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#166
Straight-up / Re: Lucky Nine *FINAL*
May 27, 2013, 09:53:52 AM
I changed the progression for this one (Thanks to soggett!)


A cycling progression:

After 3 spins -1/+1 progression:
The Negative cyclic progression would look like this:

1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10 11 11 11 12 12 12 13 13 13 14 14 14 15 15 15 16 16 16 17 17 17 18 18 18 19 19 19 20 20 20 That is a 60-step progression.
(Before reaching table-limit)

IF win within a this 3 cycle progression -1 unit bet.
This cycling progression would look like this

1 1 1 L
2 2 2 L
3 3 3 W
2 2 2 L
3 3 3 L
4 4 4 W
3 3 3 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 1 .......and so on
#167
Off-topic / Re: Music thread
May 27, 2013, 09:42:29 AM
#168
Straight-up / Re: Lucky Nine *FINAL*
May 26, 2013, 11:53:14 PM
Live-session @DublinBet

+74u playing with 0.5u chips


All games won within 5 spins

AACCCABBCCCBADCCCDCDABADDDCDBBBBBABA

LLWLWWLLLWWLLLLWLLW : Hitrate 7/19 =37%

Expected hitrate for 9 numbers 9/37=24%

1.LLW
2.LW
3.W
4.LLLW
5.W
6.LLLLW
7.LLW
#170
Off-topic / Re: Music thread
May 26, 2013, 10:20:22 PM
That's great music Kattila! Love it!!  :cheer:
#171
Straight-up / Lucky Nine *FINAL*
May 26, 2013, 06:16:55 PM

RED GROUPS
A: 5 7 12 14 19 21 25 27 36


B: 1 3 9 16 18 23 30 32 34


BLACK GROUPS
C: 2 4 11 15 20 22 28 33 35


D: 6 8 10 13 17 24 26 29 31


TRIGGER: Wait unti one group do now show
for minimum 6 spins.


Then start betting it
with Progression 9 numbers =


1.1.1.2.2.3.4.5.7.9.12.16.22.30.40.55


until hit.


Live-session @castle casino:


CDDADBACBBDDBABDADBCDCDAAABABCBDBABABBA


W
LLLW
W
LW
LW
LW
LLLW

#173
Straight-up / Lucky Nine III
May 26, 2013, 01:29:03 PM

Another tweak of this system, with a different trigger/progression+stoploss.


RED GROUPS
A: 5 7 12 14 19 21 25 27 36


B: 1 3 9 16 18 23 30 32 34


BLACK GROUPS
A: 2 4 11 15 20 22 28 33 35


B: 6 8 10 13 17 24 26 29 31


Trigger: Wait until 3 groups have been hit, then bet for the 4:th group.


Progression. 1-1-1-2-2 STOP


Only 5 bets, since most hits seems to come
within 5 spins.


If loss: Accept the loss (Progression Reset).
Bet for a new group




Test-game (RNG)
LLW
LW
LLLLw
LLW
LLW
LW
LLLLW
LLLW
LW
LW
W
W
W
LLLW
W
LLLLLLLLLLLLW
#174
Split / Re: Live Split Repeater
May 25, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
OK, here is 50 Live-spins:



34
8
33
16
0
9
15
36
8
6
24
5
28
33
7
3
4
26
34
2
36
4
0
24
10
8
13
14
6
13
6
20
26
9
16
3
6
26
20
12
15
5
2
3
14
2
18
18
2
11
#175
Split / Re: Live Split Repeater
May 25, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: Turner on May 25, 2013, 04:58:48 PM
Ignatus...nice idea. As GG said, it comes and goes though.


Progressions are not a sticking plaster to get over the lulls.


Virtual spins, other ideas in the lull, reduced betting in the lull are better.


They are attempts to get the bet selection right without throwing money at the problem.


Thanks turner for your comments, Now perhaps it's better playing this with single numbers? Still when a split formation is formed i've noticed it will hit again pretty soon. Or perhaps that is just my imagination? I DID some short tests only, but more testing is needed, I know from experience: -Once you get a lucky start, then the luck turns....


Don't know how many times that have happened. hahaa  :P

Virtual spins is a very good idea, but im not sure how that could be applied to this strategy...
?
#176
Split / Re: Live Split Repeater
May 25, 2013, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: jarabo002 on May 25, 2013, 04:33:51 PM
Thanks Ignatus. it's a very good method.

Did you find another better progression?

For example, try to add 1 coin when you hit until 36 spins.


Yes, the progression is the issue with this strategy, I haven't figured that out yet.


Problem is also, when many splits are placed, progression becomes difficult. +1 progression won't work in that case.


#177
Corner/Quad / Re: FLAT BETTING WITHOUT NOTES
May 25, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: warrior on May 25, 2013, 03:48:07 PM
no they're not


Really? "Start on 1-5. After a loss: Add the next higher corner. In this case: 2-6. After one more loss: Add 4-8 to your betting..."
#178
Corner/Quad / Re: FLAT BETTING WITHOUT NOTES
May 25, 2013, 03:46:45 PM
Quote from: Buffalowizard on May 25, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
Read his post back Ignatus

He is playing corners, not groups of 9


Read the post back yourself. The corner bets are *placed* in a group of 9.
#179
Corner/Quad / Re: FLAT BETTING WITHOUT NOTES
May 25, 2013, 01:22:59 PM
You must have been real lucky when playing this. I tried it, and lost 2 games, (many times this group of 9 numbers can sleep 10+ times) First game I lost, second game I tried playing with +1 progression after 4 corners placed, (hoping for one WW or one WLW before reset) But that didn't work either, I was up 30u bet and during this time got 2-3 hits.....


Now this IS a good idea/strategy, but if you're going to play it this way, betselection is very important. I've tried playing the most sleeping group of 9 numbers; (That didn't work!)


These groups  are 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36.


My best advice is playing for the most active group of nine for the last 4-6 spins. This is Kattila's advice. (The best advice i ever got I think!)


Cheers



#180
Double-street / My Way Or The Highway.
May 25, 2013, 12:10:05 PM

This strategy have been tested and played for some time with only good results, to be honest, I never lost playing this one.

This is playing with 3 doublestreets with +1 Negative progression, for each spin. (there are some other progressions suggested)

Turner's progression

Try betting in cycles of 3.
2 2 2 4 4 4 6 6 6 8 8 8
Back to 2 2 2 on a new high or 4 4 4 if nearly a new high.


Agesta's progression

A different way of this is to play it in circle of 6, raise + 1 when you are down after 6 triels and then start over
with 1 unit when new high reached.
LW +3
LLLLLL
LLLLLW played with 2 units
LWWLLW played with 3 units
LWWWLW played with 4 units
WW played with 5 units
+ 18 units
new high
Start over with 1 unit
Agesta


So, first divide each of the dozens into two doublestreets. Now, here is how you play; whenever it hits bet on THAT  doublestreet hit, within that dozen.
Only one bet within each dozen. That's the basic rule 1. Next, Basic rule 2. IF hit within the same dozen but on the other doublestreet, you just switch the bet to THAT doublestreet.

   When the game begin, a +1 progression is immediately used. Doesn't matter if it hits or not, always +1 bet. Thing is the only enemy you got now is your own greed. You should quit when bankroll is positive. That is reset progression and restart the game. Use your common sense! (If hits come pretty soon, two hits is enough before reset/restart...)



A short example;

Number 7 hits; Doublestreet 7/12 is bet.
Number 20 hits; (Loss) Doublestreet 7/12 & 19/24 is bet. +1 progression: 2 units on each doublestreet.
Number 31 hits; (Loss) Doublestreet 7/12 & 19/24 & 31/36 is bet...3 units on each doublestreet.
Number 27 hits (Loss) Doublestreet 31/36 is now moved, so bet is Doublestreet 25/30, & 7/12 & 19/24 is bet...4 units on each doublestreet.
Number 5 hits (Loss) Doublestreeets 1/6, & 19/24 & 25/30 is bet...5 units on each doublestreet.
Number 2 hits (WIN) same bet -Doublestreeets 1/6, & 19/24 & 25/30... 6 units on each doublestreet.
Zero hits. (Loss) Same bet Doublestreeets 1/6, & 19/24 & 25/30... 7 units on each doublestreet.
Number 32 hits (Loss)Doublestreeets 25/30 is now moved bet, so bet is Doublestreet 31/36, & 1/6, & 19/24 ... 8 units on each doublestreet.
Number 32 hits (WIN) same bet Doublestreet 31/36, & 1/6, & 19/24 ... 9 units on each doublestreet.
Number 27 hits (Loss) Doublestreeets 31/36 is now moved bet, so bet is Doublestreet 25/30 & 1/6, & 19/24 ... 10 units on each doublestreet.
Number 22 hits (WIN) Same bet Doublestreet 25/30 & 1/6, & 19/24 ... 11 units on each doublestreet.
Number 19 hits (WIN) bankroll is now +12. Time to QUIT. Reset/Restart the game.


Here are some games played;
Turner; Tried your progression and it works great!
LLLWW +7 reset/restart
LLLWLLLLLWWLWWLWW +53 reset/restart
LLLWW +65 reset/restart

LLLLLLLLLWLWWWW +73 reset/restart
LWWLW +84 reset/restart
LWLW +95 Reset/restart
LLLLLLWLWW +103 Quit.

Progression used; 1 1 1 2 2 2 4 4 4 6 6 6 8 8 8..... (I don't reset to 2 or 4 yet, only use that progression until wingoal is reached, bankroll positive... then reset/restart)

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Well, this my first Live-session at "Lucky Live Casino" (Using Turner's progression):

LLL WWW Reset +13
LLW LWL LLL LLW LWL WLW WLW LWW Reset +30
WLw LW Reset +45
LLW W Reset +51
LLW LLL LLW LLL LWW WLW W Reset +64
LWW Reset +70
LLL LLL LLL LLW WWL WW Reset +89
LLW LWW Reset +98LLW Reset. Wingoal Reached +100
============================

Second Live-session at "Lucky Live Casino";
LLLLLLWLWLWLLWWW Reset  +33
LLWW Reset  +56
WLLLWW Reset  +89
LLLLWW Quit.
Wingoal reached  +103u
+1 progression works great also

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Hi!Tested this with real Money SEK small once.
LLLw +4
Lw+ 3
LLLLLLw-7
Lw+3
LLLw+8
w+5
w+5
Lw+3
Lw+4
LLLLLLww+2
LLLw+3
LLLw+5
Lw+3
LLLw+3
w+5
LLw+1
LLLw+3
Total +52 SEK
I played it very conservativ, i proberly would have won, that session that i now lost if i had kept on playing.I wanted to test it with real but small Money, to get a real feeling for it.Very good so far, thanks  agesta
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(progression,  +1 at loss);
WLLLLWLLLLLWWLLWLWLWWLWLLWWWLWLWW +74U Reset/Restart
LWW +83U Reset/Restart
LLWW +89U Reset/Restart
LWLWLLWW +101u Wingoal Reached.