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#61
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
February 13, 2017, 05:59:26 PM
I read recently last posts of Sputnik.
To determine best profit target and stoplose for the method.
I think all the time That BV no Zero Roulette is somewhat manipulative.
Because again by playing flat rate I have a profit.
Play method was 3 DS as EC, chasing the trend. After 4 losing  bets wait  for  virtual  win.
Set a target profit of 10 for wining bets, +30 units, stop lose -60 units, 20 losing bets
I won 7 sessions, 2 lose.
UP 90 units, all flatbet.

I tried to play a game full regression sessions with UP and pull
2-1-2-2-3-4-5-1, but after 300 spins it was zero and I finished
#62
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
February 09, 2017, 06:27:54 PM
Today. I tested this method with betselection from post 11
On the idea of clues me bleep24 from another forum
We always play last 3 DS if we will get hit in Play That 3 DS to the first loss, then take the last 3 DS and play the same way. every spin we have bet.

In this way, always playing the hottest DS as an even bet.
I do not know how it will look in the long run, but if in a similar way in the double dozen, Mayby be even beter with EC.

I had pretty good results, with regression
2-1-2 and 3 attempts to end the sequence


I know that this sequence can be longer, but the posts Sputnik say, that this will catch 3 spins of domination, maybe this is the solution.
Regression seems to me, that the longer the more difficult to achieve.
#63
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
February 09, 2017, 09:29:38 AM
Returning to the name of topic.
This time we take EC bets.
Bet selection
Always we play when we see single chop for continuations, BR ........
The second pattern  we play is when we see double formation and next is single, example BBR .. now  Play That formation of doubles will continue BBRRBB ...., till the lose.

Regression
As far as I remember, it will be
2-1-2
In this play only 3 attempts to finish this Sequence, if we lose 3 times first bet is the end of session.
#64
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
February 08, 2017, 12:42:25 PM
If there is no edge in bet selection process, or even long term expectations to zero, this kind progression dosent work.
Thinking further if we have good bet selection, Mayby VDW by Nickmsi, when we have very good selection with medium drowdawns, we can utilize this type of progressions for EC bets in the rise stakes after - 20 units from highest bankroll, next Increase will be after we lose 40 bets from highest point it be -60 units, and so on on.Steakes table do not grow very fast, highest willbe 9 units, virtual limit is 180 losing bets from highest point.
#65
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
February 08, 2017, 12:04:00 PM
My last post, it was just a theory, I do not like this type of  very  deep negative progression where you need a very large bankroll for  session, this  is  not  playable method.
#66
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
February 08, 2017, 09:26:23 AM
I do not play more, for lack of time.
But I had an idea, only theoretically about long term negative progression.
If this bet has a selection edge, or is very close to the zero point. We can try something like that, raise bet + 1, after 10 Loses, 10 losses is 20 units from our highest bankroll if we are again 10 lost bets, raising the stakes again. If this recovery step to reduce the stakes. Whenever reaches new high, the reset progression,
It is very stretched d'Alambert. bankroll we need is about 1,000 units, that's 9 steps progression.
Its very long progression, some times we need to reach thousands of spins.
This progression is only theoretical, because it acts only on the roulette nozero and disconnections make impossible to play there.
#67
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
February 04, 2017, 04:33:11 PM
Sputnik .I wrote to you in the chat, but I do not know if my  informatio is delivered
Im from Poland

About bet selection
I played spins 12750
The whole time I was ahead  , now +70 units, highest point was +180 units.
Im still do not know if it's edge or just the variance of RNG.

I have another idea for the bet selection
On the idea of clues me bleep24 from another forum
We always play last 3 DS if we will get hit in Play That 3 DS to the first loss, then take the last 3 DS and play the same way. every spin we have bet.

In this way, always playing the hottest DS as an even bet.
I do not know how it will look in the long run, but if in a similar way in the double  dozen, Mayby be even beter with EC.
#68
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
January 31, 2017, 03:16:27 PM
Thanks Sputnik
I also think that regression is a very powerful tool.
In a few days I'll try to  play on live online table, with this bet selection and see how it goes.
At RNG I have all the time problems with disconnections.
#69
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
January 29, 2017, 11:30:19 PM
I had little time for the last 2 days.
I decided to check something, I started to play on nozero BV roulette.
Bet selection from first post, so 2 dozens bet, flat bet.
After 3750 spins  im UP exactly  +41 units
I do not know why, whether it is possible to achieve a fine edge by flatbet selection?
It works only on nozero roulette.
So far, I do not know if the software is malfunctioning and show lucky variance?
#70
And the time on the most important question what MM recommend.
For doubledozen we have Regression, for EC I got something diffrent.
But I have no progression for dozens, maybe some positive progressions  by Kattila
But I never fully  understood them .
If we  have  stable bet  selection , we need very good  progression to  make  money.
#71
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
January 19, 2017, 04:13:25 AM
Sports betting is the main area, which interests me because we have  edge by picking good events or  having good source of information. Roulette treats as a hobby, it seems to me that the difficulties that are used by online casinos, long-term profit is realy hard to achieve.
When I will have time preferable to try to play with this strategy.
If we have the edge with this strategy, it is minimal, and probably have to play a lot of spins to achieve any profit.
#72
Multiple locations / Re: John Patrick's Trend strategy
January 18, 2017, 12:02:12 PM
And I thought a little , we can use  this  kind of  regression  in live sports betting on Betfair, we can use on any 1.50 odds bet, but if we have a lot of time would suggest waiting  football matches when we have 0-0 for the 2nd half, waiting odds That will increase to 1.53 ,and then bet over 0.5 goals.
Maybe we are able to some increase our effectiveness.
#73
Online Casinos / Re: AVOID BETVOYAGER AT ALL COSTS
January 18, 2017, 06:30:40 AM
You know what bet voyager does when you play after disconnection.
If you make the game a long progression and you're in a hole, say-200 units.
Then disconnection, must close the session, start new too continue session with higher stakes, after the draw session over say +1 unit above bankroll.
In reality you are on minus -20 units, becose they take this commision from 200 units.
I play no zero roulette, and sometimes when session is really long, I have 2 or 3 disconections, and after that i won this session, and above  a new high, in reality on the big minus.
#74
Multiple locations / John Patrick's Trend strategy
January 16, 2017, 05:51:16 PM
Some time ago, I played with BV nozero roulette.
The strategy was very simple, used a trend bet selection and John Patrick's regression.

Bet selection
When I started sessions waited for 2 different dozen , and Play That they repeat, Play That 2dozens till  lose. In this way we play each spin, because if you fall out sleeper, we have 2 different last dozens.

Regression
We go up when we win
4-2-3-4-5
  when we come to 5 units and the win, session is over
stop lose is 3 attempts, if the lose 3 times first bet ,end session.

To my surprise, after a few thousand spins, BR was positive.
I do not think this will continue in the long run, but the results were very interesting.
I do not play this strategy further for lack of time.
#75
Online Casinos / Re: AVOID BETVOYAGER AT ALL COSTS
January 01, 2017, 06:54:12 AM
They do not return the stake, which is on the table during disconection.
I have problems with connection, even fun mode.
I understand . But a few times I had So that, with the hard sessions, came disconnection, I tried to play, new session was even worst, and have not seen better situation, for my strategy, and play long progression and lost.
By the end I do not know That trials, are fully independent, if we have first 500 spins from hell we wait for corection, but we have disconnection an next new 500 spins is from hell with no corection, I do not save results of spins, but i see very strange sessions.
For me, this casino is almost not playable