Thanks for the link KFB!

It's an interesting list of course, especially for black jack and video poker players.
I agree about the South Point, probably the most crowded Vegas casino at any hour of any day for a reason.

As baccarat player, I would mention which casinos offer commission and no commission games, but more importantly what's the average action at the tables.
Normally the baccarat action in US outside Vegas is good or very good. For obvious reasons it's not the case for Vegas casinos.

It's really sad to play alone or with just another player or asking too many times for "free hands", especially for low frequency bettors.

This is my list based upon the baccarat average action (number of players) in Vegas casinos (no downtown casinos are considered here).

Good action

- Gold Coast
- Palms

Medium action

- Aria
- Palace Station
- Bellagio
- Venetian
- Durango
- Paris
- Stratosphere
- Red Rock
- South Point
- Rio
- Orleans
- Caesars Palace
- Rampart


Low action

- Wynn
- Encore
- The Palazzo
- Fontaineblue
- Resorts World
- Cosmopolitan
- MGM Grand
- MGM Park
- Treasure Island
- PH
- Boulder Station
- Mandalay Bay
- others

Not coincidentally the two most crowded casinos are close to Vegas Chinatown: you'll be surprised to see several tables open (and full of players, especially at Gold Coast) in a unsuspected Monday morning. A thing happening only at Macau.

A more technical thing (considered worthless by "experts" but not by us) is how the shoes are shuffled. In Vegas shoes are not manually shuffled so either a machine do the job or preordered shuffled decks are utilized.
Since most players like to peek at the cards, more and more preordered shuffled shoes are dealt in Vegas.

Then there are several additional factors to award a "best baccarat tables in Vegas" prize.
Mostly are related to min/max betting limits, HE, general atmosphere, propensity to deal many free hands or dealing a new shoe before the end of it, then average skills and 'composure' of the other players (generally speaking there are more good local players than good tourist players). Etc.

From a strict HE point of view, the best Vegas baccarat casino ever was (or still is, we don't know) the "D" in downtown where Banker winning bets were burdened by a mere 4% vig.
Besides of a short lived experiment made at Sahara casino in the 80s, where there wasn't no commission at all at B winning bets (lol), by far "D" casino offered the best baccarat tables in the history of this game.

as.

Hi KFB! Thanks for your interesting reply.

Can you elaborate this passage of yours?

Sometimes(not always) we may win FIRST (due to skill or luck). Then have the option to:Press to our win, regress to our win, set aside that wager for a perceived better entry, press higher,...etc all the while compounding our initial base unit.


Thanks in advance.

Take care.

as.

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Thx Asym for your response.

"...What I would think is that, generally speaking, a positive progression will concede to the house those (albeit relatively rare) overalternating WL sequences where any win is not properly balanced by the following loss, meaning that in any case in order to win we need some winning clusters to show up..."

    My advocacy for a posprogression is that we will see the same streaks regardless the amount of our wager(or if we are calling our wager a posprogression, Flat, or negpro).
I think most will agree we often go through a bac shoe with perpetual exchanges of streaks(e.g., WL WWLL LLWW LWLW WWWW LLLL,...ETC). Sometimes(not always) we may win FIRST (due to skill or luck). Then have the option to:Press to our win, regress to our win, set aside that wager for a perceived better entry, press higher,...etc all the while compounding our initial base unit.

As you mention we obviously must get some of our wins in clusters(i.e., winning events in-a-row). Which I think gives us an additional  opportunity vs only the option of winning more bet selections than losing

*I play sessions sometimes where I do not deserve to win(e.g., W=8 and L=11). Yet I may have been fortunate to put 3-4 Wins in-a-row in a posprogression, and still leave the shoe with a net profit.


Continued Success,

Thx ADulay and Albalaha for your responses.

Albalaha above: "..RNG could also be real and random and even a live wheel could be made to cheat...."

I agree.

AD above: "..We never play on ANY of the RNG table games.  Never.

  The few of us who use the online world to play baccarat only use LIVE DEALERS that we can personally verify by testing that we're getting a fair game (as such that it is)...."

    How did you verify u were getting a fair game? Just curious as obviously if they are live dealers you are receiving the same game as we would receive in a B&M cas.


My concern on RNG(i.e., non live-dealer games)  is that "what I read from online players" is that even though the overall results may fall within whatever Standard Deviation one feels is fair. The casino RNG could easily be designed to be reactive and take ones very large wager(s) at the most inopportune time,...etc. Yet still present overall outcomes within statistical expectation.

So Im glad you all are only playing with live dealers.

Fortunately(or unfortunately) I live in an area with well over 100 B&M casinos within a 5min to 180min drive. Fortunately(or unfortunately) my state doesn't allow one to register an *online gambling account. The last couple days I have been snowed in so it would have been convenient to play from home. Maybe it's a good thing as I wouldn't get a lot done around the house if I could also game from home on sat/sun, lol.

*what's crazy about my state not allowing one to register for online gaming: The fact that online Sportsbetting and Horse racing apps are indeed legal.
I don't do either mainly due to not having studied either or much desire for developing expertise in Non-Bac games. Im still trying to conquer Bac. 


Continued Success,

Hi KFB!

You wrote:

My opinion differs on the progression part(Posprogression is the path mi amigo). HOWEVER, the pos progression must be applied against "An increasing improbability", then set aside, then reinserted again later on. In other words, not inserted with the expectation for a single event to continuously repeat in perpetuum. Many players have unrealistic expectations for "same-event streaks". that's my opinion.

I understand your point and I totally agree about the "increasing improbability" topic.
What I would think is that, generally speaking, a positive progression will concede to the house those (albeit relatively rare) overalternating WL sequences where any win is not properly balanced by the following loss, meaning that in any case in order to win we need some winning clusters to show up.

Since most bac movements, yes, distribute themselves by a slight number of homogeneous clusters than by an overalternating fashion, it could be a point to wait that some (slight improbable) overalternating situations had shown up, then betting toward deviations on either side of the "model". Up to a point, as you correctly sayed.
We continue to support the idea that if an advantage comes out, it must show up by a larger number of winning than losing situations, so the betting amount shouldn't be our main problem to take care of. But in any instance raising the bet where supposedly favourable conditions are coming out doesn't hurt us either. To say the least.

@Alrelax

You're right, yet casinos know by an absolute certainty that more bets are placed greater will be their profits, otherwise they won't get the players such luxurious comps or, even worse, a rebate on their losses.

Most high end casinos know very well the baccarat vulnerability, yet they keep relying on the "human" vulnerability this being proportionally related to the number of hands wagered.
Math is just an additional factor not the cause of it.

Success is not a goal, it's just a by-product

as.

RNG could also be real and random and even a live wheel could be made to cheat. Playing online specially in grey areas is tricky. I play almost daily, 4-8 hours, roulette, baccarat, sicbo(sometimes). In RNG, you play with your own pace while live dealer games, you need to be very attentive as missing even one trial could be dangerous. Actually, it is not about online or offline but about whether you are prepared to play in all circumstances.

KFB,

  No. No. No.

  We never play on ANY of the RNG table games.  Never.

  The few of us who use the online world to play baccarat only use LIVE DEALERS that we can personally verify by testing that we're getting a fair game (as such that it is).

  An RNG baccarat game is no different than playing a video poker machine or electronic Keno machine.  But you obviously know that.

  Live dealers ONLY.

  I hope I haven't misled anyone by thinking I play any of the RNG baccarat tables.

  AD

"...3) More hands are wagered and less precise will be the winning targets as most of the times anything can happen anytime.  ..."

However, if you do not wager, you cannot win.  Of course you cannot lose as well.  A vicious Catch-22 big time.

I have seen people continuously wager for the same triggers and continuously lose and then those same people continuously win.  Likewise I have seen people not wager and talk about each hand while waiting out-would have won continuously.  Then when they attempt to jump in and wager, they can't win anything. 

IMO, of course.

Hi everkerstt. I can see your logic on the convenience.
However, I don't trust online casinos as its my opinion there are too many opportunities for casino to cheat. In other words players are not playing on same RNG. Though I've never played so my opinion may be without merit.

Continued Success,