Quote from: JohnLegend on January 18, 2013, 06:07:19 PM
And then he attacks others who say they can win at this game.

I attack you because you make flat out wrong
statements about the game and about random.

Quote from: soggett on January 18, 2013, 09:35:21 AM

I agree with you
btw, it says "only" 15144 posts
will take a look, thanks

I have another 1000 posts under spike100 to make
it over 16,000 posts.

Quote from: soggett on January 18, 2013, 07:26:32 AM

weather HAR works or not - you can't possibly know
why?
because if the wheel is really random then you have no way of testing

Smart guy you are. You're correct. The only way
you would know is if you had a method that wins
more than it loses. If you had that, you could test
in a myriad of situations and determine what works
and what doesn't.

Guess what? Go and read my 16,000 posts on GG
(that's right, 16,000), and we'll talk again...

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 18, 2013, 05:41:21 AM
Giz you don't get it and neverwill.

I don't even like Gizmo and he knows more about
this game than you ever will. We have a state called
Texas. They have a saying there, when somebody
is a braggart with nothing to back him up, he's
'all hat and no cattle'.  That means he struts around
like a real cowboy, running his mouth, saying stupid
things, but in reality he's just a fancy hat with nothing
in the barn.

that's you.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 18, 2013, 05:35:52 AM
Oh I've been getting somewhere alright, you are simply not the authority on this game

How would you know..

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 17, 2013, 10:53:27 PM
I've been beating roulette for 8 years. Its hardly breaking news that you have to beat random.

If you think HAR has any validity, you don't understand
random at all. AT ALL! My god, its like talking to a wall.
So you played for 8 years, so what. Making the same
mistakes, not understanding the game for 8 years is
no accomplishment. Random is all there is to roulette,
get your mind off the stupid layout and concentrate
on what's important and you might get somewhere.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 17, 2013, 09:55:44 PM
You be around to explain What im going to show you.

Saying what you're going to do in 6 months
is not an answer to anything. Its what you
know now that counts, not what you might
know at some future date.

I proved that HAR is meaningless. A few years
ago I took my method and played in on 5
streams of real numbers at the same time.
Bet on stream 1. Then bet on stream 2. Next
bet on stream 3. Etc. Pretending I'm in a real
casino doing hit and run. The results were exactly
the same as if I'd stayed with just one stream.

Get it? HAR made no difference at all, how could it?
Random is random, whether its coming from one
wheel or 5 wheels. HAR is a waste of time.

Want to beat roulette? Study how random works,
understand the game. Hardly anybody here talks
about random, they treat it like its an obstacle
they have to overcome. Its not an obstacle, its the
tool you use to beat the game. Random IS the game,
for god's sake.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 17, 2013, 09:16:18 PM
In continuous play house edge means something. In H.A.R it means little that's why I play H.A.R it is the only sure way to negate the house edge.

My god. Its all ONE BIG GAME! Jumping to another
table or casino with hit and run does NOTHING
NOTHING NOTHING to change or negate the edge.

This is roulette 101 stuff. This is newbie folly. I
can't believe the smarter people here (Victor?),
let you get away with the statements you make.

Wrap your head around the fact that random is
random, jumping from one table of random outcomes
to another table of random outcomes changes
nothing. HOW COULD IT? Random outcomes are
not connected to anything, they're RANDOM.

Good grief.

Quote from: Bayes on January 17, 2013, 09:07:27 PM
and in so few spins (the number of spins over which you use the progression), anything can happen.

Finally, a voice of reason. Where this system fails is
when it loses, it loses big time. To think that never
happens, just because it didn't in practice, is folly.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 17, 2013, 09:01:35 PM
Spike the day you have the nads to put up

Anybody can put up stuff that doesn't work, why would
I have any interest in doing that. Its meaningless. You
put up something that beats the house edge? Where
is it, I missed that.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 17, 2013, 08:22:21 PM


The problem for you Giz and your counterpart. Is you think you know too much. As if your years guarantee unlimited wisdom.

And the problem with you is, you don't understand how
random works. You think you can trick it, outsmart it,
make it your slave. This monstrosity will be found to lose
right where its supposed to lose. Because it doesn't give
you the EDGE. To win consistently, you must have the
EDGE. You never talk about that, because you don't understand
it. You're too busy trying to be tricky..

Quote from: albalaha on January 13, 2013, 04:54:57 AM
you may lead many to commit suicide, believing you.

I said that a few weeks ago. This guy doesn't play
for real money, EVER, listen to him at your own risk.

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 13, 2013, 12:01:07 AM
Why is July 19th the day, a milestone?

He did the exact same thing on VLS. it's a 'safe' date, its so far
in the future that people will forget, he'll be banned, or have
disappeared before then. Its an old flim flam trick.

If you're going to play this insanity in a real casino,
bring your life savings and a sleeping bag. You'll
go broke and be real tired too.

Quote from: Bayes on January 08, 2013, 03:28:25 PM
Yep, some seem to think that there's some kind of force which pulls the outcomes back to balance in the short term,

Roulette always seeks to balance itself, but its an erratic process.
Its undependable and maddening, you're right to ignore it completely.
It always balances in the long run, unfortunately the casino only
allows bets in the extreme short term.