Quote from: bcboilermaker on November 17, 2012, 03:06:31 PM
these are basically my staking plan is US dollars. playing only against E/O H/L  playing against whatever group forms first


round one ..... 2,4,8 if i win game is done


round two ..... 40,80,160 I bet this round only after a loss on round one


I use two separate BR, for each round.

That is a MASSIVE jump and one I wouldn't do myself. Perhaps a 15, 30, 60 would give you full recovery plus 1 so you don't lose. Double losses occur and to lose 280 alone as a 2nd bet would take ages to recover in the first step you do.

Quote from: Trebor on November 16, 2012, 09:06:51 PM
Update as of now.


Total games played  72


Total games won      63


Total games lost        9


Strike rate                 7/1


Double losses            0


Treble losses             0


Longest winning streak    19




Yes, I've clawed my way back to break even in only one week.


Onwards and upwards.


Trebor

An honest opinion of mine...if I may?

If that is 1 weeks games i.e. 7 days...then I think 10 games a day is slightly pushing it.  To get win streaks above 7:1 play less and build that BR up to a higher level before using higher unit stakes for less games. You can still get the same amount of money but you play less and have longer win streaks to bring the BR growth above the 7:1 ratio you have now.

Perhaps consider making a monthly plan?

120 games a month @ 4 games a day. A game is either a 1 unit win or a total loss. Going on a win loss ratio of 1:10/11 (from experience this isn't too far off the right one for the amount of games played each month) you can therefore assume you will get 110 wins and 10 losses. That is total loss of 70 from the units won...110...gives you 40 units profit for the month.

40 units for the Speramus trials is 40x£2= £80....

Imagine you did this religiously 4 games a day for a month....for 6 months.

That is £480 PLUS then add your starting bankroll and you're over £500.

That 500 gives you the cushion to then bet larger chip values...NOT larger amounts of chips...important distinction there! You could be betting £5 chips then

if you take the 40 units won each month as shown above....but this time multiply it by £5 value....that's £200 grinded out month in ...month out.

Personally, for me, the moral of the Pattern Breaker tale is ......LESS(games)...IS MORE (money) 

LONG term view of the game here folks...LONG TERM

Quote from: JohnLegend on November 16, 2012, 09:31:21 PM
Trebor you should consider using my three level staking plan. To get you into profit faster and keep you there. So

even if your strikerate doesn't go to double figures overall you will still show a longterm profit.

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LEVEL 1   1--2--4
LEVEL 2   2--4--8----YOUR STANDARD LEVEL
LEVEL 3   6--12--24

So you always start at level two. You stay there for 4 consecutive wins 8 units. Then drop to level one and stay there unitl you LOSE. IMMEDIATELY after that loss. You raise to level 3 for ONE GAME. Then drop back to level two and try and win another 4 games in a row then back to level 1 again.

pattern breaker money management thread here. If you play PB then read this... http://betselection.cc/mixed/pattern-4-money-management/msg850/#new

Itt's not pattern 4, just a typo from me in the title

.....aye that's pretty much it in a nutshell 

I play live with Speramus groups rules so it's only a max of 4 units a day on live wheel. Trying for more than 4 units in one day is too much of my time so I play it when I can. With the grinding results the BR will grow solidly. By Easter I'm hoping it'll be up near £800 with the solid BR in place to bet higher chips. It'll take me longer than playing 20 games a day like John, but by playing so infrequently I'm expecting to get a few decent win streaks going to grind out steady single unit wins until the BR is well up there.

Quote from: Koolkat on November 16, 2012, 07:43:17 PM
Not sure if this is the right place to post but I must say this forum is a breath of fresh air compared to Roulette CC, For the past 3 days I have tried to log out of Roulette CC it won't allow me!!
Anyway I feel much  more comfortable here as I feel I am amongst friends that would only advise and not criticise. Thank you SUBBY for giving me this Opportunity   You never know I may get the guts to come up with a system and post. 

Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 16, 2012, 05:32:12 PM
snubby

Again, I find this most interesting.  Do you attribute it to the r/b layout on the wheel?  Or do you attribute it to anything at all?  If that held over thousands of spins, there would have to be a reason, don't you think?

Sam

If you look on the wheel the red black spacing is alternate RBRBRBRBRBRBRBR etc...wheras the EVEN ODD and HIGH LOW are different.

O/E is OOEEOOEEOOEE etc...
H/L is marginally more different from R/B spacing

I think the uniform spacing of R/B is just too easy for random to get you. Just an opinion

I've noticed R/B bets losing by a good 10% more than the other 2 types (O/E and H/L)

That's why Speramus decided to ignore the R/B in our playing rules.

How are you thinking of playing then?

are you going to work out the units for 2.5% of £200( £5)  and bet it for a 1 unit win....then take a 2.5% of £205 and bet it etc?

It's almost the weekend, what are you lot up to then?

I personally am nervous as it is my daughters test in school. In Northern Ireland they have what is called the 11+ test. Where 11 year olds take a test to see what school they will go to after primary school.

She is due to sit that on Saturday morning so nerves all round. Apart from that I'll not be thinking about much else.

Quote from: JohnLegend on November 15, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Yes Tarantino, shows what a lovely man he is. But I want to move on now and do this thing for next year.
Well I am giving you an example there points can be worth whatever you can afford up to the house limit. I use £5 points
live. In small at the moment on BV. But next year I will be betting euros when I top it up to 200 once the original challenge
is over. It will be time to take it to the next level.. If you have a spare half hour get a a calculator with % on it. And add 2.5% to 200 euro in compounded form 200 times.
And you will get an idea of what I am going to do next year. 

£27712.78 

Your method will let random hit you roughly once every 8 attempts if you have just less than a 50% chance each time...times 3 (for the line) = random can get you.

With patience...and that REALLY is the key, build up your bankroll over months until your units are £10 a time and even if you clear 20 units a month that is £200...imagine betting £50 as 1 unit at a time = HUGE money

Don't rush it, the table will still be there in 9 months time when you can assault it with £50 unit bets and not £1 unit bets. Just my 2 cents 

Speramus rules in place and no changes for us, I'm happy to grind out over 6-9 months 

If you are using Ophis tracker...ALWAYS...reset the tracker using the

<>
BUTTON


To reset and using the marquee on screen/at casino...use that to give you a 10-15 number head start with a CLEAN tracker.

After a 1 unit win...always clear your numbers and start again

You should really be playing for 1 unit then log out and come back again later on for 3-5 games per day MAX...don't let random catch up with you by over playing each day 

Tracker will tell you what to bet like this window....It's telling you to bet 1 unit on LOW