thanks

Quote from: Sputnik on February 02, 2013, 09:55:26 AM
sogget why do you continue with this topic? just curios!
Can't you see that Ignatus have much to learn about the game.

Because I don't get it
people say they are winning with this, making money piece of cake so I am curious
He has much to learn yes, but we all do, you can never know all 
I just want to test it the proper way
there are periods he doesn't bet so I am a bit lost

@ Stepkevh
that's another way, now I am definitely lost
i'll let ignatus clear it all up for us

Ignatus, please answear me this

do you play:

A)  wheel dozens coming in:
1
2 - trigger to bet 3
1 - L and trigger to bet 3
...

second example:
1
2 - trigger to bet 3
2 - L, no bet as no trigger
1 - trigger to bet 3


or do you play
B)  wheel dozens
1
2 - trigger to bet 3
2 - L, bet 3
2 - L bet 3
1 - L bet 3
...


it hit me that I may have gotten it wrong
from what I understand you are playing the B way, but from your sessions I don't know anymore
I think I am not the only one
you can see why we told you 10 L is nothing, it can go bigger, you can have ie
1
2 - trigger bet 3
2
2
2
2
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
1
3

now that's 15 L's in a row, but playing the A) way it is only a win on step 4
please can you clear this up? thanks

Quote from: spike on February 01, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
what's the difference. If you won ten sessions of $10 each,
they take $1 from each session. Or they take $10 from the
total at the end of 10 sessions. Its the same amount.

yep, but lets say you lose your first session, 50 bucks
they don't take nothing
next day you win 50 bucks - they take 10%
so you should be even now but you are -5$
before the change that wouldn't cost you anything
that's how I understand the change anyway

Quote from: ignatus on February 01, 2013, 11:05:48 AM

I won 4000, playing live. Never got a very bad streak so far, 7-8 spins without hit at most. TRUE. There may be extreme cases, but then one can play with stoploss at 4 losses in a row to prevet that.


Think it's bad people claiming this strategy won't work when they haven't played it.

I am not a bad man
I do want you to make money, I just think you are a little to eager with roulette, its not an ATM machine
Your attachement "session6" if I am correct you have a 11 spin loser there, and it seems you are not playing the way you say you are
there are L's then nothing then again L's

I have nothing against you, go make money I'll be happy for you

wow 6000 euros? 

very nice ralph, very nice indeed

Quote from: Gizmotron on February 01, 2013, 06:42:09 AM
Here's the really big deal. It doesn't matter if what I say is right. People are getting it. I have already opened a Pandores box. Randomness studies leads to solutions that offer successes.

well you sure have me starting to think that is the right path

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 31, 2013, 05:34:27 PM
ignatus

Beware of thinking it can't go X.  It can usually go X + 1 and will do it.

You're one of the good guys!  Just be careful.

Sam

it can go X + X too 

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 31, 2013, 05:54:07 PM
Here's a trigger for you. Count to ten, open your wallet, grab all you money, light it on fire, and scratch your head. Next, take the clue.

Ignatus please listen to other people, If you say you have seen it go to 7-8 do you not think it can then go to double that?
if you play this with your money you will lose it - friendly advice
if you don't belive us go and try it - just use small stakes so you don't lose too much

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 31, 2013, 10:40:21 PM

In all that there is, there is one tactic that must be dealt with. There must be a constant vigilance with regards to what is currently happening. Wishful thinking leads to disaster.

The secret to beating this is in being aware of the current states. You must know what characteristics of randomness are working. That can be discussed for any betting group. So if it where me, that is where discussion might be the greatest value .

I fully agree with this
mechanical systems will fail
you can't have a system like if number 1 hits play this, if 2 hits play that (just a simple example)
you have to change with every spin - because every spin is independant
my english is not good as your is guys so I can't and don't know how to have a smart conversation with fancy words, I keep it simple
If every spin is random then there is no way of knowing what will come next, it's random
anything can and wil happen
thinking that anything can give you an edge over that is no good
yes, you can argue about VB but then the wheel is not random is it? (dealer signature and all)
wha I am trying to say is I agree with Gizmo - a way of play shoud change with the spins and bet different every time ( ie today after number 1 you bet this, later after number 1 you bet that)
hope you understand what I am trying to say

Quote from: ignatus on January 30, 2013, 09:36:45 AM

How can it be 816u? Explain more, (Last step is reaching table limit-)

your progression:
1+1+2+3+5+8+11+17+20 = 68 *12 (numbers bet) = 816 units
and on the last step if you win are at -96 units
your gain per step is:
24,12,24,24,36,48,24,36,-96

am I wrong?

If my math is right you are risking 816 (12 numbers) units and a hit on your last step leaves you at -96 units?

Quote from: Bayes on January 30, 2013, 08:34:23 AM
Two in a row or 2 in 3 doesn't really qualify as 'hot', and in any case, spins are independent so a statement like "given event X, what is the chance of event Y?" is exactly the same as "what is the chance of event Y?". In other words the "given event X" part is redundant.

I see
yes you are right
an eyeopener, thank you

hmmm, I though it did make a difference, can it go cold just like that? from being hot to cold, without hitting a few times and being "warm"?

hey guys
just wondering if anyone here tested something similar and can help me out;

if a street hits back to back, or twice within 3 spins, what's the most spins it needs to hit again? I tested for a couple of thousand spins and the most I found was 40 spins, once
eveything else was below that
I know a street can sleep for more than that, I am asking for how long can it sleep after it hits 2 times back to back or within 3 spins
thanks

Quote from: Ophis on January 29, 2013, 02:39:51 PM


seeing from replays it looks like im the only one who is into it... so won't ask if anyone understand it.

I am interested in this too, just don't get it all
that's why I hope you code it