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#271
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 26, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
Wheel dozen numbers with all possible splits

Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2

Dozen Two: 1,16,20,30 Split 5/8, 10/11, 23/24, 33/36

Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31
#272
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 26, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Sputnik on January 26, 2013, 11:24:59 AM
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All i can say and being honest, that is one very tight LW-Registry.
That is why i get back to your first post to see what its all about.

1. I can see that you use the wheel layout (the number ring) that is a good sign.

Now i have a Huxley wheel at home and will try this with some spins to see if i can get the same    results.

2. I am not so sure i understand the bet selection do.
I see 12 then bet 3 for three attempts or any other combination using the previos two.
Is that correct.


"I see 12 then bet 3 for three attempts or any other combination using the previos two. Is that correct."


Yes, and use +1 progression for each session (one session is 3 spins) Reset at two sessions won in a row.


Try betting on all patterns (same move) 132,321,213,231,312,132

I look forward to your results!

cheers
#273
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 26, 2013, 11:15:03 AM
This was one Live session playing with all the combinations of the same 123-pattern/move:132, 321, 213, 312, ,231,132



]WWLLWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWLWWWWWWWLLWWWLWLWWWWWWWL
#274
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 11:46:28 PM
Are you playing this Live or RNG?


his is a wheel-dozen pattern, not ordinary dozens.




"One dozen can sleep for 32 times in a row" Yes, (that's an extreme case). Losses happens. But patterns do not appear all the time, and when they appear they hit. Normal winrate is 75% never less than 60%
#275
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 11:24:26 PM
You can speculate it won't work. That's just wrong. Facts are different from fiction.


Take a short look at the patterns reccuring all over (see livespins I've posted) OR Play it, you'll see

#276
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 09:35:50 PM
Quote from: Gizmotron on January 25, 2013, 09:28:38 PM
Can't you see that if dozen #3 sleeps for 16 spins in a row, and that you could have as many as three or four triggers, that the third dozen won't appear. All those triggers will lose. That's what sleepers have to do with this.


OK you got a point there that could happen, yes.

Still, it doesn't happen often enough that this method would not be successful
#277
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
Quote from: Gizmotron on January 25, 2013, 09:15:13 PM
I'll wait for you to figure this out. This forum is so loaded with people that are the greatest roulette players in the entire world. I just told you where just one of the major pitfalls are. I could care less if you want me to believe all this. You "winners" have some huge lessons coming your way. When I did all this, I had $5 minimum bets. Back then the lessons where painful. Now days they let you play with penny bets.

Like they say, " no pain, no gain."


I don't know what i should learn? You learn by study the livespins (and to find a very obvious and reccuring pattern) This i did. Yes dozen sleep? So what, when it hits, it hits. Sleeping dozens do not relate to this system. It's about a very peculiar pattern that repeats itself very frequently, no matter how you play it.


The average hitrate is 75% (Try playing it, and you'll see yourself?)


But this is being tested and tweaked now.
#278
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: Gizmotron on January 25, 2013, 08:12:51 PM
When I first saw this I misunderstood it. I can't get any data from the excel files. If there was data formatted as .txt that would help.

My experience with sleeping dozens is, to say the least, extensive. This system has an obvious death sequence. Whenever dozen 1 or 3 is a long sleeper  you get a bunch of triggers without a chance of a winner.  I have a program that searches for sleeping dozens. It catches everything from 5 to 20 sleeper in a row and reports how many happened in a 300 spin session.

Here is some more truth for you to learn. Those pet dozens created for the inside act no different than the layout dozens or columns. The same number of death sequences are common to all sets of dozens. Randomness treats it all the same because all modern wheels tend to be random. This belief that there is a difference is a magical belief. So I hope this helps you as you discover more truth about this game. If you can program then you can prove it to yourself. The more proof you know, the better off you will be.


I'm sorry Gizmotron, but you haven't played this


You haven't you studied this "123-pattern" I proved from the livespins.




So, how can you be so sure about this when you have no idea what it's all about??
#279
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 08:53:45 PM

This was an idea from rolf harris: (231-move & 213-move) That is the same pattern basically. (the wheel is round) this pattern should be included in gameplay.


123-move: LWLLWWWWWWWWLWWLWLWWWWLLWW  Winrate 18/26 = 69%


321-move: WWWWWWLWWLWWWWWWLWWLWWWLLW  winrate 20/26 = 77%


231-move: WWLWWWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWL  winrate 23/26 = 88%


213-move: LWLWWWWWLWLWWWLWWWLLWWLWLW  winrate 17/26 = 65%




Average winrate: 75%
#280
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: topcat888 on January 25, 2013, 06:59:34 PM
ignatus, I don't get your trigger, movement..? what movement..?


It's when doz 1 is hit then doz 2 hits (in a sequence): This is a trigger for betting dozen 3


or when doz 3, doz 2 hits (in sequence) This is trigger for betting dozen 1
#281
General Discussion / Re: Pattern Found!
January 25, 2013, 05:31:37 PM
Quote from: peauke on January 25, 2013, 03:50:26 PM

A win or loss is one session (1 to 3 spins). So if i had to play with progression the progression was pretty high when the 5 L came. it would be -36, -72,-108,-144,-180 in total 540 units. the next bet would be 72 units  :( .


Or is my progression wrong ?



WWWLWWWWLWLLLLwWLWWWLWWWL is this session. I've doublechecked it.


(I calculate with a 1 unit bet and using progression)


+26+26=52+26=78-10=68+52=120-30=90-60=30-120=-90-160=-250+208=-42+208=166-30=136+26=162+26=188+26=214-30=184


+184 from this session, but I remove 100 because if hit didn't happen first spin etc


End result is +84 units (That's what I figure anyway)
#282
General Discussion / Re: Pattern Found!
January 25, 2013, 04:31:32 PM
Quote from: peauke on January 25, 2013, 03:50:26 PM

A win or loss is one session (1 to 3 spins). So if i had to play with progression the progression was pretty high when the 5 L came. it would be -36, -72,-108,-144,-180 in total 540 units. the next bet would be 72 units  :( .


Or is my progression wrong ?


I calculate on this
#283
Straight-up / Re: The 123-Move
January 25, 2013, 04:21:34 PM
You can study the "123 Move" from these live spins


This pattern is reccuring like this (see the chart!)


1             
                 2 
                                      3


or                           


                                      3             
                 2
1
#284
General Discussion / Re: Pattern Found!
January 25, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: peauke on January 25, 2013, 03:36:47 PM
Second session was better.  :thumbsup:


LWWWLWWWWWWWWWWLWWLWWWLW




How many session have you tested yourself ?


Nice!  :D  This is what a normal session should look like!




I've discovered the "123-pattern" (and 321) only 2 days ago!
#285
General Discussion / Re: Pattern Found!
January 25, 2013, 03:38:23 PM
Ok, well bad runs happen. WWWLWWWLWLLLLLWLWWWLWWWL is a 14/24= 58% winrate. (That's the lowest I've seen so far) If you'd play this with the +1 progression I mentioned, you would be in profit playing this session.

How did you play it? As I described 3 bets....etc? (one W/L session is 3 spins)