I kicked you out in many debates, you and your buffoon team is jumping up and down now and resorting to a purely bastardised way of mockery than any debate. Those guys who only say yes, no thanks and jokes are trying to be clevera## saviours here.

These lurkers and non-contributors have no other way to voice their opinions and none cares for what they write.

The baldy sucker Tomla who is attacking me here and there has licked my balls for two years and used to call me Guru now showing his true colors after swearing on the grave of his kids.

May God help them get out of their frustration.

It is not possible to debate with you.

Every time I try to debate with you like adults, you act like a school yard bully and start insulting me and others.

And you delete any posts that challenge your thinking.

You really are a crappy person, who IMO is not worth the oxygen you steal, but I suppose God must have some reason for your existence.

You know how I know its not true? (his winning system)

Because the nefarious Albalaha is always antagonistic toward forum members.

He should be chill, but he's not, so it's not true. 

Quote from: Albalaha on June 04, 2016, 01:44:30 AM
Oh really!!!!
             From where you got this revelation green sucker? This trolling buffoon along with its baldy friend who licked my feet for two years are acting oversmart here.

            With this methodology stop losses are very rare and recoveries are very easy. That is what makes it positive gambling.
Positive Gambling= A positive approach of playing that gives a positive chance to be ahead in long run unlike any other system ever created.

con artist

noun informal

a person who cheats or tricks others by persuading them to believe something that is not true

Quote from: Albalaha on May 29, 2016, 11:20:00 AM

Max DD: I would ask to quit for the day if losses reach -300 units a day.

Going by your maths, if a -300 unit DD happens, that puts buyers in a 10,000 spin recovery period... a 10,000 SPIN RECOVERY PERIOD!

God help them if they get a second -300 unit drawdown while they're at it.

Quote from: Albalaha on May 29, 2016, 09:50:40 AM
Say we bet only 150 spins in 1000, we need to see the real ratio there. We can earn 1 to 3 units per 10 bets placed.

That equates to about 30 units won per 1000 spins.

IMO that's not too bad, and pretty good if you can guarantee it.

But can you guarantee it?

Or should we expect to factor in losing sequences of 1000 spins, which then reduces the 30 unit average?

Not so naive.

I have an advanced knowledge of progressions and their frailties.

You just don't see the big picture, and I'm not going to waste my time explaining any further.

Quote from: Albalaha on April 14, 2016, 05:07:45 PM

This is as much a failure as a 9 step martingale on an EC or rather even easier. A dozen can sleep even upto 45 spins and you can not create any push to win progression that can beat such spans. Even one such loss become irreparable and hence totally impractical.

45 losses in a row can cost my progression as little as 127 units. Not too much to recoup.

All progressions have a sweet spot that should not be overstepped.IMO

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on April 14, 2016, 09:51:29 AM
Since none of my ideas work,
and also,
since none of anyone ideas here worked,
and also none posted any workable progressions.. .
or any workable method,
or any workable system,
or any workable strategy, here..

Since no ideas or strategy works...

I think I might , as well , forget about
gambling...

What a good idea.

Bye bye to you then. 

My single dozens progression can go to 15 steps and will hardly ever bust.

The problem is that when it does bust the loss is very expensive, and a few busts in short succession can be devastating.

So what do I do? I never go past the first 9 steps. The bust out rate is higher, but the expense is more manageable.

The 9 steps I use are  1.1.2.3.4.7.10.15.28

But that's not good enough. If you look over the progression you will see 2 points at which the profit is only 1 unit. These are on step 2 and step 5. What I do is play for 3 rounds totalling about 300 spins where I do not wager on steps 2 and 5. If and when either of those bets win, I absorb the loss and start my next round of bets at step 1. If and when either or both of those bets lose, I continue along the progression adding in steps 2 and 5 as I go. This way I can play the whole 9 steps, but only ever risk wagers up to step 7, which is a bet of 10 units. The total loss for 9 steps is now only 28 units plus whatever I've absorbed along the way. It generally works out significantly cheaper than pushing through the whole 9 steps every time.

After playing like this for 300 spins or so, I will play 2 rounds over the next 150 spins or so by not wagering on step 2 only. Again absorbing any loss from a step 2 win, and adding in the step after any step 2 loss. This way I can play the whole 9 steps, but only ever risk wagers up to step 8, which is a bet of 15 units. The total loss for 9 steps is now only 43 units plus whatever I've absorbed along the way. Again, it generally works out cheaper than pushing through the whole 9 steps every time.

The final single round of play is about 50 spins at most. Here I push on through the whole 9 steps, risking the whole progression bust of 66 units. But I only play this round if I am in profit for the first 5 rounds. If I'm losing money at this stage I do not play the last round risking the whole progression bust of 66 units.

That is my long term progression winner in brief form. Obviously there are other components within the money management, such as using win goals and stop losses along the way to signal when to move on to next rounds and next spin sets.

Attuned to my fabulous single dozen bet selection, I can confidently beat just about any 10000 spin set you'd care to throw at it.


Anyway, I've shared it here so hopefully it will help people interested in finding ideas for progressions.

Quote from: Albalaha on April 12, 2016, 03:40:25 AM
...a long run progression that incorporates all the harsh moments and ability to win in long run...

By " incorporates all the harsh moments and ability to win in long run" do you mean a progression that never loses and never busts? One that eventually and always moves into profit no matter what?

Or do you mean a progression that busts from time to time but shows an overall profit for the long run?

Quote from: soxfan on March 18, 2016, 06:42:31 PM
...balss and bankroll baby...

No argument here. 

So 3700 spins is the long run?

What happens when you have done 100 of these long runs and you now have 370000 spins?

Doesn't that make your 3700 spins look like a short run, or hit and run?

I'm confused..