Quote from: Bally6354 on January 28, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
The one criticism I do have about system9 is that using the streets as a betting vehicle does not allow me to be as creative as I would like and I also don't like covering so many numbers.

This idea is about 18 months old. I have since come up with system18 and system36.

I wanted to develop something which did not take as long to get started and which covered less than 50% of the board.

System 36 is the most dynamic because it bets on single numbers. I have got it down to roughly between 8-12 numbers and still get some amazing winning runs with some additional concepts that I threw in.

It goes to prove that this game is not unbeatable. I now find myself winning most sessions I play. The only downside is that it does take a lot of mental effort. So I just play short sessions looking to hit a few wins and then stop and have a break.

well, you can't have it all

are you going to share system36 with us? or if you already did and I missed it can you post a link?thanks

ooo, I like the sound of this
great job Bally, very nice
you think it can work just by flatbetting?

and if Ophis is gonna code it... 

I guess we can change red and black?
can we use other EC's?
maybe wait for a loss first, then play?
should we play this on a real wheel with the zero?

nice to see you back
so far you are nailing it
keep up the good work

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 18, 2013, 06:49:49 PM
Spike explained his method in one of those 16,000+ posts at GG.

I couldn't find it, can you post a link or something?

Quote from: atlantis on January 17, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
Here is demonstrated same idea reduced to a CODE 2:
Play after 2 virtual L's in a row...

Bet patterns:

HE
H?---bet O

HO
H?---bet E

LE
L?---bet O

LO
L?---bet E

Progression: 1-1-2 (reset)

nice
a lot faster
wonder how this will perform

Quote from: spike on January 18, 2013, 09:09:38 AM
Smart guy you are. You're correct. The only way
you would know is if you had a method that wins
more than it loses. If you had that, you could test
in a myriad of situations and determine what works
and what doesn't.

Guess what? Go and read my 16,000 posts on GG
(that's right, 16,000), and we'll talk again...

I agree with you
btw, it says "only" 15144 posts
will take a look, thanks

Quote from: spike on January 17, 2013, 10:29:07 PM
Want to beat roulette? Study how random works,
understand the game. Hardly anybody here talks
about random, they treat it like its an obstacle
they have to overcome. Its not an obstacle, its the
tool you use to beat the game. Random IS the game,
for god's sake.

Could you make a thread and talk about it? If you are right and this is the key shouldn't we have a topic about that and research it more? I for one would be interested, I know others would be too 

weather HAR works or not - you can't possibly know
why?
because if the wheel is really random then you have no way of testing or knowing that ( leading to the fact that it makes no difference weather you play HAR or not? )
JL has 950 wins in a row, maybe he will hit 5 losses in a row tomorrow? its random so anything is possible - that's why we (at least me) love the game
just my opinion - I could be wrong 

can you add the result of the match beside your prediction so people can see how many you won/lost?

draw correct
if I was betting I would have gone with 3+ goals for Chelsea based on your pick so it would have passed
keep it up

Quote from: albalaha on January 15, 2013, 02:26:27 PM
            You can see drawdowns yourself very clearly in the bot graph. This bot is not for public release. Playtech casinos are being added too in it. You can PM Ophis to buy or hire it.

Ok,
Can you tell us if this bets on EC, dozens, straight up or what? and are the stakes within table limits? what's was the max bet?

very nice job guys

with the safer mode what is the max DD over the same spins (the first few graphs) ?
and how less did the BR end then? Is it worth the safer way?
Can it be played live?
Will you release the tracker/bot? Through MST?

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 12, 2013, 01:06:23 PM

Another interesting observation recorded over these 250 games. Is how solid a single vertical line is.

Over that sample of games. Its never gone more than 10 deep without a match on either line. I think the winning potential of this method played H.A.R could be off the chart. All things considered. With only 53--65 wins required to recover a progression. Its going to work.


L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
W----The longest its taken either line to hit a match. Food for thought indeed...

I took a look at atlantis last sample with dozens and colums, i stopped counting after 12 times it went over 10 spins, the longest being 21 so don't hold your breath there
impresive results non the less
6L's as trigger and 10 steps progression, think it could be played without H.A.R? would it stand its ground?

very nice
you are living proof that roulette can be beaten, you are beting it every day

that is very dangerous around Christmas time, lots of HOHO's around