Quote from: Gizmotron on December 31, 2012, 03:59:57 PM
I got these questions on a pm:
" You mentioned that it will take others to tell me your software works.

Lots of others. Lots and lots. And probably even then
it won't be understood.

Of course hit and run is absurd. Anybody who says it isn't
doesn't understand the nature of random outcomes. The
only way hit and run would be effective is if you could accurately
predict the next outcome, and you can't. This subject was
discussed to death on the old GG and nobody ever proved
hit and run was any more effective than any other system.
They all lose right at the house edge. Anybody who believes
otherwise is deluding themselves.

Quote from: Ralph on December 17, 2012, 08:13:51 PM
not in one night, but it can be tested.

You first...

Quote from: Ralph on December 17, 2012, 03:24:02 PM
The airball has a random outcome at about 2.7% of a fair odds, as any roulette.

You can't possibly know that because you haven't recorded the
huge number of spins needed to make that determination. It
could be running on an program of 5% and you wouldn't be able
to tell the difference.

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 17, 2012, 01:54:50 AM
Spike, don't be ridiculous. You can't give me advice... I'm happy with what I do. I wouldn't change anything for the world.

LOL! I wasn't giving you advice, good god. I don't care
what you do, just don't say you learned it from me. Be happy
with what you do, winning isn't everything...

Quote from: AMK on December 16, 2012, 10:48:04 PM
 
The conclusion for this method was that it could not be used to produce signification profit etc

That's because it probably used a progression. I only flat
bet, progressions are useless in the long run.

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 16, 2012, 09:44:00 PM
I deliberately seek out  explosive variance. It's the only reason I go to the casino. Of course there's going to be crashing downturns.

Ya think? That's what you want to avoid, crashing downturns. You
want a nice steady peaceful variance so you can make your goal
and leave. Extreme highs and extreme lows are very costly in
money and in time.

Its like having a conveyer belt in a factory. Do you want it to run real
fast at times, and have lots of breakdowns, or do you want it to run
nice and steady so you know exactly what to expect every day.

The casino is no different. Variance is your enemy, so you want it as
flat as possible. No hills and valleys, just little tiny bumps you can
barely feel, like you're driving a 1958 Lincoln. You're there to make
your goal, not spend hours waiting for the variance to come back
around your way. That's for gamblers and amateurs..

Quote from: Bayes on December 16, 2012, 11:22:01 AM


The harder way is to find bet selections which result in lower fluctuations, which is more fun, and can definitely be done.

But its the only way to defeat variance. You want variance
to be flat, no ups and downs. Players get all excited over
winning streaks, but they also mean there will be losing
streaks. A flat variance means you control the game and
its not controlling you. People would be far better off putting
all their time into bet selection than trying to find new ways
to fool the game with progressions and money management.
If you have flat variance, the need for money management
doesn't exist.

Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on December 16, 2012, 12:57:16 AM

Seriously?
Sometimes i think you make this posts to make fun of us. We were trying to discuss something here, please make a valid contribution,

Thanks for addressing this. There was so much bad and just
plain wrong info in that post that I couldn't deal with it.
Its like, how do address nonsensical ramblings other than
just ignoring them. Good reply post on your part.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 15, 2012, 09:52:17 PM

Its not ALL SET IN STONE.

Why, it could be a year before all those math degree
guys are set straight by you. Maybe even 2 years.
The Zone, that was just a bad deal, but you've got
the bull by the horns now. I can see it, Man of the
Year on the cover of Time magazine.

Don't you see that too, in your more lucid moments?
You still have lucid moments, don't you? But really,
how would you know. Forget I asked...

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 15, 2012, 08:59:47 PM
This talk of edge, house edge puts unecessary restraint and fear in peoples minds, Its overrated. If your method works, it works. No house edge or negative expectancy is going to change that.

Yeah, the experts are dopes, what do they know. Just
wait till July and you'll show em, you'll show em all. You'll
turn the gambling world on its ear, that's what you'll do.
In July. Or August at the latest. Maybe mid September,
but the point is, the math heads will be calling you sir,
and the casinos will be your servants.

In July. Or maybe a little later.........

Quote from: subby on December 15, 2012, 08:33:28 PM
if it can be done on airball can it be done on the live spin wheel with the person spinning the wheel?

Precision spinning by a real dealer is an urban legend.
People always know dealers who say they can do it,
or know somebody who knows somebody who can do
it. But its never been demonstrated or proven. This
would be the most dangerous person in the casino. He
could employ his friends and relatives to make the bets
and they would clean up. Its an urban legend, its not
possible.

Don't worry about the airball if you don't have a method
that wins more than 50% of the time. what's the difference,
losing there or on a real wheel. Losing is losing.

Quote from: FLAT_IN_O on December 15, 2012, 07:49:09 PM
.Next time you play have a close look when the ball lands in the pocket.
The bottom of the pocket is askew,and by the law of physics it should land on the askew part of pocket,
but it doesn't

Others have noticed this and reported it on other
forums. The ball sometimes sits towards the front of the
pocket and doesn't go to the back of the pocket until
later. Like a magnet or something (air?) is holding it
there.

Quote from: Bayes on December 15, 2012, 09:39:34 AM
But you could say that a regular roulette table is "programmed" to take 2.7% of your money, what's the difference? It may be easier to rig an electronic game like slots, but it doesn't need to be rigged in order to have a negative expectation

Ever notice airball roulette has much different rules than
regular roulette? The minimum amount to bet is always
very low, sometimes as low as 50 cents or a dollar. And
you can bet that minimum anywhere on the board, on
the inside or the outside. You can't do that in regular roulette,
you can't bet 50 cents on red and cover half the numbers.
They have a $5 minimum, you can bet 50 cents on the inside
numbers for a total of $5, or bet $5 on the outside, like red
and black.

Because airball is set up like a slot, it takes a pre-set percentage
of whatever is bet as a profit. No waiting for the house edge
to manifest itself like in regular roulette. No weeks or months when
roulette is in a slump and not making money because of lucky
big customer wins. Airball is money in the bank, just like a slot. The
slots never suffer from variance, they only suffer when people aren't
feeding them.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 15, 2012, 03:30:32 PM
Variance is less effective when you play H.A.R because you are not staying there long enough to be hurt.

You know, when you make comments like this that are
just totally wrong, you have the potential for hurting
people who play for real money and might believe you
know what you're talking about.

Variance plays NO favorites with anybody. It has nothing
to do with how much you bet or how long you play. You
can bet once every two days and variance will kill you
sometimes. Variance isn't an idea, it isn't a myth, it isn't
something you fool by being clever. Any real player that
says he isn't affected by variance is a liar, plain and simple.

Variance means your edge isn't high enough for you
to avoid inevitable losing streaks. The BJ counter who has
a 2% edge over the casino, and plays full time, can expect
a profit at years end. But in that year of playing, he can also
expect losing streaks that last for weeks, sometimes months.
He can lose half his bankroll. And he has the edge!

Now imagine some poor guy who has a system that depends
on progressions and doesn't even have the edge. He can expect
devastating negative variance that might wipe out his whole
BR. It doesn't matter if he sits and grind for hours, or plays hit
and run. Variance plays no favorites.

Saying you're not affected because you 'don't stay there long enough
to be hurt' is the talk of somebody who's never seen real casino play
in his life.