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[BetJack]

first attempts at long post
, rough thoughts ... and a little help
first
English is not my native language
Excuse me if bad punctuation
Little to say about me.
I'm not gambler and do not like to bet ...
I tried almost all the games
Sports Betting (with someone else predictions), slot games, poker a little bit .. roulette ... and I have not always won
and as open forums of Vic ... I think that randomness can be defeated ...

Now on the subject
I read a lot of things ...
in many of the forums here
and my conclusion

How should look like a workable system for roulette
meaning one that is profitable
Such that to have security to play and know that it will come out a winner

hit and run - There is no point. always there a  next spin ,and it is Special just for you. whether it's after hour, day or week it is there

waiting you.

Stop playing when you have reached a limit accumulated victory or accumulated loss.... will not matter ...you just stretch the game in

time.... is  it  not  all spins are the same.

Too many systems have a limit ... and when it becomes passed. the huge loss cames  which can not be returned
Too many system have negative Progressives....
Most systems have set very high expectations for profit therefore fail

in sports betting  TIPSTERS have ....Return on investment (ROI) best reach 105-120%
I think it is a good limit for seeking profit ...on a  working system

In poker  Players  do not play  every Hand ... All hands played up 12-17% of all hands.
Players play  Hands are that have a certain value.
And in  should not be bet on each spin.
Someone had wrote that you need to find the weak spot of the  roulette and used
In sports betting TIPSTERS choose meetings Average odds 1.8
Someone had wrote that bad bet on roulette is that of who bet more than 18 numbers ...
Eventually I came up with two simple bet

first bet
A Token of Low
A Token of First dozen
A Token of Second dozen

Reverse First bet
A Token of High
A Token of Second dozen
One Token Third dozen

second Pledge
Two tokens of the second dozen (because includes high and low numbers)
A Token of the first dozen

Second reverse bet
Two tokens of the second dozen
One Token Third dozen

And this is the moment in which I need help to all who will be involved in this topic
What is still needed
1.necessary is a   Trigger When to bet on these bets. Certainly should not bet all spins
2. Progression bet .If all may be needed. Preferably a Positive ...
(here I expect Albalaha to intervene decisive .. May he plays a positive progression. so I read )
3. Management of the Bank ...
(For example Something like ... Regression Up and Pull - 2,1,2,3,5)

It is not mandatory to use all bets. We  will win ...  to find a weak spot and the pressure there ...
(successful Trigger for One of the Betting selection)

I read somewhere that to be successful one system do not have to be complicated ..

Thanks in advance to all who will Help   me  ... and google translate

[esoito]

Well done!

Between you and Mr Google this is a useful post written in understandable English. 

I hope others will contribute to this thread.

[greenguy]

Hello Betjack,

In regard to your trigger, I can see the second dozen is represented in all four of your bets.

Therefore, can I suggest your trigger should be based in some way on the 1st & 3rd dozens.

For example, you could play this in short burst cycles, racing the 1st and 3rd dozens off against each other, then betting on the dozen that appears three times first.

So if the 3rd dozen appears three times before the 1st dozen you would play the 'reverse first bet' one time. If you win you restart the game from the beginning, and if you lose you restart the game from the 'second pledge' stage, racing off the 1st and 3rd dozen as before to get your trigger.

A race to three win by the 1st dozen here would trigger a bet on the 'second pledge' bet.


This is just a suggestion of things to try when designing bet triggers.


Good luck!

[BetJack]

Merry Christmas ...
Yesterday I found this image ... in the folder with files for gambling
Someone can guide me
What are the numbers in the first column ... and what are the numbers in the first row
and if you give me an example ... or send me a link ... Thanks in advance

[Sputnik]

I create that image and is about STD/Ecart values.
On the left side column you have the overrepresented events/outcomes and on the column above you have the underrepresented events/outcomes.
This has to do with Marigny de Grillaues work and its about regression towards the mean.

http://betselection.cc/gambling-library/the-key-to-the-final-solution-marigny-de-grilleau/

You find everything in this topic with simulations softwares so you can compare my results with your own results and get statitical significant data - if you want and have time.

Cheers

[BetJack]

what money management would you recommend for this kind of this kind of game

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[Albalaha]

Hmm.
       168 Wins vs 168 Losses. Equilibrium. If we are sure of equilibrium, D'alembert will do great and safe. Actually, it is tough to get an equilibrium in the games with house edge/house fees, even in short run. Lots of MMs will work here, in the given case, from martingale to parlay, labouchere to fibonacci, Oscar's grind or pluscoup to gr8player progression.

[BetJack]

Thanks for your ideas  Albalaha
Can anyone give me real numbers from roulette
or
Zuma numbers , preferably in TXT file

The above test
I did it with numbers from random org
had a row of numbers  "1" and "2"
whether better will be if the row was of numbers from "0 to 36"
and then be converted into "red" and "black" and then to test them
... or Random  is  Random  ?

[BetJack]

Some test ...   from  random  org

what you mean ? are WE confident in the balance ?
if red and black are in balance ...  we are  to get a  some balance of wins / losses