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#182
Off-topic / Re: Re: Greg Fletcher
September 24, 2014, 03:35:04 PM
I can still see the free PDF on google. I think that it has to do with a direct link can not be placed. It is not the same: Go to the town square there can be lemons. It is s not prohibited to link to any page of searches because it is out of the forum and not the blame of the owner . but the direct link is prohibited material. I believe it has to do with it . so the forum is protected? I have learned that my own google links remain.
#183
Gambling Philosophy / Re: DEVIATION or BALANCE?
September 20, 2014, 02:19:24 AMQuote from: greenguy on September 20, 2014, 01:35:31 AMI play for neither.This approach is quite rare in itself. 99% of the systems play one or the other. To not play this way feels a little lacking in context. I guess that is intuition. No context is needed . just put the bet where it is believed to come out.
I almost always encounter events that are playing nearby. temporary deviations in the game or as some call it: the trend.
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on September 20, 2014, 01:53:56 AM
I don't even play Roulette, so the mention of wheel spins mean nothing to me
Fortunately that well learn you never forget. With respect to both roulette and baccarat: The other day I asked the question of whether it is a good to play balance in the short term. No millions of sets as the casino casino but in the small sessions we played.
You said the reasons for using deviations. Can you tell us if there is any reason to risk playing some cards for a little balance? Or you would never touch a balance trigger? Thank you very much.
#184
General Discussion / Re: What does it take to be the very last forum we'll ever need?
September 19, 2014, 06:27:35 PMQuote from: Rolex-Watch on September 19, 2014, 12:16:09 PMI've had it playing Roulette at Sky City, which is why I gave up the game for Baccarat, to get away from dealer influenced outcomesAn indiscreet question: You stopped playing roulette as a winner or changed the game of roulette for baccarat because you could not win roulette? Or you can win both?
If we dismiss the dealer would you say that with deep study a player can win both games or only baccarat is beatable? many thanks.
#185
Wannawin's Library / Two times an even chance change system
September 19, 2014, 04:11:46 PM
This system is quite simple but you should know when to pause. The system goes like this:
* Zeros are ignored.
* Enter the game betting the last color out. If you win the bet stays. If you lose resist one more.
* After you lose twice with the chosen color you switch.
* Same rule for the new side. It changes when the other side comes out twice.
* The exception for pause is after losing two consecutive changes. RRBB or BBRR. You wait until the cycle is broken. It is not to lose it all to the series of two. They make the most damage to the system when played every spin.
* Progression: +1 on a loss -1 on a win.
* Progression is reset when a profit is made . however small.
Explained with color but you can actually do with any other even chance. Greetings.
* Zeros are ignored.
* Enter the game betting the last color out. If you win the bet stays. If you lose resist one more.
* After you lose twice with the chosen color you switch.
* Same rule for the new side. It changes when the other side comes out twice.
* The exception for pause is after losing two consecutive changes. RRBB or BBRR. You wait until the cycle is broken. It is not to lose it all to the series of two. They make the most damage to the system when played every spin.
* Progression: +1 on a loss -1 on a win.
* Progression is reset when a profit is made . however small.
Explained with color but you can actually do with any other even chance. Greetings.
#186
Gambling Philosophy / DEVIATION or BALANCE?
September 19, 2014, 03:47:54 PM
Look at these definitions (by winmaxx)
In my experience I chiefly play deviations games but sometimes I feel that things will balance and I have risked a little off the record for balance . but overall I play deviations much more.
Please share which one do you use most in your personal game. And why.
QuoteDEVIATION (Ecart):
a deviation is the unequal frequency between two opposite chances in a section of a permanence. For example : if in the last twenty spins 14 red and 6 black numbers came out we have an Ecart on red.
BALANCE (Equilibrium):
the equilibrium of two opposite chances in a section of a permanence. For example 10 red and 10 black numbers within the last twenty spins.
In my experience I chiefly play deviations games but sometimes I feel that things will balance and I have risked a little off the record for balance . but overall I play deviations much more.
Please share which one do you use most in your personal game. And why.
#187
General Discussion / Re: What does it take to be the very last forum we'll ever need?
September 19, 2014, 03:08:59 PMQuoteHere's some of what is most evident:What is most apparent to me is that the first thing is to exist. Donations buttons come and go when they should be published at all times. If I am feeling generous or appreciative at some point I can not give: Fail.
In my opinion first fix the perception out there that when it approaches the end of the month it will close because nobody gave anything. Once that it is fixed then yes worry about what happens with emoticons in messages.
First worry about being a homeowner before worrying about the furnishings. Greetings.
#188
Math & Statistics / Re: The Punter's Revenge
September 18, 2014, 02:22:44 PMQuote from: Albalaha on September 18, 2014, 03:59:23 AMI feel the same. Atleast someone alike. I consider Bayes to be one of the most reasonable person on any forum. He was like a simplified encyclopedia on gambling related mathematics.
There are quite a few matches. Just look at the posts:
http://betselection.cc/profile/?area=showposts;u=796
This same thread was opened by Bayes. Slacker comes to re-open Bayes topics, writes just like Bayes . He is a mathematician, same as Bayes and opens a new section to give continuation to the topics originally to be published in Bayes blog.
Quote from: Slacker on September 14, 2014, 12:43:16 PMyou might remember that I had started a blog on various topics in probability.I bet this is an open secret among seasoned members. Always the ordinary citizen is the last to know. Well, I am happy as it seems the same person. I also think he is a very good publisher and we will learn from his simplified teachings. It is a gift that of simplify. Among the best we can get from a mathematical member.
#189
General Discussion / Re: Moderators
September 18, 2014, 01:47:53 PMQuote from: Leapyfrog on September 18, 2014, 09:24:03 AMA moderated community is a nicer place to be.In my option moderation is a fine line you should know how to bear. I personally have no problem with the overall moderation, maybe more with some of the same members moderation of the forum. By the way I just made a suggestion that the forum returns removed messages to users. perhaps by private message. Knowing the reason for the deletion can be a great plus too.
I agree good moderation makes a good forum. Nor let them do whatever they please, nor restrict the most of everything said for very small reasons. That is where the rub is. Also when there is abuse the member should be able to have the right to speak to be rectified. Fortunately here so far has been positive balance overall. Hopefully they keep it up. Some more new options regarding forum moderation and it bodes well for the times to come in this regard.
Quote from: greenguy on September 18, 2014, 12:37:39 PM
If I or anyone else had posted, "the moderators here are assholes and full of nonsense", the post would not last 5 minutes, and I would be muted at least, and possibly banned. But leapyfrog gets more of a pat on the back, and a here, here, bravo, well said and all that!
Maybe it is because of the post context? No one is calling anyone and abusing a forum member. It is just an Internet comic . This is what I mean by a small reason. To remove the comic would be lame too. Perhaps what they have to do is to edit the bad words in paint and then place the edited comic by modification of the original post. More work. What a load of situations to work without pay or thanks. No wonder nobody wants the position. You really have to appreciate who does it.- Greetings.
#190
Math & Statistics / Re: The Punter's Revenge
September 17, 2014, 07:26:40 PMQuote from: Sputnik on September 17, 2014, 10:33:49 AMI can email him again and see if we can open up a new gambling forum.
Oh no, not another forum more. To register again. All to talk low of the previous forum. To create sects and arouse old quarrels. Other forum members are traitors. Those who remain in the other forum they are enemies. The administrator of the old forum is the devil that sells systems or because advocates computers, or calls for donations, or because because ... whatever then. If you are not with the new is against all. Not again. Give us a time of truce.
Can not we just enjoy the current moment where there is an air of harmony and integration? Among the current forums.
Reading the posts is practically given that Slacker is Bayes. So he has been with us for some time. Make sure first and do not stir the pot just to do it. What matters is not the usernames but the people. Better to leave this small community quiet at near Christmas time. Try next year if things are ruined by then. Right now is not the time.
Greetings.
#191
Gambling Philosophy / Advice given by a wiser player
September 15, 2014, 10:05:46 PM
Thanks friend. Quotes:
"Just a brief hint. During a gambling session avoid re-betting the net winnings. A separate stack for those winnings will prevent you from giving it all back.
If you have reached the loss limit of your bankroll you still have the winnings of that particular session to soften the blow.
99% of the people are only interested in systems to test the living day-lights out of them.
They don't realize that losing less is the key to come out ahead.
A game based on luck cannot nor ever will be harnessed by any means.
We have to work on all cylinders not to lose or come out slightly ahead."
Monday 11:37 AM EDST
"Just a brief hint. During a gambling session avoid re-betting the net winnings. A separate stack for those winnings will prevent you from giving it all back.
If you have reached the loss limit of your bankroll you still have the winnings of that particular session to soften the blow.
99% of the people are only interested in systems to test the living day-lights out of them.
They don't realize that losing less is the key to come out ahead.
A game based on luck cannot nor ever will be harnessed by any means.
We have to work on all cylinders not to lose or come out slightly ahead."
Monday 11:37 AM EDST
#192
General Discussion / Re: First you go to the casino.
September 15, 2014, 07:46:15 PMQuote from: NathanDetroit on September 15, 2014, 06:27:37 PM
Reading the forum posts of all those " Winnahs one gets the impression that the casinos world wide are down to their last chandelier.
N.D.
I should not say such comments if there were a little more openness about the two realities.
The truth is that the game is won and lost, as in all .I am a winnah at moments, and at other times an irreparable lossah. That is when I pause. What I do not do is pretend that I never lost, but take the opportunity to freshen up. The world is more than the four walls of a casino. Sometimes it is easy to get lost in the dungeon or castle of the game. It is better when you do not have your head in a good place to go a bit out to the gardens. The wheel will always be there.
#193
General Discussion / Re: First you go to the casino.
September 14, 2014, 10:15:37 PMQuote from: split-monster on September 14, 2014, 08:55:13 PMAn interesting post wannawin, to be honest, I do not see many system players at the Casino. By systems, I probably mean the type of systems we read about or discuss on here.
Any player who really steps on a casino knows that the system players are a tiny minority compared to the rest of the gamblers everyday. It is rare to find a player with booklets, sheets for calculation and related paraphernalia in almost all the casinos I visited. What you see are addicted players who hardly stop playing a set. Those who leave the table without chips because they will not leave while they have supplies up to the last chip . In addition to the players who perhaps accustomed to losing put the chips like robots without seeming to care. Only on the internet is that there are so many "system players" together. And do not make me start talking about the amount of online winners. It seems that there are very few losers on these forums, in contrast to the reality of the casino floor. So in truth you have to take all these comments posted in the forums with a grain of salt.
One of the good books I recommended before and recommend it now: http://betselection.cc/gambling-library/monte-carlo-anecdotes-and-systems-of-play-(1910)/
It should be required reading. You will learn more from that book than reading many comments online. Greetings.
#194
General Discussion / First you go to the casino.
September 14, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
I want to comment on something curious that I was asked by one member: How long does a person have to be in these forums to go to the casino? And the truth is that it is not that way. First you go to the casino. Learn the game inside out, Mingle with other players, sweat, live the battle and then with this basic knowledge, and why not some romps, investigate more. Learn from a good book. Then finally go to the forums for a while. to discuss.
The battle arena is not in the forum, but it is in the casino.
I have learned many things THROUGH the whack and pain. Other times I learned the most by being next to experienced players. Interestingly not systems. In truth one does not speak of systems with other players in the casino . it is very rare. but sometimes a simple remark made by someone with more experience and maybe a drink, opens your understanding if it is sufficiently evident to be remembered at home. More than one time I have been talking late night person to person with some player placing bets with pure chit-chat and sometimes throws a pearl. Even some good advice from another old player who is a rather hopeless loser . I can not stop thinking about his words. I am one who believes that the most qualified to tell you how to deal with the effects of cigarette smoking is the chain smoker, not the trainer at the gym, because he lives in smoker's own flesh and must deal with it.
I learned the hard way not to put all in one set. I learned to go home with something in the pocket. I learned that long series can come against you, and I learned painfully that many times mathematical probability is not much use in the casino. Next to the table the odds seem to go on vacation. What matters is what comes out of the play. What a mathematician says that must work for the casino, for a real player is best used only as a guide and the player need to know when not to take that into account and when you should better check out, when you need to open your eyes to what is actually going on.
And no one knows what is coming unless you are next to the gaming table. Greetings.
The battle arena is not in the forum, but it is in the casino.
I have learned many things THROUGH the whack and pain. Other times I learned the most by being next to experienced players. Interestingly not systems. In truth one does not speak of systems with other players in the casino . it is very rare. but sometimes a simple remark made by someone with more experience and maybe a drink, opens your understanding if it is sufficiently evident to be remembered at home. More than one time I have been talking late night person to person with some player placing bets with pure chit-chat and sometimes throws a pearl. Even some good advice from another old player who is a rather hopeless loser . I can not stop thinking about his words. I am one who believes that the most qualified to tell you how to deal with the effects of cigarette smoking is the chain smoker, not the trainer at the gym, because he lives in smoker's own flesh and must deal with it.
I learned the hard way not to put all in one set. I learned to go home with something in the pocket. I learned that long series can come against you, and I learned painfully that many times mathematical probability is not much use in the casino. Next to the table the odds seem to go on vacation. What matters is what comes out of the play. What a mathematician says that must work for the casino, for a real player is best used only as a guide and the player need to know when not to take that into account and when you should better check out, when you need to open your eyes to what is actually going on.
And no one knows what is coming unless you are next to the gaming table. Greetings.
#195
Wannawin's Library / Six Pack Plus Wheel Bet
September 13, 2014, 09:07:10 PM
American Roulette. You can play with a double-street and the other numbers straight. The double-street wins +1. The straight bet wins +31.
You can use it to make a strategy based on the wheel. The numbers are separated by two or three pockets.
- 1 through 6 and numbers 8, 10, 20 and 26
- 4 through 9 and numbers 10, 13, 14 and 15
- 10 through 15 and numbers 16, 17, 18 and 28
- 13 through 18 and numbers 11, 12, 27 and 28
- 19 through 24 and numbers 1, 2, 4 and 26
- 28 through 33 and numbers 00, 22, 24 and 35
- 31 through 36 and numbers 0, 00, 29 and 30
You can use it to make a strategy based on the wheel. The numbers are separated by two or three pockets.
- 1 through 6 and numbers 8, 10, 20 and 26
- 4 through 9 and numbers 10, 13, 14 and 15
- 10 through 15 and numbers 16, 17, 18 and 28
- 13 through 18 and numbers 11, 12, 27 and 28
- 19 through 24 and numbers 1, 2, 4 and 26
- 28 through 33 and numbers 00, 22, 24 and 35
- 31 through 36 and numbers 0, 00, 29 and 30