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Something to make you think
« on: April 29, 2020, 07:58:03 am »
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  • Imagine roulette as a new game, in this game a person thinks a number and the purpose is to guess correctly that number.

    The player asks: -"is it 0?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"

    The player continues: -"is it 0?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"

    The player continues: -"is it 0?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"

    Player: -"is it 0?"
    Roulette person: -"no"

    Player: -"is it 0?"
    Roulette person: -"no"

    Player: -"is it 0?"
    Roulette person: -"no"

    Player: -"is it 0?"
    Roulette person: -"no"

    Player: -"is it 0?"
    Roulette person: -"no"

    Player: -"is it 0?"
    Roulette person: -"no"

    and the story goes on...


    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal


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    Re: Something to make you think
    « Reply #1 on: April 29, 2020, 07:59:41 am »
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  • The player decides to change his guessing tactic;


    The player asks: -"is it 0?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 1?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 2?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 3?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 4?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 5?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 6?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 7?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 8?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    The player asks: -"is it 9?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 10?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 11?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 12?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 13?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 14?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 15?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 16?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 17?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    The player asks: -"is it 18?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 19?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 20?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 21?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 22?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 23?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 24?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 25?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 26?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    The player asks: -"is it 27?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 28?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    The player continues: -"is it 29?"
    The roulette person responds: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 30?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 31?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 32?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 33?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 34?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 35?"
    Roulette person: -"no"
    Player: -"is it 36?"
    Roulette person replies: -"YES, YOU'VE FOUND IT!"


    Why such thing doesn't work on roulette?
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Something to make you think
    « Reply #2 on: April 29, 2020, 08:03:15 am »
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  • Hypothetical question;


    If you had such sequence:


    0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0


    would you bet like this:


    36
    32
    18
    11
    14
    15
    28
    34
    16
    32
    31
    19
    19
    12
    20
    12
    17
    24
    14
    30
    16
    24
    33
    34
    6
    17
    29
    23
    13
    8
    25
    22
    18
    33
    28
    13
    24


    Would you? If no, then why when there are sequences as the above you are betting like:
    0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
    Why?
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Something to make you think
    « Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 08:05:32 am »
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  • OK, let me give you a few more examples;


    Let's say we have encountered a sequence of 12 unique numbers (no repeats), at this very point there are expected 12 repeats from those 12 numbers and 12 more unique out of 25 remaining numbers for the next 25 spins.


    What you would select among these 2 options??


    1) The 12 numbers are winning 12 times for the next 25 spins
    2) The 25 numbers are winning 12 times for the next 25 spins


    Option 1 or 2?


    You might argue that there could be repeaters from the 25 numbers, but which of the 25 numbers?
    Those have not come to light yet, let alone to repeat, thus the already shown are closer to become repeaters than those which have not appeared at that point.
    As a matter of fact twice as much closer which means 8 repeats from the 12 numbers to 4 repeats from the 25.


    1) (12 x 25)-(8x36)= 300-288= -12
    2) (25 x 25)-(16x36)=625-576= -49
    Minus 49 is more than 4 times greater than minus 12.
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Something to make you think
    « Reply #4 on: April 29, 2020, 08:08:42 am »
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  • "The best way to predict the future is to create it."


    How to reverse engineer a 37 spins sequence




    From number 0 count 0 pockets in CW direction and you arrive at 0, so the first number of the sequence is number 0.


    1st spin: 0 there is one unique number
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    From number 32 count 32 pockets in CW direction and you have arrived at 12, the second number of the sequence is 12.


    2nd: 12 there are two unique numbers
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    From number 15 count 15 pockets in CW direction and you have arrived at 23, the third number of our sequence is 23.


    3rd: 23 there are three unique
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    From number 19 count 19 pockets in CW direction and you go to 33, the fourth number of our sequence is 33.


    4th: 33 there are four unique
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    From number 4 count 4 pockets in CW direction and you go to 17, the fourth number of our sequence is 17.


    5th: 17 there are five unique
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    From number 21 count 21 pockets in CW direction and you go to 31, the fourth number of our sequence is 31.


    6th: 31 there are six unique
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    From number 2 count 2 pockets in CW direction and you go to 17


    7th: 17 there are six unique and one repeat
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    From number 25 count 25 pockets in CW direction and you go to 28


    8th: 28 there are seven unique and one repeat
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    From number 17 count 17 pockets in CW direction and you go to 14


    9th: 14 there are eight unique and one repeat
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    From number 34 count 34 pockets in CW direction and you go to 2


    10th: 2 there are nine unique and one repeat
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    From number 6 count 6 pockets in CW direction and you go to 8


    11th: 8 there are ten unique and one repeat
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    From number 27 count 27 pockets in CW direction and you go to 32


    12th: 32 there are eleven unique and one repeat
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    From number 13 count 13 pockets in CW direction and you go to 14


    13th: 14 there are eleven unique and two repeats
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    From number 36 count 36 pockets in CW direction and you go to 13


    14th: 13 there are twelve unique and two repeats
    ----------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 11 count 11 pockets in CW direction and you go to 14 (Ken enters here)


    15th: 14 there are twelve unique and three repeats (Ken wins on the 1st bet)
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    From number 30 count 30 pockets in CW direction and you go to 17


    16th: 17 there are twelve unique and four repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    -------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 8 count 8 pockets in CW direction and you go to 20


    17th: 20 there are thirteen unique and four repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 23 count 23 pockets in CW direction and you go to 19


    18th: 19 there are fourteen unique and four repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    -------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 10 count 10 pockets in CW direction and you go to 22


    19th: 22 there are fifteen unique and four repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    --------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 5 count 5 pockets in CW direction and you go to 20


    20th: 20 there are fifteen unique and five repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 24 count 24 pockets in CW direction and you go to 25


    21st: 25 there are sixteen unique and five repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    --------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 16 count 16 pockets in CW direction and you go to 0


    22nd: 0 there are sixteen unique and six repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    -------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 33 count 33 pockets in CW direction and you go to 10


    23rd: 10 there are seventeen unique and six repeats, numbers 14 and 17 with three hits each
    ------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 1 count 1 pocket in CW direction and you go to 20


    24th: 20 there are seventeen unique and seven repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
    ------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 20 count 20 pockets in CW direction and you go to 25


    25th: 25 there are seventeen unique and eight repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
    -------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 14 count 14 pockets in CW direction and you go to 15


    26th: 15 there are eighteen unique and eight repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
    ------------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 31 count 31 pockets in CW direction and you go to 24


    27th: 24 there are nineteen unique and eight repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 9 count 9 pockets in CW direction and you go to 26


    28th: 26 there are twenty unique and eight repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 22 count 22 pockets in CW direction and you go to 36


    29th: 36 there are twenty-one unique and eight repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
    ----------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 18 count 18 pockets in CW direction and you go to 6


    30th: 6 there are twenty-two unique and eight repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    From number 29 count 29 pockets in CW direction and you go to 33


    31st: 33 there are twenty-two unique and nine repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
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    From number 7 count 7 pockets in CW direction and you go to 32


    32nd: 32 there are twenty-two unique and ten repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
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    From number 28 count 28 pockets in CW direction and you go to 1


    33rd: 1 there are twenty-three unique and ten repeats, numbers 14, 17 and 20 with three hits each
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    From number 12 count 12 pockets in CW direction and you go to 17


    34th: 17 there are twenty-three unique and eleven repeats, number 17 has four hits now, numbers 14 and 20 with three hits each
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    From number 35 count 35 pockets in CW direction and you go to 28


    35th: 28 there are twenty-three unique and twelve repeats, number 17 has four hits, numbers 14 and 20 with three hits each
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    From number 3 count 3 pockets in CW direction and you go to 32


    36th: 32 there are twenty-three unique and thirteen repeats, number 17 has four hits, numbers 14, 20 and 32 with three hits each
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    From number 26 count 26 pockets in CW direction and you go to 14


    37th: 14 there are twenty-three unique and fourteen repeats, number 17 and 14 have four hits, numbers 20 and 32 with three hits each
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Something to make you think
    « Reply #5 on: April 29, 2020, 08:11:34 am »
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  • Each and every number is part of a council of 37 members, can cast only 1 vote and that not for itself, the only exception to this is the president which is represented by number 0 (although it failed to be re-elected as we saw previously)  :D
    Numbers squared (1 x 1, 2 x 2, 3 x 3...etc) in distance terms.


    The proportions of LOT (Law Of Thirds) help to verify the underlying cause of what it seems to be randomness at work.
    The sequence was just a sample, let's summarize:


    0
    12
    23
    33
    17
    31
    17
    28
    14
    2
    8
    32
    14
    13
    14
    17
    20
    19
    22
    20
    25
    0
    10
    20
    25
    15
    24
    26
    36
    6
    33
    32
    1
    17
    28
    32
    14


    23 unique, 14 repeats, 14 sleepers


    By doing the same in CCW direction we could see how many would hit again and how many "sleepers" would "woke" during 38th to 74th spins.
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Something to make you think
    « Reply #6 on: April 29, 2020, 08:13:27 am »
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  • Now look at the following sequence and wonder; "what would have made me select such betting sequence?"


    0
    12
    23
    33
    17
    31
    17
    28
    14
    2
    8
    32
    14
    13
    14
    17
    20
    19
    22
    20
    25
    0
    10
    20
    25
    15
    24
    26
    36
    6
    33
    32
    1
    17
    28
    32
    14


    37 different points around the wheel by 37 different distances, all of them with equal probability to occur and yet we could never witness 37 unique within any 37 spins set.-


    Why do you think such fact happens?
    The answer is a matter of overlapping effect, simply impossible to combine 37 different points with 37 different distances without any accidental collisions.


    The point I'm trying to make here is that there may be some aspects which have never crossed your mind.
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal