Gizmo/spike you don't like the PB method...fine...

JL and others...you DO like PB and know it works for you.

Lets just remember to keep this site friendly and everyone respect other opinions without any hint of aggression 

The bottom line is....we all want to fleece the casinos

This is moving away from PB into FIVE...new thread perhaps gents?

Moderator's note: This topic has been split. Please confine comments on FIVE to this thread.

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tc what's a clicker?

When tracking 2 methods....E/O and H/L and you use the marquee to get your first 20 numbers...it takes about 20-30 mins to get at least 1 of the bets to appear and about 40 mins or so to get both appearing. If it has gone 40 mins and no sign of a bet then I just ignore it and shutdown the pc and go do something else.

40 mins to get +2 units....or 40 mins to get -14 units either way if you spread that out over a month you'll still end up with a fairly large whack of games played.

Speramus has, since the 13th Nov, racked up about 70 or so, games played...where a single game is a single bet...so if I'm tracking the 2 methods in PB then I'm playing 2 games at the same time. I play very much on a "when I get some free time" scenario. I don't play every hour on the hour for dozens of games each day, the win to loss ratio would fall to levels where there isn't simply any point in playing given you're breaking even...or worse 

The less games you play in the PB...the longer your win streaks. I'm happy to grind out just 20 units a month and after month 9 (yes a long time but I have the patience that others might not have) I will be betting £11+ per unit

£11, £22, £44

Even if that £11 worth of 20 units won...sure that's over £200 a month for doing what....reading my computer forums while keeping an eye on a tracker to see if any bets come up...not exactly difficult

IMO a lot of people on here play smaller units more often for similar money...I am aiming for LARGER units and play LESS often....for the same, or more, "money made" results at the end of the month that the smaller unit peeps are aiming for.

Tar if you can get your mindset away from the actual unit monetry values themselves....and focus on just the 1, 2, 4 unit bets to get a +1 unit result after a game....then at the end of the month...THEN you can convert the units won to the money value and see what money you have then.

Don't put too much pressure on yourself to win x amount of money....say to yourself that you'll be happy grinding out 20 units a month.... if each unit is £25 you'll be a happy boy

Quote from: VLS on November 28, 2012, 06:11:36 AM
I get you Sam.

Yes, we are aware every coder out there is free to charge what s/he wishes or even charge nothing at all... As to me, I'm devoting time to create what I believe is the best way, an "all-in-one" (tracker, tester, clicker and bot) which is extensible to any method.

While single trackers and the odd clicker can be given for free, this framework isn't going to be given away. It is intended to be distributed to subscribers, accompanying the $5.99 membership for the site.

Ralph, Normy, Ophis, Stef and any other fellow coder can charge as they please, but that's how I envision my framework: everyone puts up a little (their subscription) and they (subscribers) benefit as a group, so -as you can see- I'm with you on this one; there won't be only two people rowing, but the paying subscriber group as a whole

Cheers.

Well put and 100% 

Quote from: Bayes on November 21, 2012, 05:30:41 PM
I can see the points on both sides, but Sam makes a good case!

I think he's right - trolls should be managed by the moderators, and if the topic starter wants the thread "cleaned up" they can always request it.

The feature seems to have been rarely used on the other forum, not sure whether that's because members aren't aware they have the power or that they choose not to use it.

That's prettuy much my thinking on the subject

Let moderators do what mods have done on forums for the last 20 years....moderate and clean up and help along

Look at the wheel layout for all 3 methods of PB

HIGH/LOW - the wheel is HLHLHL but with a change where you get two of the same then reverts to LHLHLH

EVEN/ODD - the wheel is EEOOEEOOEEOO

RED/BLACK - the wheel is a uniform RBRBRBRBRBRB the whole way

I think this is a factor in leaving out R/B betting and focusing on the other two methods where you have a different uniformity on the wheel

Quote from: esoito on November 27, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
"Plz kick me in the nads if I ever say Im playin there again lol "



Mate, rather than a swift kick I've a MUCH better idea.

How about you mail them to Victor as a token, a guarantee of your sincerity?

They then become a non-refundable deposit should your ever go back to BVNZ.

See? A much better idea! 

This would have to be played on RNG or someone with loads of time, for 100 spins. over an hour and a half there in spin time no probs.

In a nutshell what are you betting? For or against or what? I'll try to give a better look when I get time.

Did you have a 20 times total loss as your bankroll?

PB a loss is 7 units so you should have a 140 (units being played) BR to play the units you were playin. A pile of losses in a row can get you so you need 20 times a loss to keep the head straight and not chase a loss

Being only fairly technically minded compared against Victor, but I can see decent work there....intelligent and thoughtful programming

Quote from: Ralph on November 24, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
Pb how it works or not, I do not want to take up here, but I use to win that small faster. Using a bet real and not wait for 60 spins.
I can not image how it will make any profit, may be profit but according to what I have seen it takes very long time. Even if it gives a plus how much?  My personal view is it will not working, but I have not tested it deep at all I have not even  done any test. I think waiting, and waiting for a "trigger" is good in that sense you do not risk any at most of the spins.  I test some of this kind of  methods, and they may work or not.  If you got the numbers which suit it, that's depend of if you are lucky to get it. I do not think there are any sure ways, you got to have some luck. There are better or worse ways, so using a method  that's to do. How can any like to spend a month to get a few, is such method ever useful?

With a win loss ratio of 10:1 roughly...you grind out 2 and 3 units a week. The grind is the key, grind out 10 units a month playing safe and when those units are worth £20 each then you don't have to worry about slow play.