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#16
Straight-up / Re: WINKEL'S G.U.T: Some Resources Listed
January 23, 2014, 02:31:06 AM
GUT does work and while it might seem like voodoo it can make a good profit when played right. 

The biggest problem newbies face is having to put a lot of time into practicing with it and getting proficient seeing the crossings and betting them. There are a number or very good trackers that do most of the work for you.
#17
As far as I can see from reading this thread at least GreatGrampa clearly beat the challenge with a method which he demonstrated twice with an very full explanation the second time.  Unfortunately, it seems his method was too complicated for Albalaha to comprehend so he dismissed it on both ocassions.
#18
General Discussion / Re: THe new BETVoyager view
January 12, 2014, 06:07:27 AM
I think FLAT was actually saying it is rigged like RNG.
#19
General Discussion / Re: THe new BETVoyager view
January 12, 2014, 12:18:07 AM
Quote from: FLAT_IN_O on January 04, 2014, 05:29:01 PM
Is there any players seen or just only girls spinning.. ???
If only girls then it must be RNG again,but girly version...

How is it RNG if you can see them spinning the ball each time?
#20
Yes you are right Pockets, it is much bigger than the excel figures show, excel only shows the negative.  The biggest drawdown is around 2500. 

The progression is just 1 2 3 4 etc with a cap set at whatever you like.  You could also use a limited Marti or any other negative progression you want.  I found a cap of 5 to be the best one.  Then you need to bet in sets of whatever you find appropriate and if your BR is not increased after the set number of spins you apply the next step of the progression until you hit the ceiling then either keep betting the ceiling or revert back to 1.  By setting your ceiling low your bet does not get very high.  In this case 40U.

This is a grind, not a get rich quick bet.  Katouras said that in his interviews, he said the problem with most players is they are looking for easy money and lose because they are in too much of a hurry.  Winning requires work, losers don't like to have to work to win.
#21
Playing with a extremely simple progression I was able to produce the attached results from 360,000 real spins from Weisbaden.

The biggest drawdown was 1078.
#22
I have altered the way I bet on this now and use two progressions depending on where I am in terms of profit or loss.

The first progression is as original, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9...etc, once in a loss position.

The second progression only kicks in if in profit, but have not had a hit for 42 spins. 

So instead of just flat betting until in loss position I use progression 1,1(42spins),3,6,12,24. BR is normally wiped out if the 24 unit spin doesn't get a hit, which can be up to 126 spins. 

Only once so far since starting to use this progression have I been wiped out.  I still start with a BR of 588 units.  The profit margins have been much better though.

So far I seem to get a hit at least once in every 84 spins even on the really bad runs, this obviously could be just be luck.
#23
I used this for a short time as well and like Ralph used a +1 progression on a win.  Good results but it was costly at times when the numbers went against me.
#24
Quote from: RouletteKEY on March 15, 2013, 06:26:14 PM
I kinda like repeating numbers (hot numbers).  Have you tried this method by starting with the hottest number in the last so many spins?  I guess if 21 is the magic number here.  Use the hottest number over the last 21 spins to start with and then add the hottest number of each subsequent 21 spin cycle to the mix instread of just randomly selecting.

Just asking...
if you have 37000 spins tested I thought maybe you would have some data on that variation of the bet selection and I would be curious as to the variance in performance versus the random selection based on whatever number popped up at the time of the next selection.

I've thought about doing that, but most of my testing has been on Betvoyager and when you start you have to bet right away so I just start with Number 1, then taking the next one that comes out for the next number.

I got sick of recording all the numbers after a while so I just played and kept the results of 200 units up or 399 spins. 

Of late I have been ending sessions 100+ units up.  So many times I would be 150+ units up early in the session and then it would stagnate, and take forever to get 200+ to end.
#25
Straight-up / Extremely Simple 1 Number Straight Up
March 15, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
This is so simple, but at the moment it is working.  :o

Bank Roll needed is 588 units.

Play any number for 21 spins right off the bat with 1 unit.  I start playing number 1 for simplicity every time.  Continue betting the initial unit from the start of the 21 spins to the end. 

Make a note of the first number hit, it is the number you will bet on for the next 21 spins.

If your BR is lower than 588 when starting the second round of 21 (no hits), add 1 unit for the entire 21 spins of the 2nd round.  Note the first number hit in the second round, it is the number you will be using for the 3rd round.

At the end of the second round if the BR is lower than 588, add another unit for the next number and bet it for another 21 spins.

Once your BR is higher after the competion of a 21 spin round than 588, you drop your bet back to 1 unit.  Otherwise you keep adding a unit for each 21 spin round until you either get your BR back or lose it.

It takes 7 rounds of 21 spins to lose 588 units if you get no hits at all.  This has only happened to me once in just over 150 sessions (around about 37000 spins), that does not mean it will not happen more often.  You don't win every session, but the losing sessions tend to be small and occasionally a winning session can be spectacular if you have the balls to stay with it.

I set a stop win of 200 units or 399 spins (19 rounds), whichever comes sooner.  My stop loss is my 588 unit initial BR.

I have only played this on RNG, but I expect it would work on live.

My biggest win is 528 units, the reason it was over 200 was that I got 2 hits in the 18th round betting 12 units per spin.  I always complete my round if my BR allows it.

12 units per spin is the highest I have ever had to go to, mostly I get to 3 or 4 units.

My progression if BR is lower than 588 after a round is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,.........

Example as follows is from one of my very short sessions, 63 spins:

Initial number is 1.

Bet is 1 Unit.

23<----Number for second round of 21 spins.
5
25
29
19
11
16
19
4
29
25
29
26
14
25
5
27
7
19
6
11

No hits so next bet is 2 units.

13<----Number for third round of 21 spins.
16
6
23<----Hit +70
25
18
20
36
23<----Hit +70
7
1
10
0
8
27
15
23<----Hit +70
0
29
20
28

Round 3 bet 1 unit again, BR is now 741.

27<----Number for forth round of 21 spins.
22
25
13<----Hit +35
0
1
1
0
26
34
35
35
33
32
7
9
20
13<----Hit +35
12
1
2

BR is now 792, 204 units won, session ends.