Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
  But, here, and other forums, they manage to try and prove each other wrong or misguided.
TC

that's for entertainment only, has nothing to do with
real playing.

poser - a person who pretends to be someone or something he is not

Quote from: ll l lll ll l lll on March 10, 2013, 12:12:45 PM


with time I will improve and these sessions will become consistently shorter. 

Maybe, maybe not. You can't know that. Are
you the same guy who uses a bar code for
his name on the VLS forum?

Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 01:43:27 PM
It's kind of obvious that you hold a particular grudge against me and others who speak their minds.TC

No, he's just good at spotting posers. He's been
around these boards for years, never assume you
know who you're talking to.

Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 01:31:26 PM
So what happens when you gather all of these roulette players to one table to beat the house. Can you imagine?
TC

It has no reason to happen, just like a meeting of
BJ card counters will never happen. Its pointless,
it would accomplish nothing. Advantage players are
not known to hang out together. They usually avoid
each other like the plague, with good reason. A meeting
in Vegas to have a pi**ing contest is silly, roulette
players have nothing to prove to each other, like poker
players do. The casino is our enemy, not the guy next
to us at the table.

You made 10 units in the first two sessions, betting what,
over 100 times. And not betting every spin. So you were
there for maybe 150 spins, that's about six hours. Do you
consider this a viable way to play? Just curious.

Quote from: esoito on March 10, 2013, 06:34:41 AM
Now's his chance to prove just how good, how professional  he really is...

You really have to help me out here. Do I see any
of you across the table from me at Thanksgiving?
Do you make decisions on what casinos I play at?
Am I involved with any of you on some financial
level I'm not aware of?

Please explain why I have to 'prove' anything to
you. Who are you, exactly..

Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 06:16:29 AM
I'm sure you professionals can make it. Prove that there are professional in this world.

Yeah, um, prove it to who, exactly. What's the point, I don't
get it. Does the winner get a trophy and a pat on the back?

Please give details on why anybody would do this.

Quote from: Gizmotron on March 09, 2013, 10:35:18 PM

There is no evidence that you can do anything

Sure there is, just not here on a public forum. Here we
discuss theory, in the casino we put it to the test.

The recipe for Coca Cola is a deep dark secret, locked
in a vault somewhere. They never discuss it. Yet evidence
that it works is everywhere. Would you fault them for
never revealing their secrets? I doubt it.

My evidence manifests itself every time I play. How else?

Quote from: Gizmotron on March 09, 2013, 09:16:41 PM
Professionals pass up opportunities to have a great feast, only to grind
away with the grist of meat & potatoes. Out of fear that the game will
make a meal of them, they retreat trembling.  No way.

There is so much wrong with this statement. Pro's
don't care about 'feasts', they see opportunity on
every table. Feasts are for the desperate. Pro's
don't 'grind', they get in and get out. Pro's have
no fear of the game, they own the game they play
when in the casino. The casino fears them, not
the other way around.

Your practice at home should be about playing the shortest
and simplest game you can, so you can leave as
soon as possible. Winning consistently is one thing,
making the casino let you win is quite another.

Quote from: The Crow on March 09, 2013, 08:35:35 PM
Professionals do not waste their time with long sessions.  They have a goal in mind and the take it.
TC

Exactly right. My sessions are very short, win 3 to 5 units
and get out. Its the size of the units that matter. You
don't want them to notice you, and if they do, by the time
they've called upstairs, you're already gone.

The old timers say "Get in, get it done, get out." Long sessions
are for amateurs and ploppies.

Quote from: Gizmotron on March 09, 2013, 05:17:04 PM


Whether Spike can win or not is irrelevant.

Oh  Au contraire. Roulette is a game about results, not theory.
Roulette is about winning money from a casino. They don't
care what your theories are, just if you can win or not.

Quote from: Gizmotron on March 09, 2013, 05:17:04 PM

Spike should set out to disprove the existence of the concept of a global
effect.

I would if I had even the foggiest idea what it is. You
started a thread about it, then abandoned it without
ever explaining what global effect is.

Tell me and I'll disprove it. Until then I'm afraid I can't
help you.

Quote from: The Crow on March 09, 2013, 07:21:49 AM
It's not linear, nor lateral. It's a cyclical, because it repeats itself.
TC

No, it not linear at all. Ever. If it were, it would
be easily beaten. Where is it cyclical? Please
give an example where 50 spins repeats in a
cycyle and is the same as another 50 spins. I've
never seen it. Again, if a cycle could be identified,
it would make the game easily beaten.

Please point out where I contradicted myself.

Quote from: Marshall Bing Bell on March 09, 2013, 01:31:55 AM
Often linear thinking is more than enough to win. Perhaps the best balance would be to flutter between the two.

Nobody can totally abandon linear thinking, its not possible.
Its always a combination of the two. If you try and explain
it, you end up sounding stupid. Whatever you say, its never
quite right.