I want to comment on something curious that I was asked by one member: How long does a person have to be in these forums to go to the casino? And the truth is that it is not that way. First you go to the casino. Learn the game inside out, Mingle with other players, sweat, live the battle and then with this basic knowledge, and why not some romps, investigate more. Learn from a good book. Then finally go to the forums for a while. to discuss.

The battle arena is not in the forum, but it is in the casino.

I have learned many things THROUGH the whack and pain. Other times I learned the most by being next to experienced players. Interestingly not systems. In truth one does not speak of systems with other players in the casino . it is very rare. but sometimes a simple remark made by someone with more experience and maybe a drink, opens your understanding if it is sufficiently evident to be remembered at home. More than one time I have been talking late night person to person with some player placing bets with pure chit-chat and sometimes throws a pearl. Even some good advice from another old player who is a rather hopeless loser . I can not stop thinking about his words. I am one who believes that the most qualified to tell you how to deal with the effects of cigarette smoking is the chain smoker, not the trainer at the gym, because he lives in smoker's own flesh and must deal with it.

I learned the hard way not to put all in one set. I learned to go home with something in the pocket. I learned that long series can come against you, and I learned painfully that many times mathematical probability is not much use in the casino. Next to the table the odds seem to go on vacation. What matters is what comes out of the play. What a mathematician says that must work for the casino, for a real player is best used only as a guide and the player need to know when not to take that into account and when you should better check out, when you need to open your eyes to what is actually going on.

And no one knows what is coming unless you are next to the gaming table. Greetings.

American Roulette. You can play with a double-street and the other numbers straight. The double-street wins +1. The straight bet wins +31.

You can use it to make a strategy based on the wheel. The numbers are separated by two or three pockets.

- 1 through 6 and numbers 8, 10, 20 and 26
- 4 through 9 and numbers 10, 13, 14 and 15
- 10 through 15 and numbers 16, 17, 18 and 28
- 13 through 18 and numbers 11, 12, 27 and 28
- 19 through 24 and numbers 1, 2, 4 and 26
- 28 through 33 and numbers 00, 22, 24 and 35
- 31 through 36 and numbers 0, 00, 29 and 30

Please a tracker for Kimo Li's Corner Matrix:

http://betselection.cc/cornerquad-5/kimo-li's-corner-matrix/

Thank you.

There is an intriguing question that is revealed in the experiences shared in these forums. A person claims that he has a good system which can be winning to him for years on average. Another person claims that he used the same system and quickly exploded in his face. Then each person can have an estimate of success or failure? The system expired fastest for a person than another? And no matter what he does that system is over for him forever again.

If this is so, then how could you take advantage of this? You could raise money with the players which has systems that work for them? While they work of course.

Maybe another technique is to introduce the system to people absolutely new in the casino game and partnering with them as their beginner's luck lasts.

If the system will explode to him then time to find another victim. pardon, a new rookie partner.

Since it seems that nobody is willing to give their programming knowledge to the forum, I myself am going to start a course with what little I know of basic256 in my blog. Focused on the practical part.

The system I propose to do to start the course is "The Hidden or Secret Dozen". selected for its simplicity as explained in this thread:

http://betselection.cc/members'-software/roulette-key-gold-the-hidden-secret-or-dozen/msg30914/

Basic256 can be downloaded from the main website: http://www.basic256.org/index_en

The official manual can be obtained by visiting the page: http://doc.basic256.org/doku.php

Let's see where this takes us. I am nobody in the world of programming but I am willing to publish what I know and what I learn along the way. The goal is to learn and share. No monetary cost at all.

My prediction is that in the end all roulette programs will be free because people do not like paying. With people who are stingy the only programmers that will prevail will be the free ones. Those who simply want to learn and share for whom the mere use of their program by others is payment enough.

The pattern I see is always the programmers end up disappointed. Tiago, automatedbots, rjeaton, and all the others who are gone by now from the past and recent present. Embracing this idea based on facts it is better if new programmers do not aspire compensation to be able to last active in the community.

It is more productive to give the program away to be used and not be disappointed by sales in my opinion. I mean it to be just like this for me. If I knew deep programming I would be giving away my applications to everybody without asking for money.

http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/who-gives-a-free-programming-course/

My idea behind the free course thread is that the forum can start to form programmers who are willing to give away their work for all of us at no cost. If we learn for free we will be more motivated to give the programs for free as a programming exercise in view of sharing the programs unselfishly.

What do you think of my free programs prediction? Do you think my idea to not fall into the mistakes of the past that keep developers out can be possible to make?

It is the only possible solution to the conflict of the inevitable loss of programmer talent over time. If nothing is expected people will not be disappointed and we will enjoy new programmers for a long time.  Better changing the focus and mindset to this. Ultimately we will all benefit from more benefit.

Rules:

Record 60 spins.

Look for a group of minimum four numbers next to each other hit two or more times.

Numbers must be bordered on either side by numbers hit only once.

Qualifying group must include minimum one number with 3 or more hits.

No more than two qualifying groups.

6 or 7 numbers need a minimum of 3 numbers with 3 or more hits to be qualified.

8 or 9 numbers need a minimum of 4 numbers with 3 or more hits to be qualified.

Betting:

Bet the qualified groups x 30 times.

Remarks:

It is recommended to monitor at least 4 wheels to maximize the chance to qualify one after 60 spins.

Never bet more than 30 spins.

100 units for bank. 100 units backup.

When you double the bankroll you must double the value of the unit.

If the bank lowers the unit lowers back too.

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Friends, in view of the presence of programmers in the forum I wondered if anyone may give a programming course. It would be a free course as we know people do not pay. Less if they do not even know if they will succeed in completing it.

I wonder if there may be any programmer willing to teach programming techniques applied to gambling. Something to kill time as a secondary nonprofit activity. Perhaps possible if every developer donates a bit of time to the free course? Please at least say something about the feasibility of this idea. Thank you.

What happened to the Betsoftware? It lacked development but I hoped it would not be abandoned. Gradual improvements could increase the software value.

Seriously. Do not discontinue it. Better to put it as a long term goal for the forum. When the program is a true contender users will buy it. After programming is complete and the Betsoftware has a bot, a clicker and new systems can be added by the users as in RX I foresee much success.

Users can feel more motivated to contribute to the forum without donating by purchasing the program. If it can match the features of the competition I would prefer to buy it and help this forum. But the required features have to be there.

Well, the webpage has not been discontinued but the development does not seem to have improved at all. Please keep us informed of the status. To have an official software to help the forum is strongly recommended. Thank you.

Do not know if there is a specific limit to the requests but I suggest that a 6x6 tracker of matrix 1-36 featuring a reset button is made. The numbers are marked as they come out. when the reset button is pressed all numbers are unmarked. This is to use with the Four phases system published by Dane.

If the tracker could identify the phases A, B, C to bet would be far better. Thank you.

If I know a programming language can I add functionality to the program? I would use Basic256 to do it. Is there any introductory tutorial available? thank you.

http://betselection.cc/double-street-6/trigger-for-ds/

Thus the simple strategy trigger=
1]"only 4ds hit in six spins",

At 5th spin, only 4ds hit, then bet the 4ds.

2] "only 3 ds hit in 6spins",

At 5th spin, only 3ds hit, then bet the OTHER
3ds that not being hit.

3]"only 2ds hit in 6 spins",


At 5th spin, only 2ds hit, then bet the OTHER
4ds that not being hit.

4] "only 1ds hit in 6 spins''
At 5th spin, only 1ds hit, then bet the OTHER
5ds that not being hit.


5] "only 5 ds in 6spins
At 5th spin, only 5ds hit, then bet the 
5ds that   being hit.

ZERO kills.

Well first to highlight the obvious. As it stands now software lacks programming to be a contender. But there is confidence that it will improve or I would not be writing this here.

Now my little help is to provide suggestions to make the program better. The first one that I will propose is the Thanos system. Simple Lw generator. We all know that it is like any bet but it would be interesting to see how the sessions are usually developed without having to do the marking by hand. That is all.

http://betselection.cc/wannawin's-library/thanos-system/

$ 5.00 bet on 0/00/1/2/3 basket
$ 5.00 on DS 7-12
$ 5.00 on DS 25-30
$ 1.00 on numbers 4, 5, 16, 17, 32, 33.

Begin when your numbers have not appeared for two hands.

Negative progression: 1, 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 16, 32

Reset on hit.

Possible improvement: DS 1-6 + $ 2 on split. 0/00

System author: Thanos

Friends, I also wish that we all have a directory of software for systems, preferably free. Although it is not mandatory. If you know a program for any system please place the system and the program in this thread.

All are welcome. Thank you.

http://www3.nd.edu/~carecob/April2011Conference/SavageIWM11MarApr_MonteCarlo.pdf

Turbogenius site is already frozen. http://www.freewebs.com/turbogenius/

We have to save the best methods from gamblersglen.com archives.
Please suggest what you consider are the best threads of systems within gamblersglen archives. I will do my best to preserve its method in my new section. Thank you.

http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi

First of all my mathematical training is nothing. I am trying to get these relationship tables properly for a practical system considering RB series in roulette.
If I will monitor series of 4 there are 16 possibilities:

BBBB
BBBR
BBRR
BBRB
BRRR
BRRB
BRBB
BRBR

RRRR
RRRB
RRBB
RRBR
RBBB
RBBR
RBRR
RBRB

Now comes my question: it is assumed that all spins are checked. not 4 in 4 spins but after every spin recent patterns of four are evaluated so I must consider all possibilities. Right?
For a series of 4 to be labeled a sleeper I must consider 16 spins monitoring for the full 16 combinations that can go in each of the sets.
Am I doing the calculations right so far for continuous play? A pattern of four should be called sleeper only if it goes over 16 spins without showing.

Friends, after a long series of something strange like a long series of single color by the law of attraction another long series of a single color happens?  I guess it is like in hot and cold numbers. After a sleeper returns it takes up with drive to balance out.

Accounting for the many RB patterns you can play this? Without much need to wait for something particular you could play the RB sequence that just came out. Only the condition to be a sleeper RB sequence returning. Somebody does this already? Thanks.

Please restore my blog "wannawin" from scratch to develop a compilation of systems where people can give their opinions and also their tweaks in an orderly fashion. A center of knowledge to capture methods with the respective wisdom that we have acquired over the years. Maybe I might become the next proofreaders.

Why a program is not made with a large database with all betting patterns to play? it would be difficult to find a winning player to tell all patterns also telling when to place each bet. but then after that person says it all a programmer can patiently make the program so ​​no extra further efforts are made. It is worth if you ask me.

former first VLS forum administrator has returned to betforum. what is the status of Addonai: friend or foe?

Forgive the question but is this forum living off the air now? Before there were constant fund raisers to make ends meet. Now even with accusations of greed overtly made I do not remember to have seen any button in the forum, not even a button for $ 1. There is no concern about the fate of the forum website now? Something new occurred? WHAT HAPPENED??

Sorry if this topic has already been addressed or it is a well known secret or a taboo which should not be treated. if so I am not aware. Sorry.
Please address the issue. This website is a haven for good discussion . It would be very disappointing in case that after everything the site closed because of the basics.

QuoteIf you feel my comments here are unfair and my actions inappropriate feel free to publish this material and your response on the Forum. As far as I am concerned this would further add to my claim for defamation.

Obviously XXVV is not making active efforts to claim for his own defamation so the materials referred are those where the alleged defamation takes place.

It might look ambiguous on first read but when applying even a little bit of logic the referred material shows clear.

Having cleared this please let us all return to productivity.

Read XXVV impressions and draw your own conclusions:

http://betselection.cc/xxvv-studio/focus-on-work-in-this-forum/msg29271/#msg29271