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#241
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 03, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
This is my first session playing with real money

+380SEK from this session! (I started out with 360SEK)

I recommend +1 progression playing this: +1 bet Reset only if hit within the first four spins, if hit no after four spins reset progression only after another hit within 4 spins.

Progression: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.....Stoploss after 4 losses (and wait for virtual win)

I must admit this is my first time winning & making profits from roulette!
#242
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 03, 2013, 10:46:23 AM
Playing with  0.5 chips bet


Progression 0.5, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 3, 4.5, 7, 10.5




Units needed 0.5*12 + 0.5*12 + 1*12 + 1.5*12 + 2*12 + 3*12 + 4.5*12 + 7*12 + 10.5*12 = 360
#243
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 03, 2013, 10:21:04 AM
Alright, well most hits come within the first 4 spins.


Look forward to your results!  :D
#244
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 03, 2013, 08:47:53 AM
Quote from: JohnLegend on February 02, 2013, 11:28:18 PM
Ignatus a question. What is the required bankroll and staking plan for this method. Can you give me some examples please?

I would like to test it for myself. Unlike many who are taking swipes without doing the homework.


Great  :D 


Well, I say enough to survive to the end of the progression.
                                     
That would be 1*12 + 2*12 + 3*12 + 4*12 + 6*12 + 9*12 + 14*12 + 21*12 = 720 units
#245
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 02, 2013, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on February 02, 2013, 09:10:33 PM
Principles of this bet are misleading. They must be reviewed and adjusted, otherwise there is no hope.


Why is that so? This whole strategy is based on the very frequent 123-move on livewheels. You haven't seen the pattern or even played it. So your argument is invalid OK
#246
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 02, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
15 
22  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
15
19
21
31  Stop 
22
15
36 Virtual win Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
36
19
0
23 Stop

So, progression reach 8th step is not end of the world? progression is 9 steps
12 numbers: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21

Another progression that can be useful is the +1 progression, it's very effective and last much longer than ordinary progression. +1 bet until hit. (or one hit within the first 4 spins then reset) or else two hits in sequence (4 spins) before reset.
#247
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 02, 2013, 02:01:31 PM
Quote from: soggett on February 02, 2013, 01:13:27 PM

i get this, is it correct?


Yes, that's correct. Thanks  :thumbsup:
#248
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 02, 2013, 01:06:39 PM
Quote from: SamNL on February 02, 2013, 01:04:04 PM
I will try this later today on Dublinbet and will report my results.


Great!


Play on table 1 because I had bad luck on table 2!  ;)
#249
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 02, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: soggett on February 02, 2013, 12:44:54 PM
ok, but rayhd63 posted this at the other cc forum, why does he have a nobet signal?


He's playing it another way: only betting for each trigger once I do not recommend this way of playing, because I've seen long losing streaks playing this way.


Better to use stoploss (after 4 losses) and bet for each trigger until hit.
#250
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 02, 2013, 12:29:38 PM
This is how I play: Stoploss No bet after four losses: (Wait for a virtual win after four losses). All 123 patterns are bet (123,321,231,213,312,132)

progression 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21


Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2

Dozen Two: 1,16,20,30 Split 5/8, 10/11, 23/24, 33/36

Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31


13
31  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
33  W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
27  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
29  W   Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
12
9
1    W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
13  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
15
1
16
27  Stop
26  Virtual Win  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
20  W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
19  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
28  W   Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
36  W   Trigger 2,3 - bet 1
6    W   Trigger 3,1 - bet 2
29
36  W   Trigger 1,2 -bet 3
13 
8
20
8   Stop
8
4
32
4
3   Virtual win  Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
36
17
4    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
33  W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
28  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
25  W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
20  W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
23
10
22 W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
17 W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
16 W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
5
27
25
16  Stop
33 
23 
13
29  Virtual win  Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
23
6    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
25
1    W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
17
31  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
24
5
33
2   W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
3   
13
1   W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
30
29  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
9
2    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
16  W   
#251
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 01, 2013, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: dino246 on February 01, 2013, 11:12:25 AM
Ignatus,when you say you play live,do you mean Live-Dealer ?


yes, live roulette. Played again at DublinBet won +500 in less than 100 spins.
#252
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
February 01, 2013, 11:05:48 AM
Quote from: soggett on February 01, 2013, 06:33:43 AM
it can go X + X too  :D
  ;D ;D

Ignatus please listen to other people, If you say you have seen it go to 7-8 do you not think it can then go to double that?
if you play this with your money you will lose it - friendly advice
if you don't belive us go and try it - just use small stakes so you don't lose too much


I won 4000, playing live. Never got a very bad streak so far, 7-8 spins without hit at most. TRUE. There may be extreme cases, but then one can play with stoploss at 4 losses in a row to prevet that.


Think it's bad people claiming this strategy won't work when they haven't played it.
#253
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 31, 2013, 06:38:45 PM
Quote from: Gizmotron on January 31, 2013, 05:54:07 PM
Here's a trigger for you. Count to ten, open your wallet, grab all you money, light it on fire, and scratch your head. Next, take the clue.


Stop talking s***
#254
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 31, 2013, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: Ophis on January 31, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
:)) very funny. keep on dreaming...

i think you should start playing with your own real money...  can't wait for the results.


Very funny? It's true.
#255
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 31, 2013, 04:28:40 PM
Quote from: peauke on January 31, 2013, 12:05:46 PM

This is wheeldozens im playing, not ordinary dozens. Yes i know that is the beauty if this system that its wheel based.


1
2 Trigger 1,2- Bet 3
2
3 win. (Trigger 2,3 -Bet 1)
1 win (Trigger 3,1 -Bet 2)
1 lose 1
2 win (Trigger 1,2 -Bet 3)
3 win (Trigger 2,3 -Bet 1)
2 lose 1
2 lose 2
2 lose 3, do you continue or wait for next trigger
2
3 trigger (2,3 - bet 1)
1 win (Trigger 3,1 -Bet 2)
1 lose 1
2 win (Trigger 1,2 -Bet 3)
3 win (Trigger 2,3 -Bet 1)
1 win (Trigger 3,1 -Bet 2)
1 lose 1
2 win (Trigger 1,2 -Bet 3)
3 win (Trigger 2,3 -Bet 1)
2 lose 1
3 lose 2
3 lose 3
2 lose 4
1 win (Trigger 2,1 -Bet 3)
2 lose 1
3 win





I would like to now if you are betting a 9 step progression after a trigger or only 3 bets, see example. Because if you are betting a 9 step progression after a trigger you can have hugh drawdowns, even lose complete BR.


I have had sessions when there where sleeping dozens from 14 to 23 spins, so a progression of 9 would have been a loss.


Just my observation.


for the rest keep up the good work  :thumbsup:


"I have had sessions when there where sleeping dozens from 14 to 23 spins, so a progression of 9 would have been a loss."

I have never seen such losses. After a trigger is bet longest losing streak is in reality 7-8 spins