lol


Is eating horsemeat really that bad though? Let's put it to the vote - all those in favour say 'aye', all those against say 'neigh' 

Bit unlucky with the Chelsea Southampton game - Chelsea leading 2-1 in 2nd half, relatively comfortable, had big chance to make it 3-1 & you're looking good... miss, Southampton equalize.


Draw correct in Fiorentina-Roma 


Look forward to more 

Good luck with your picks Alexandro - will watch with interest! 

If you like the Guetting, you might like the 'Royal Baccarat Parlay'. I have used it in the past & do like it.

I used to have a link to it but it seems to be dead now - I've got a copy saved though - I'll give you the whole thing as it was originally laid out :


Royal Baccarat Parlay
Progression: For All Even Chance Games

Money Management is critical to success in the game of baccarat. You can spend your entire life
searching for the perfect bet selection; if you don't have the right bet selection then you are not going
to have long-term success. Progressions can be useful in the game, but only if you use them in the
right fashion. The progression that you use should mesh with your bet selection. You do not want to
chase your losses, for chasing your losses is a sure way to lose in the long run. Progressions do not
have to be steep, nor do they have to be explosive. The most powerful progressions are the ones that
can deliver small brute force, while keeping your risk at a minimal level. The progression that you are
about to learn is parlay progression with a unique twist.

This progression can only be used with systems that tend to get wins in clusters. It is designed to be
played with the Royal Baccarat System. There are some special rules that I apply to the Parlay
Progression, when using it for the Royal Baccarat System. The special Rules will not be included in this
document.

This progression is designed to be non-explosive. It is designed to take advantage of small clusters of
wins. If you want to play it more aggressive then you can. Your aggression level is up to you.
The Highest bet that you will make is 2 units until you reach +23 units. There are 2 phases to the
progression:
Phase 1:
1, 1.5, 1, 1.5 until you reach +3 units.

You will bet 1 unit. If you win the 1 unit bet then you will bet 1.5 units. If you lose the 1 unit bet, then
you continue betting until you get a win. If you lose 3 bets in a row, you will stop until you get a virtual
win, then return back to 1 unit.
If you win the 1 unit bet then you bet 1.5 units. If you win the 1.5 unit bet then you drop down to 1 unit.
If you lose the 1.5 unit bet then you continue betting 1.5 units until you get a win. If you lose 3 times in
a row then you stop, wait for a virtual win, then continue betting at 1 unit. So you drop from 1.5 to 1
unit.
Play this way until you make 3 units. So you want to hit +3 units. As soon as you make 3 units you have
two options. Option 1, quit the shoe. Option 2, move to the second stage.
Phase 2:
1.5, 2 units
This works the same as phase 1 but you play until you add 4 units onto your profit. When you add 4
units, you should be at least +7 units. You can either stop playing or drop back down to phase 1 then
continue the phase 1, phase 2 cycle.
When you reach +23 units, you will begin to use bigger bets. Phase 3 will be 2, 2.5; phase 4 will be 2.5, 3
and so on.
Your stop-loss will be between -5 to -9 units. Your win goal will be between 3-7 units. If the shoe is
good, then shot for over 10 units.
If you have trouble playing in .5 units then you can make phase 1 be 1,2 and phase 2 be 2,3.
If you lose 2 shoes in a row then you will want to increase your base bet. So let's say that you lost 2
shoes. For the third shoe you will increase your base bet (previously at $20) to 2 units, now $40.
This progression is about locking up your profits and taking advantage of the strings of wins, while
keeping losses small. For this reason, it is important to have a solid bet selection. If you are interested
in a good bet selection to apply this to then I highly suggest that you consider the Royal Baccarat
Method.

Contact royalbaccarat@gmail.com
Example of Betting Repeats:
R Bet 1 unit
R Win bet 1.5 units [+1]

R bet 1 unit [+2.5]
B lose, bet 1 unit [ +1.5]
R lose, Bet 1 unit [+.5]
R win, Bet 1.5 units [+1.5]
R win, Bet 1 unit [+2.5]
R win, bet 1.5 units [+3.5] now on phase 2
R win, bet 2 units [+5]
B lose, bet 2 units [+3]
R lose, bet 2 units [+1]
B lose, bet 2 units [-1] now drop to 1.5 of phase 2
B Virtual win
R lose, bet 1.5 units [-2.5]
R Win, bet 1.5 units [-1]
R win, bet 2 units [1]
R win, bet 1.5 units [2.5]
B lose, bet 2 units [+.5}
B win, bet 2 units [+2.5]
B win, bet 1.5 units [+4}

********************************************************


If you do have close wins, it may work well for you.
I didn't really go up through the levels too much, just the first two - I tended to use it to try & recoup safely after losing 7 or 8 units flatbetting.

Quote from: Bally6354 on January 16, 2013, 12:23:07 AM


I like the Guetting Progression.

I used to do a lot of tennis betting & used the Guetting as a kind of over-arching progression.
For example, if you're betting favourites in the main, it may take 3 winners to reach your +1 even unit, but just use it within the normal Guetting framework of moving up to 1.5units base bet after reaching +2units etc.

If you do get on a good run, profits can increase nicely - but be ready to drift up & down, seemingly for weeks sometimes.

I tried it recently again on straight-up numbers. It sure is a grinder!

Best wishes for 2013 to everyone & your families,
Health, Happiness & bit of roulette success in the mix

Gets the thumbs up from me 


Just ran it alongside a session, tried all features & all seems to be working well.


Thanks Vic, & thanks WannaWin.

Quote from: Bayes on December 21, 2012, 03:19:13 PM
Looking at it that way, casino games like roulette and baccarat don't seem so bad. Of course, the "math boyz" will say that the odds are fixed in the casino so there's no way you can win even though the negative expectation is less. I say - hogwash! 

Let them chuckle derisively, some of us know better. 

I hope you're right Bayes - to be at St. Peter's Gate (or Hell's Door  ) knowing we never had a chance anyway would be gutting!

Quote from: Bally6354 on December 21, 2012, 02:51:50 PMBubbly Bailey finished 9th. 

This one never drifted in the market and hovered around the 5/1 mark for most of the day.  I don't think it was wanted today as it was beaten after about 3 furlongs never getting in a blow!

I watched the odds looking for a sign    The winner & another came in just before it started.. Is it herd mentality or people with the eye & in the know? (There was almost £850,000 on this race on Betfair, so it's not track-side punters is it? Or are they relaying messages?... ??)


Also read the Betfair forum page on Laddies & 365, do you ever feel this is a hard way to make an easy living??

Best wishes to you & your mum Proof 

Looking at MarignyGrilleau's results for the 3 states bet selection http://betselection.cc/even-chance/even-chances-3-states/
& using an example which produced an end result of 0 over 62 placed bets, we can see how this progression turns that 0 into a 4 unit profit.
Biggest bet 2 units, Max drawdown was less than 10 units.




L L L W L L W W L L W L L W L W L L L W W L W W L W W L W L L L W L W W W W =18W-20L


1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 =0


************************************************************
W W=2W-0L


+2


************************************************************
L L L L L L W W L L W L W W W L L W W W=9W-11L


1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 1 1 = 0


************************************************************
W W =2W-0L


+2


Total: +4

I've only managed to do it once.


You need to be based in the UK to get it though - was 32Red & they give you £32 no deposit bonus (or at least they did about a year ago).


It's all RNG - no live dealers - but I cashed out about £140, no problems such as having to deposit cash before withdrawing either. I can't remember the exact terms & conditions but you had to play through the deposit x amount of times as usual.


I got another free £10 from them later but failed on that attempt.


Plenty of others I've looked at fall under the category of those mentioned by Bally above though, so it's not something I've tried very often.

Thank you for posting the software - I think it goes a long way to illustrating the reasons behind some of the statements you make that can be hard to digest from words only.
Looking at the local(?) effect, whilst being able to see the global effect at the same time, as you do with the software, can be done very quickly as you say.


Analysing it & making winning bets from it is another story of course.
But the software does allow you to see all that is happening in the ec's & dozens at once.


Are you using progressions on the ec's similar to the ones on the dozens - eg. bet big, then pull some profit & parlay the rest?

This is v nice  - thank you 

Thank you Malcop    Your time & effort is much appreciated.


I'm going to test some numbers with it, & hopefully some options for progressions will come up.


cheers again

One thing I notice that has been pointed out before, is that when R/B chops, one of other EC's tends to streak.