Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 25, 2016, 07:34:39 PM
Mogul ,

The WASHOO2 is  based  on  sections of contiguous numbers on the wheel/ . It`s  like a dealers signature approach at a  live wheel.

Study the numbers  given in section " A" and then bet the corresponding dozens where  they  are located. Any number you find in section A means betting  the First and  second dozen.

The only numbers that you  will find outside  the  dozens are 5 and 6 and 35 and 36.But they  are still a vital part in your bet selection
35  or 36  being from the A group bet  First and second dozen.  If 5 or  6 shows from the  B group bet the second  and third dozen.


Check the numbers in  group C  and bet  the First and Third dozen.

One thing that I did find odd as I reviews the bet method and selection was
that the 2 groups were opposite each other, rather than contiguous.
If wheel positional play is the goal, I would have looked at contiguous
slots on the wheel.  But that is just an observation.

Maybe doing it that way makes it easier to just pick the dozens.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 25, 2016, 07:34:39 PM
Mogul ,

The WASHOO2 is  based  on  sections of contiguous numbers on the wheel/ . It`s  like a dealers signature approach at a  live wheel.

Study the numbers  given in section " A" and then bet the corresponding dozens where  they  are located. Any number you find in section A means betting  the First and  second dozen.

The only numbers that you  will find outside  the  dozens are 5 and 6 and 35 and 36.But they  are still a vital part in your bet selection
35  or 36  being from the A group bet  First and second dozen.  If 5 or  6 shows from the  B group bet the second  and third dozen.


Check the numbers in  group C  and bet  the First and Third dozen.

I don't have a problem with it.

Just that it is still "charting", as you put it. Making bets based on previous
results.

BTW, after very weak testing (I've tested it before) I am noticing
clustering. Same as with other methods, that I keep on howling at the moon
on here.

So if you win, you keep betting the 2 dozen. If you lose, you bet the 3rd
dozen (2-1) till you lose and go back.

Quote from: mogul397 on July 25, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
I typed "WASHOO2" in search and got nothing.

My mistake.  Found it. And I remember it.

The funny thing is that you always speak against "charting", and then
you post methods that chart.  Not sure what you think the advantage is.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 25, 2016, 03:30:19 PM
The link to the WASHOO2 2 dozen method can be found right here at this forum.( That`s for the 0/00 wheel)

Anyone can follow the simple advice playing the First and Third Dozen on the single 0 wheel.



Play at your own risk. Especially the people from Rio Linda.

I typed "WASHOO2" in search and got nothing.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 21, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
  If charting makes  your day then go ahead.


Maybe this  might be more to someones liking http://betselection.cc/dozencolumn-7/bet-selections-for-columns-made-very-simple/




For  recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.

There are two sides of how to look at this.

I totally agree with ND on this matter.

On the other side, "charting" gives you some mental sense of
what you just did an how to proceed.  In discussions with Izak
(Let's talk about winning) and others sometimes someone will
suggest, "just play the method and guess at the bet selections
and see how it works".

The truth becomes that it will be the same. It's just that, somehow
under the covers, we don't trust our own judgement. That's the
bottom line. And "charting" gives us something to blame.

That certainly doesn't mean that I just guess. Even ND has his
"method" by picking the two dozens.

And while I'm thinking about this on that point, let me re tell my
story from about 20 years ago where I met an online guy named Victor.
He waited for 5-6 1st columb in a row. Then bet the other two (like ND)
for $500 each. Having a stop loss and win target. And the result was the
result.

One of the most ballsy and intuitive ways to play. Made the most sense.
Slight variation of staying out of the mix. Just make ONE $100,000 bet and
forget it.  But I can see shades of what ND does from this. It is NOT an
exact science. Just a methdolody.

Cause stuff IS going to happen. It's just a matter of how bad it will hurt you.

Having said that, I think that "charting" should be used to watch and identify
patterns and trends. I'm working on that now.  The simple clustering of events.
Like doubles. Singles. And streaks.

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on July 23, 2016, 11:03:10 PM
Any single reply posted here makes a lot of sense to me.

In particular, ND reply confirms my suspicions that the distribution of some dozens created by connecting two natural double-street is quite different depending on which 6 numbers we are connecting.
Of course the probability to win will be always the same, yet we should assign a role to how many adjacent numbers are represented among the double-street chosen.
That, imo, affects in some way the distribution.

as.

They're all "single reply".  If you're referring to ND's usual philosophical
slant that he ads to a topic, they are "single" by definition of his post.
Saying that "any single reply makes sense to you" creates confusion in my
head as to how it makes sense or why. Since I always have a hard time
wrapping my head around vague comments.

I'll throw out my 2 cents.

I am back to watching the evens for doubles or greater.  See two
in a row and either bet for the 3rd in a row, or for the double.

Watching sequentially it is like any progression. If you are locked on
playing 3 or more, you get strings of doubles and vice versa.  So I am
looking (so far) at betting flat where I follow that trend. I bet for the
last thing that occurred. A double or 3 or more.  Hence I am in
the trend.  For flat betting it seems to work, and you really can't
get into TOO much trouble.

From there, I always seem to see a pendulum swing.  You are always going
0,+1,+2, +3, +2 +1 0 -1 -2 -3.  Etc.

So it seems worthwhile, if you get to -3 or something, to maybe bet 2 units,
and recoup.  Not a D'alenbert.

Having said this, if it works, you always have 3 sets of evens to look at.
And if you try you can find SOME iteration of this where it swung to -3 and
is ripe for a recoup and swing back.

Right now I'm just looking for comfort in the basic.  Not too far, maybe, from
Nathan's "easy bet method" with betting 1 dozen and a color. But a little
more specific.

Quote from: albertojonas on July 19, 2016, 03:53:18 PM
So what happens when you bet only one side non stop?

I'm trying to see a correlation between these subjects and these people.
http://betselection.cc/even-chance-8/flat-bet-for-correction/

Equally confused.  Feel like I could ask he same question of both.

Quote from: albertojonas on July 18, 2016, 05:36:12 PM
They select themselves by not showing more than "normal". 3 Vs 3.
The method is not openly explained. I opened the thread to show that Return to the mean exists and is exploitable.

Then I miss the point.

I think I understand that you are betting, I guess, 3 double streets at once
creating an even prop. Is that correct?

You are betting waiting to either win 1 unit or lose 3 in a flat bet scenario.

So are you saying that you should be able to win more 1 unit bets than
lose the 3 and start over just using any random method?

Or is the bet selection important somehow?

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Can you explain more clearly what these bet selections are?

Quote from: albertojonas on July 16, 2016, 03:37:34 PM
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I don't understand the actual method. You are betting
3 double streets to make an EC bet?

How are you selecting the double streets please?

Thanks

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Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 09, 2016, 12:37:59 PM
Mogul,



I don`t believe  that anyone ever played Ignatius  methods. He  was/ still is churning out  practically  one method a day. It is a hobby of his nothing spectacular.
System ideas on message board come and  go. I never ever considered anyone of those  as full value. 

Same as here at VLS bet selection. Nothing special in roulette or baccarat . No real Pros. Fumbling along.Still one of the better forum around. Good general information..

What matters is the PROPER bankroll  for the method of play.

Thanks.  Sad to know. Is that

a) an indictment of Ignatius?
b) An indictment of people who think or know that everything is garbage?
c) an indictment of lazy people?

If someone posts something here I'd thing there would be at least
one page of workouts. On it's face the performance of this method looks
interesting.  $25 chips and 20 units. Usually a $500 profit. A little waiting, but
I think it is good if you can bet large and just get it done. Flat bet.

Quote from: ignatus on September 11, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
This is the final tweak for this strategy. 7 streets bet (21 numbers). it should be faster to play... I tried a new set of live-spins, and they were all successful.

STEP (1): -Wait until a dozen sleep for exactly (3) spins. Now, when that happen bet for it to continue to sleep a fourth spin,--Bet all streets in the two dozens, all except the current street hit. ONCE then STOP.

STEP (2): After a win/loss, wait for the sleeper to awaken, then go to step (1)

Progression -none- FLATBET

5/5 Games won

Played with 25u bets (wingoal +500, stoploss -500)

This is old. Did anyone see this?  Any discussion?

Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 06, 2016, 12:10:06 PM
All 6 EC are involved   with  this particular bet selection. Bring the proper bankroll. No short cuts.

Knowledge of the game, bankroll, MM, and Discipline .

This reply   is given  as a guide line only. For recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk

Not  subject to any further discussion..

Nathan Detroit.

I guess I was thinking of RG,s method.